Miami Dolphins QB John Beck vows to improve

I don't like the title much, because that should go without saying. I didn't see where Beck said that, so it probably just a title. It does emphasize that Beck is well aware and working hard.

Nice to hear from John. Of course, I always hear these hopeful articles about our young guys at this time of year.Sometimes it pans out, and sometimes, well...

I hope Johnny has a great year.

I still think he could become a poor man's Peyton Manning eventually (not this year) averaging 28-35 TDs, 10-12 INTS and passer ratings between 85-95.

Bpk

Bpk

"Bpk wrote:

Nice to hear from John. Of course, I always hear these hopeful articles about our young guys at this time of year.Sometimes it pans out, and sometimes, well...

I hope Johnny has a great year.

I still think he could become a poor man's Peyton Manning eventually (not this year) averaging 28-35 TDs, 10-12 INTS and passer ratings between 85-95.

Bpk

Bpk

What? A Poor Man's Peyton Manning? Uh...I guess there is a lot of latitude with the words "Poor Man". Last year, he was a poor man's (and a very poor man's at that) Jay Fiedler. Hopefully he can become a poor man's Drew Brees, and even that may be asking alot.

There have been some here that said the exact same thing.. he was trying to hard. I think(read hope) that getting the proper amount of reps with the first team will settle the guy down and allow his talents to take over.. as opposed to his forcing things unaturally.

No way this was happening to me," Beck said. "I pride myself on ball security, on being smart, not thinking too much, not rushing but being patient. I found myself rushing, trying too hard."

"Bpk wrote:

Nice to hear from John. Of course, I always hear these hopeful articles about our young guys at this time of year.Sometimes it pans out, and sometimes, well...

I hope Johnny has a great year.

I still think he could become a poor man's Peyton Manning eventually (not this year) averaging 28-35 TDs, 10-12 INTS and passer ratings between 85-95.

Bpk

Bpk

:eek:

Dude, you can't be serious, can you?

All I know is Beck better evolve a little faster. You don't want him coming into his own at 30+. He's 27 right now already, isn't he?

"124 wrote:

:eek:

Dude, you can't be serious, can you?

All I know is Beck better evolve a little faster. You don't want him coming into his own at 30+. He's 27 right now already, isn't he?

ever heard of a guy namrd rich gannon? heck, beck has 7-8 more years left.

lol I would take a good qb thats 30 then what we have been through last few years. Even if becks career is short but a good one I would take that any day. There is always time develop another qb then.

"MelbournePhin wrote:

ever heard of a guy namrd rich gannon? heck, beck has 7-8 more years left.

Beck (more than likely) is going to be akin to Damon Huard. He can come in to games and win some games for you. And that is a good thing to have. Hopefully, he'll be happy being a backup and not want to leave every year to try to start some where.

And of course, there is a (tiny, small, minuscule) chance that I could be wrong and Beck will be a serviceable starter. And if so, what a bargain. From a guy who couldn't take a clean snap to a serviceable starter. If that happens, maybe the football gods are starting to smile on Miami.

What I see playing out though is that Henne is eventually (by next year, if not sooner) taking over the starting job and McCown and Beck fighting for one roster spot. The key will be getting one of those guys to committing to being a backup, and being happy in that role. Thats a tough sell, but BP did it with Hostetler.

I would be happy if he just had the sort of year Ferrotte had for us, 15 td's, 10 int's or something along those lines, I think he can do that at least, he just needs the chance to play.

Our offense statistically improved last season (believe it or not..:wink2:) in terms of points per game, now with Ricky and a healthy Ronnie and Wolford maybe John Beck can keep the trend going upwards.

I'm beginning to like our personnel on offense, we do have some weapons on that side of the ball for a change, "if" Ted Ginn improves and Ricky shakes off the time off, we could surprise teams this year.

"SuncoastFinsFan wrote:

Beck (more than likely) is going to be akin to Damon Huard. He can come in to games and win some games for you. And that is a good thing to have. Hopefully, he'll be happy being a backup and not want to leave every year to try to start some where.

And of course, there is a (tiny, small, minuscule) chance that I could be wrong and Beck will be a serviceable starter. And if so, what a bargain. From a guy who couldn't take a clean snap to a serviceable starter. If that happens, maybe the football gods are starting to smile on Miami.

What I see playing out though is that Henne is eventually (by next year, if not sooner) taking over the starting job and McCown and Beck fighting for one roster spot. The key will be getting one of those guys to committing to being a backup, and being happy in that role. Thats a tough sell, but BP did it with Hostetler.

This topic has been debated ad nauseum, so I won't go into all the reasons you're off base here, but suffice it to say, you are. I'll let the season play out and JB's play prove you wrong.

I have often compared Beck to Bob Griese and the later has seemed to take special interest in Beck.

Hopefully he turns out to be as good

as I recall, ol four eyes played some good ball here and there..

they just interruped TV for an extreme thunderstorm warning and the nearest one is across the state in Ft. Myers. They didn't do this yesterday until 3pm, today might get interesting.

"cnc66 wrote:

as I recall, ol four eyes played some good ball here and there..

they just interruped TV for an extreme thunderstorm warning and the nearest one is across the state in Ft. Myers. They didn't do this yesterday until 3pm, today might get interesting.

Try waking up to Tornado Sirens at 5:00 AM on Mothers Day. I'd appreciate any warning that something bad is going to happen - even if we have to wait until the next day:yes:

I keep looking at Beck and seeing some of the things we saw with the early Griese. His first season was a bit trying at moments, but nowhere near as much as Beck's. Now, Beck did not have an offensive line (except in the fact that the O Line was by character offensive), nor a running game, and no one to speak of to throw to. Other than that, he was in what was considered the "offensive unit." Given some improvement, which seems to be soon afoot, I want to see how the young man works this year. I hope we can groom Henne and trade him for a draft pick to select another young quarterback to groom in a couple of years.

I see Phil Simms big time when i look at John Beck, I dont know if some of you realize this or not but John Beck has special talent when throwing a football, now hes got to work on his body and control, but when he does and he will IMO, YOU ALL WILL BE WITNESS TO HOW BEAUTIFUL HE THROWS A FOOTBALL. EFFORTLESS, QUICK SLINGER OF THE ROCK.

"djphinfan wrote:

I see Phil Simms big time when i look at John Beck, I dont know if some of you realize this or not but John Beck has special talent when throwing a football, now hes got to work on his body and control, but when he does and he will IMO, YOU ALL WILL BE WITNESS TO HOW BEAUTIFUL HE THROWS A FOOTBALL. EFFORTLESS, QUICK SLINGER OF THE ROCK.

Sorry, he is nothing like Phil Simms.

As long as Beck can take the snaps cleanly this year, he'll have a great year.:shifty:

"cnc66 wrote:

as I recall, ol four eyes played some good ball here and there..

they just interruped TV for an extreme thunderstorm warning and the nearest one is across the state in Ft. Myers. They didn't do this yesterday until 3pm, today might get interesting.

Marty, remember they nick named BG Mr. Peabody after he was fitted with the peeps? :lol:

"Themole wrote:

Marty, remember they nick named BG Mr. Peabody after he was fitted with the peeps? :lol:

indeed I do.

"cnc66 wrote:

as I recall, ol four eyes played some good ball here and there..

they just interruped TV for an extreme thunderstorm warning and the nearest one is across the state in Ft. Myers. They didn't do this yesterday until 3pm, today might get interesting.

That storm is pretty bad here in Springs as well, whereabouts in Ft. Myers you live Marty? I grew up there.

EDIT: My bad, read your post wrong. Looks like you're on the east coast.

"StLouisFinFan wrote:

This topic has been debated ad nauseum, so I won't go into all the reasons you're off base here, but suffice it to say, you are. I'll let the season play out and JB's play prove you wrong.

Nothing wrong with having faith, StLFF. But you have to admit that is what you have...faith. There is no reason (much less, "all the reasons" I am off base) for you to think the way you do. Nothing we have seen from JB suggests he will be a good QB.

And you are correct, I could be wrong. No wants me to be wrong more than me. But, more than likely, I'll be right. But don't worry. I won't rub it in. I'll just say, "we already knew, now lets move forward".

"Straz wrote:

As long as Beck can take the snaps cleanly this year, he'll have a great year.:shifty:

LOL..yeah, right. That was a big problem for him.

"SuncoastFinsFan wrote:

Nothing wrong with having faith, StLFF. But you have to admit that is what you have...faith. There is no reason (much less, "all the reasons" I am off base) for you to think the way you do. Nothing we have seen from JB suggests he will be a good QB.

And you are correct, I could be wrong. No wants me to be wrong more than me. But, more than likely, I'll be right. But don't worry. I won't rub it in. I'll just say, "we already knew, now lets move forward".

I disagree. Sure he had a lot of fumbles last year as a rookie. But I think he did show us that he has all the tools to succeed in this league, from the work ethic to him managing games. He showed us that when asked to not lose the game for us, he can accomplish that given assignment. Remember all the things he did was behind a sub-par offensive line, no main weapon, guys picked up off the waiver wire and inserted into the starting lineup by default and a piss poor defense. And to add to that terrible list, NO receivers. He had Ginn but he was still getting adjusted to this league and Marty "Slip-n-slide" Booker was well, slipping and sliding as well as dropping balls.

The stats may not show it but I think he handled it well after being thrown into the wolves by Cameron.

"SuncoastFinsFan wrote:

Nothing we have seen from JB suggests he will be a good QB.

Did you miss his whole college career then? Good preseason? Flashes of a good QB in the garbage time of Cincy?

Do not forget, Beck received zero regular season snaps, ZERO, until about a week or two before he started. yes Cameron was a bumbling idiot, and when Trent Green went down, him or Mueller or both, refused to grab a 3rd QB. So there were only two QBs on the roster, and one must run the scout team apparently. Then they finally get a 3rd qb, John takes a couple 2nd team snaps, then Cameron, desperate for a spark, a safety valve, anything, inserted him into the lineup as a starter. Then when that didn't work for 3 weeks yanked him back out.

Cameron is the idiot and is at fault. Beck was not set up to succeed. So essentially it's like taking a QB in the draft, giving him no preseason no snaps no games then the week before opening day, saying, "you're our starter." Think he'll look good?

It still boggles my mind that people want to judge Beck on last year. 4 games on one of the worst teams in the history of the NFL, after not being able to practivce with the starters for over half the season, and people are writing him off...lol. Whatever.