Ryan Tannehill

"Tin Indian wrote:

Didn't look like Ryan being the focal point was ever the game plan last night, I mean they only called 15 pass plays. It was clear they were riding Henry in that game which is what most thought would happen.
Tannehill did what he was supposed to do and the Titans won.

Next week they will need more from him and we will see if he can deliver. If he goes out and stinks up the place then it may be a different story but thats a future discussion.

Congratulations and thanks to the Titans for a great win!

A nice tag team from the Fins and Titans for ridding the league of the Patriot Boogeyman.

Aside from the fumbled snap and the INT, his game was very good, even with the restricted plan and blanket coverage/pressure.

"The Guy wrote:

. . .the team won in spite of Tannehill.

Your analysis is unsurprisingly predictable and incredibly stupid.

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

On top of that, Belichick paid Tannehill the ultimate compliment. He chose to take away the PA game, not the running game. He knew his defense couldn't stop them with the more conventional defensive approach, he had to have his guys locked into ONE phase, to take the decision out of their play. And it worked...the targets were covered well all game.

yeah took away the vertical pa game which forced the ball underneath. Some call that settling others call it where the ball should go

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Aside from the fumbled snap and the INT, his game was very good, even with the restricted plan and blanket coverage/pressure.

3rd and 3 on the tipped ball at the los he’s gonna convert inside there but he’s got a much easier pivot route working outside. Would have liked to see him go there with it.

I’m sure he id’d zone there pre snap and decided I got an easy conversion there on the hook route

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

As was pointed out earlier, Tom Brady’s first playoff game performance was less than stellar as well

Certainly not stellar, but consider that his passer rating in that game was 70.4, eight points below the league average of 78.5 that year. Tannehill's rating yesterday was 61, 29 points below the league average of 90.4 this year. Brady threw one pick on 52 attempts in that game, for an interception rate of 1.9%. Tannehill threw one pick on 15 attempts yesterday, for an interception rate of 6.7%, which would've been highest in the league in 2019. Consider also that Brady's team had him throw the ball 52 times in his first playoff game, in his first year as a starter in the league, whereas Tannehill's team had him throw it 15 times, in his seventh year as a starter in the league.

So the comparison between "first playoff games" isn't really a fair comparison, nor did the two players even perform similarly on top of that.

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Your analysis is unsurprisingly predictable and incredibly stupid.

And yours is non-existent. No one can critique yours, because you haven't supplied one.

Are you just hiding behind your supposed expertise, or would you like to put yourself out there with something?

Tennessee’s playing it late like I don’t care about your front patriots I’m running it anyways.

probably cause they had the lead. Henry is doing an excellent job of pressing the los before bouncing anything outside also.

8 man front as in within 3 yards of the los even boxes inside to off the tackles should mean shut down the run doesn’t matter they still gain 4 yards. Hat on hat and Henry downhill

Someone explain to me why Lewan was called for illegal formation on the play before the big 3rd down conversion late. Does he have to be lined up even with the guard there?

I thought they were gonna try to call them for not being set a full second which I was gonna blow a gasket if they did cause the pats have lived off of that when they rush to the los to quick snap it forever. And Lewan was set long enough

ahh I see it now he has to be covered up. When the tight end shifted over as part of the play change it left the left tackle uncovered

I guess. Lol. Still kinda wondering about it

"djphinfan wrote:

I don’t think I’m being unfair by saying Ryan didn’t play a good game..

I think I’m being fair to say most qbs in the nfl could of won that game for the titans.

Most definitely. When the opposing QB's passer rating is but 59, and your own running back has over 200 total yards from scrimmage, the onus put on you as quarterback to win the game yourself is very low.

In spite of that, the game was a nail-biter, and that was primarily because Tannehill played so poorly. Even just an average game by Tannehill would've resulted in a comfortable and convincing win.

"djphinfan wrote:

Tom Brady has shown many times that he can reach hi levels of performance in playoff games, this was Ryan’s first game so the comparison isn’t there, Ryan still has to show he can reach a level of performance that will elevate his team..unfortunately he didn’t do that last nite..no big deal, he has another opp next week.

Actually, that is exactly what he did!

You got people arguing as if Ryan is a true duel threat qb in this thread.

he’s not he’s a pocket progression qb who also has the ability to hurt you witb his legs. But they aren’t a primary resort on anything other than zone read in Tennessee’s o or anything miami ever ran with him.

there’s a massive difference. You got other guys making one read and taking off with it or heck no reads at all even. But they aren’t pocket progression QBs.

And yesterday for example you got a qb taking bad sacks in the first half at least or 3 quarters really in deshaun watson cause he can’t read the field. People will tell you that was a bill O’Brien problem no that was a qb who couldn’t read the field one. So he resorted to back yard football and took bad sacks.

"Hoops wrote:

You got people arguing as if Ryan is a true duel threat qb in this thread.

he’s not he’s a pocket progression qb who also has the ability to hurt you witb his legs. But they aren’t a primary resort on anything other than zone read in Tennessee’s o or anything miami ever ran with him.

there’s a massive difference. You got other guys making one read and taking off with it or heck no reads at all even. But they aren’t pocket progression QBs.

And yesterday for example you got a qb taking bad sacks in the first half at least or 3 quarters really in deshaun watson cause he can’t read the field. People will tell you that was a bill O’Brien problem no that was a qb who couldn’t read the field one. So he resorted to back yard football and took bad sacks.

Amen.

"Hoops wrote:

You got people arguing as if Ryan is a true duel threat qb in this thread.

he’s not he’s a pocket progression qb who also has the ability to hurt you witb his legs. But they aren’t a primary resort on anything other than zone read in Tennessee’s o or anything miami ever ran with him.

there’s a massive difference. You got other guys making one read and taking off with it or heck no reads at all even. But they aren’t pocket progression QBs.

And yesterday for example you got a qb taking bad sacks in the first half at least or 3 quarters really in deshaun watson cause he can’t read the field. People will tell you that was a bill O’Brien problem no that was a qb who couldn’t read the field one. So he resorted to back yard football and took bad sacks.

Well if he wants to reach the promise land he better get it real quick

"Hoops wrote:

And yesterday for example you got a qb taking bad sacks in the first half at least or 3 quarters really in deshaun watson cause he can’t read the field. People will tell you that was a bill O’Brien problem no that was a qb who couldn’t read the field one. So he resorted to back yard football and took bad sacks.

A QB that only got the win, 'cuz the other QB went full retard.

"djphinfan wrote:

I don’t think I’m being unfair by saying Ryan didn’t play a good game..

I think I’m being fair to say most qbs in the nfl could of won that game for the titans.

Of course, Mariotta played a better game, the first drive and touchdown didn't mean anything.
RT is on to the second round and we are watching him play for the Titans.
The Dolphins are playing golf, and we got a fourth round pick

"fin13 wrote:

Of course, Mariotta played a better game, the first drive and touchdown didn't mean anything.
RT is on to the second round and we are watching him play for the Titans.
The Dolphins are playing golf, and we got a fourth round pick

Would you take Ryan back for one of those first rounds picks?

WTF your running back puts up 182 yards controls the clock and people are criticizing RT he won the game in the Pats home field and at night to boot.
He did a beautiful job handing off the ball to Henry.
The usual suspects putting RT down, I hope we pick up Mariotta when he gets cut and pass on Tua

"djphinfan wrote:

Would you take Ryan back for one of those first rounds picks?

I wouldn't want him to put up with the football savants like Miko Grimes but maybe we pick up Mariotta so we can flog his disciples

lol

One thing I did lime about the Titans is that they kept running the ball even when they fell behind on the scoreboard. Tannehill had many games in Miami where the OC would abandon the run whenever they were behind on the scoreboard and opposing Ds could just sit back in pass prevent mode.

Just no to Mariota.

"Pauly wrote:

One thing I did lime about the Titans is that they kept running the ball even when they fell behind on the scoreboard. Tannehill had many games in Miami where the OC would abandon the run whenever they were behind on the scoreboard and opposing Ds could just sit back in pass prevent mode.

They were dancing with who brung them. Henry was perhaps the best running back in the league this year, and Tannehill had the fewest pass attempts per game in the league as a starter. No reason to change that formula when the margin on the scoreboard was never such that they had to pass.

I'm sure you love Josh Allen too

"The Guy wrote:

Certainly not stellar, but consider that his passer rating in that game was 70.4, eight points below the league average of 78.5 that year. Tannehill's rating yesterday was 61, 29 points below the league average of 90.4 this year. Brady threw one pick on 52 attempts in that game, for an interception rate of 1.9%. Tannehill threw one pick on 15 attempts yesterday, for an interception rate of 6.7%, which would've been highest in the league in 2019. Consider also that Brady's team had him throw the ball 52 times in his first playoff game, in his first year as a starter in the league, whereas Tannehill's team had him throw it 15 times, in his seventh year as a starter in the league.

So the comparison between "first playoff games" isn't really a fair comparison, nor did the two players even perform similarly on top of that.

The comparison is more than fair. Passer rating is passer rating and the league average is irrelevant.

"djphinfan wrote:

Would you take Ryan back for one of those first rounds picks?

In a heartbeat!!!!!!!!