Oklahoma’s No. 1, Bama No. 2 in AP poll

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Do you mean Ohio St if they win out should not have a shot at the national title game just because of its recent history? Of course it can't happen unless everyone loses 2 games.

They need to change the BCS because there is a obvious flaw in the system. but you can't punish a team for what has happened in the past. Its not like Ohio St earned it last year it just so happened Oklahoma and WVU decided to choke and let Ohio St fall in.

I mean not ranking a team high who will just let them down, and make them (the media/voters) look dumb.

"Stitches wrote:

I mean not ranking a team high who will just let them down, and make them (the media/voters) look dumb.

Ohh ok gotcha :up:

personally, I think they should wait till week four or five before they issue the first one.

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Do you mean Ohio St if they win out should not have a shot at the national title game just because of its recent history? Of course it can't happen unless everyone loses 2 games.

They need to change the BCS because there is a obvious flaw in the system. but you can't punish a team for what has happened in the past. Its not like Ohio St earned it last year it just so happened Oklahoma and WVU decided to choke and let Ohio St fall in.

BIG HUGE CRAZY flaw. Human subjectivity playing too big of a role in the final picture. Polls are great, but playoffs mitigate the margin of error in human opinions, to which there are too many for this system to every work.

"cnc66 wrote:

personally, I think they should wait till week four or five before they issue the first one.

Agreed. I've said in the past I don't think one should come out until sometime in October.

"sking29 wrote:

Well I don't think anyone can deny that Saban is a great college coach. We may not like it but its true.

Nick Saban is a great coach, period, no matter what level. I'm convinced that had he stayed in the NFL, he would have built the Dolphins into a dynasty and been one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. I don't like him, but I have to give credit where credit is due. The man knows how to coach football.

"KB21 wrote:

Nick Saban is a great coach, period, no matter what level. I'm convinced that had he stayed in the NFL, he would have built the Dolphins into a dynasty and been one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. I don't like him, but I have to give credit where credit is due. The man knows how to coach football.

You are 100% correct, Nick Saban is a great coach. I wish him well at Alabama and he has already turned that program around. They just crushed a #3 team in Georgia.:up:

I feel confident that if the Buckeyes didn't royally stink it up every time they get a big time prime time game (06 against Florida, 07 to Texas, 07 against LSU, 08 against USC) that they would garner more respect in the polls. Fortunately though the AP realizes that Ohio State is a lot of hype, the Big 10 is a weak conference, and that there's no point in giving Ohio State a shot at anything signifigant because they'll just **** it up. Ohio State is like that ex-girlfriend you have who keeps wanting to hook back up. Eventually you'll forget the messed up way she treated you the last time you were together and you'll give her another shot. And then, damn it all, you just get burned again. The BCS wont make that mistake 3 years in a row.

Oh, and on a side note
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL TIDE!

**** saban.

"KB21 wrote:

Nick Saban is a great coach, period, no matter what level. I'm convinced that had he stayed in the NFL, he would have built the Dolphins into a dynasty and been one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. I don't like him, but I have to give credit where credit is due. The man knows how to coach football.

I don't know I quite agree with that. Nick Saban has always been a good college coach because he can go out and he can recruit top talent. He had what some ranked the #1 recruit class this year and is starting 15 sophmores and freshmen. Those are all his recruits. When he had Mike Shula's recruits last season he went 6-6. With subpar talent he doesn't thrive. In the NFL he wasn't able to go out and make sure he had top talent at every position because there are provisions to make sure that talent is equally spread around the league. I think he could have eventually turned the Dolphins into a playoff contender if he would have given up GM responsibilities. But I don't think we would be a dynasty. It's very hard to be a dynasty in today's NFL. I hate them but what the Patriots have done is damned impressive.

"KB21 wrote:

Nick Saban is a great coach, period, no matter what level. I'm convinced that had he stayed in the NFL, he would have built the Dolphins into a dynasty and been one of the top 2-3 coaches in the league. I don't like him, but I have to give credit where credit is due. The man knows how to coach football.

I disagree. Being a coach in the NFL and collegiate ranks are two different things. Its entirely possible to be great at one and poor at the other. And while I respect his collegiate coaching ability, I still think hes a scumbag for what he did here. And not that I wish badly for the kids ther, butI hope he loses every saturday, its unfortunate that it wont happen to often most likely.

"finswin56 wrote:

Dude, kill it with the victim complex, and look at where you were freaking ranked before the season even started. If the media hated OSU, you wouldn't have been that high to begin with. You dropped that far because you were embarrassed at USC, plain and simple.

So is losing at home to a putrid Ole Miss team :up:

"Trowa wrote:

I feel confident that if the Buckeyes didn't royally stink it up every time they get a big time prime time game (06 against Florida, 07 to Texas, 07 against LSU, 08 against USC) that they would garner more respect in the polls. Fortunately though the AP realizes that Ohio State is a lot of hype, the Big 10 is a weak conference, and that there's no point in giving Ohio State a shot at anything signifigant because they'll just **** it up. Ohio State is like that ex-girlfriend you have who keeps wanting to hook back up. Eventually you'll forget the messed up way she treated you the last time you were together and you'll give her another shot. And then, damn it all, you just get burned again. The BCS wont make that mistake 3 years in a row.

Oh, and on a side note
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL TIDE!

**** saban.

Umm we were 1 TE catch away from beating Texas.... If Ohio St kills Wisconsin and shuts down Penn St to like 6 points you cannot leave them out based on previous years. Hell why even include Oklahoma? They get beat every time they get a BCS bid. Can't say anything bad about USC because they either play in LA every year or they go to the National title game.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

So is losing at home to a putrid Ole Miss team :up:

And yet I don't see anyone whining about Florida's ranking. :up: Nice try though.

has anyone seen utah play yet? oregon state plays them tonight i was hoping maybe someone knows a little about them

"King Felix wrote:

has anyone seen utah play yet? oregon state plays them tonight i was hoping maybe someone knows a little about them

I watched alittle bit of their game against Michigan. They're pretty good. Should be a good game.

"texanphinatic wrote:

I disagree. Being a coach in the NFL and collegiate ranks are two different things. Its entirely possible to be great at one and poor at the other. And while I respect his collegiate coaching ability, I still think hes a scumbag for what he did here. And not that I wish badly for the kids ther, butI hope he loses every saturday, its unfortunate that it wont happen to often most likely.

And what is that?

Telling reporters he wasn't leaving in the hope that they would stop bringing up the Alabama job and detracting from the season at hand? Or coaching through the season and only leaving after getting the ok from Huizenga?

I mean, what the **** did you want him to do (outside of honoring the whole contract)? Did you want him to say he was leaving as soon as the season ended, and keep coaching until the end of the season? Or did you want him to leave mid-season like Petrino?

I'm sorry, but he went about it pretty much as good as he could IMO, and if his heart wasn't in it here, I wouldn't want him to continue to coaching the team just because his contract said he was supposed to.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

So is losing at home to a putrid Ole Miss team :up:

What are you talking about? Seriously, I don't get it.
Are you just taking satisfaction that UF was upset? Okay, good for you :up:
However, you don't see Gator fans whining about Media hate because they fell like a lead balloon in the polls. We got what we deserved.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

So is losing at home to a putrid Ole Miss team :up:

You obviously don't watch much football other than the big 10. Ole Miss is a good ball team and are very close to being undefeated. They have made alot of improvments since last year

"Skeet84 wrote:

You obviously don't watch much football other than the big 10. Ole Miss is a good ball team and are very close to being undefeated. They have made alot of improvments since last year

Snead is no slouch, he should be real good next year.

"Stitches wrote:

Snead is no slouch, he should be real good next year.

Yeah he is not. He is going to be a great qb in the sec. He has some talent around him and Ole Miss has a good coach now

Old Miss can hang with and probaly beat Ohio St.
(The SEC enjoys slapping Ohio St. around yearly)
Roll Tide

"texanphinatic wrote:

I disagree. Being a coach in the NFL and collegiate ranks are two different things. Its entirely possible to be great at one and poor at the other. And while I respect his collegiate coaching ability, I still think hes a scumbag for what he did here. And not that I wish badly for the kids ther, butI hope he loses every saturday, its unfortunate that it wont happen to often most likely.

I do think he would have been successful if he had stayed but I agree he is a scumbag for the way he left. He actively pursued the job while with the Dolphins and then didn't just deny it but belittled anybody who even brought it up. He was a real jerk about it, questioning their intelligence, etc. Come to think of it that seems to be how he treated everybody who worked for the Dolphins as well. Several stories came out about how people who worked at Dolphin camp celebrated when he left. Even one of our members back at FH who worked there confirmed how he treated everybody there. I still think he is a great coach but I don't think he's a great person.

"Stitches wrote:

Snead is no slouch, he should be real good next year.

Definitely no slouch.He would have been a Gator if Tebow was not signed.

SEC teams are learning how to defend the very predictable Gator offense and they did their homework and prepared very well.

It doesnt mean they are more talented .Just better prepared .That falls on the florida coaches shoulders.If they dont get that straightened out they may have to play the Buckeyes in the the Outhouse Bowl.:pointlol:

"finswin56 wrote:

What are you talking about? Seriously, I don't get it.
Are you just taking satisfaction that UF was upset? Okay, good for you :up:
However, you don't see Gator fans whining about Media hate because they fell like a lead balloon in the polls. We got what we deserved.

I'm not whining. We lost to the then number 1 team doesn't mean much this early in the year.

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

I'm not whining. We lost to the then number 1 team doesn't mean much this early in the year.

I know you're not bro :hi5: