Offensive Line: One Trick Pony?

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PandarillaPandarillaforum_veteranOP
Aug 10, 2010, 09:44 PM

Decided to post this after reading tweet from Mike Berardino that even Austin friggin' Spitler had a sack today. The kid loses 15 lbs. from being sick and still our O-line can't stop him. He's just the hair that broke the camel's back after that 10 sack performance in 30 play scrimmage the other day. I know we're supposed to "feed the wolf". It just seems our O-line is getting fed to them right now.

BTW-they suck!

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 09:46 PM

Would rather all this happen in the pre-season then in the regular season/playoffs/super bowl

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PandarillaPandarillaforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 09:52 PM

Yeah, I guess I'm just frustrated by trying to decipher the tweets. I'll have to reserve judgement until I see how they respond against Tampa.

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Aug 10, 2010, 09:58 PM

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brandon27brandon27subscriber
Aug 10, 2010, 10:00 PM

I do get the feeling of alot of mixed messages/meanings right now. You hear about a sub par player, beating a starter on a drill. Automatically you think, wow! this guy is having a great TC! Then there's the flipside... oh... but that means our starter must be struggling if that guy beat him. :lol:

I can't wait for Saturday when we get to see these guys in action, against another team. We're going to learn alot about alot of these players then.


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KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 10:06 PM

Too early to think the sky is falling IMO. Coach is moving guys in and out, evaluating different groups. I don't look for anything to really change in the first preseason game as they will be getting a feel for being in a game. Still taking looks at different personnel. I think they will be fine. Sparano is not worried about achievement as a group really yet. If the line is not solidified and is playing poorly by the third preseason game then we should have concerns.

Vengeful OdinVengeful Odinforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 10:22 PM

The interior of the offensive line was going to be in flux. Smiley was traded, Grove injured, and Thomas didn't really live up to fan hype. It seems like the coaching staff is almost determined to forge two complete starting units of offensive linemen.

With all the changes, there's bound to be miscommunication that leads to sacks and negative plays. It takes time for an offensive line to gel. Give them a chance to iron out the kinks before we start hitting the panic button.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 10:24 PM

A lot of pass blocking is communication. The unfortunate part about the line is that it is in its third year and 3/5ths of the line might be replaced.

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Aug 10, 2010, 10:26 PM

The Defense is just that good pandarilla, at least it is right now.

When a D blitzes from all angles, with anyone liable to blitz, the Oline is sort of outmanned to begin with, Sparano is really pushing those guys.

NaboCaneNaboCaneNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 10:41 PM

I suspect it's probably that Nolan's scheme is superior in nature to the OL scheme, right from inception.

The OL will catch up. Hopefully.

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Aug 11, 2010, 12:14 AM

Nolans pissing our offensive line off so that when they get into a real game they crush the guys that try to get near Henne.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 12:20 AM

"Pandarilla wrote:

Yeah, I guess I'm just frustrated by trying to decipher the tweets. I'll have to reserve judgement until I see how they respond against Tampa.

Individual camp reports are just that, individual reports. They're notable in the context of chronicling what happens that particular day in camp, and absolutely terrible for trying to piece together an overall picture of where the team is at. Especially considering how early in August it is.

Worry if we go 0-2 again in the regular season.

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GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Aug 11, 2010, 12:28 AM

"Slowmotion wrote:

If there's a definition for overreaction, this thread has refined it.

Tis' true. It the season were a movie, we'd be at the part where they tell everyone to silence their cell phones. Relax people.

adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 12:30 AM

"Killerphins wrote:

Too early to think the sky is falling IMO. Coach is moving guys in and out, evaluating different groups. I don't look for anything to really change in the first preseason game as they will be getting a feel for being in a game. Still taking looks at different personnel. I think they will be fine. Sparano is not worried about achievement as a group really yet. If the line is not solidified and is playing poorly by the third preseason game then we should have concerns.

yeah thats the key by the second preseason game we should be shpowing some improvement and by the 3rd preseason game we better be 75% of the way to where we have to be. Too early to panic yet. Its all about experimenting right now with different pairings



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xphinfanxxphinfanxforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 12:38 AM

The first two preseason games will be frustrating to just hang in there.

That's why they play the games!:yes:

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Aug 11, 2010, 12:41 AM

"xphinfanx wrote:

The first two preseason games will be frustrating to just hang in there.

Hey, Marcus Stroud and John Henderson are no longer on the Jags. NOTHING was more frustrating then watching our offense line try to block those two in the opening series. When they knew they only had to play 8 plays or so, those guys played their hearts out. By far the most frustrating football memory I will ever have.

PandarillaPandarillaforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 02:37 AM

OmarKelly The afternoon practice featured 9 sacks: Dansby got 3, Anderson, Starks, McDaniel, Wake, Amaya and Grant all got one. Time to stop shuffling?

OmarKelly Correction: The defense had 10 sacks. We overlooked Chris McCoy getting one. Oversight. But this is starting to worry me a bit.

All I'm sayin' is that the golf cart needs to be parked by the O-line for a while.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 02:38 AM

"Pandarilla wrote:

All I'm sayin' is that the golf cart needs to be parked by the O-line for a while.

They'll settle down once Sparano stops playing mad scientist with the lineup.

Constantly rotating guards and centers and moving guys from position to position does little for line cohesion and consistency.

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Lt DanLt Danforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 03:02 AM

"Pandarilla wrote:

Decided to post this after reading tweet from Mike Berardino that even Austin friggin' Spitler had a sack today. The kid loses 15 lbs. from being sick and still our O-line can't stop him. He's just the hair that broke the camel's back after that 10 sack performance in 30 play scrimmage the other day. I know we're supposed to "feed the wolf". It just seems our O-line is getting fed to them right now.

BTW-they suck!

it's the "straw" that broke the camels back not hair. That being said...you are wrong

Ohio FanaticOhio Fanaticsubscriber
Aug 11, 2010, 06:13 AM

Think of it this way Panda, Nolan's blitzing scheme will only help our offensive line prepare for teams like Jets this year. No problem putting up with struggles now if it tranlates to increased odds of beating those SOBs.

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Aug 11, 2010, 09:10 AM

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! OMG WTF are we gonna do? Does staples sell a version of the "Easy Button" that says "Panic Button"? Way to soon to be pressing it.

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the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Aug 11, 2010, 09:36 AM

not to worry:
got the talent & coaching
the Orca will step up game time
would not be surprised to see
a modified platoon system in the making

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HULKFishHULKFishforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 09:52 AM

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

Think of it this way Panda, Nolan's blitzing scheme will only help our offensive line prepare for teams like Jets this year. No problem putting up with struggles now if it tranlates to increased odds of beating those SOBs.

Exactly... If we here the same BS the first week of September, then I'll be worried! Actually if they don't have a good showing in that game 3 of the preseason, then I'll worry. Let us put this in perspective though, we're barely over a week into this thing!

miamironmiamironforum_veteran
Aug 11, 2010, 10:39 AM

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Nolans pissing our offensive line off so that when they get into a real game they crush the guys that try to get near Henne.

:pity:

CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
Aug 11, 2010, 10:46 AM

We have always heard about how important it is for the OL to gell.

That takes time .Right now we are trying to find out who should start and who should backup at what position.

By the third preseason game we should know.

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