Merged:More Rumors from Arizona/Boldin

"texanphinatic wrote:

As for all this "there will be nobody better at 25, 44 or anywhere" crap, tell me where, exactly, Boldin was drafted. Was he the first overall pick? Umm, no. There could be a player much better at any of those spots. There may not be. We dont know.

Or near entire drafts can be flame outs. IE: Dolphins drafts from 2000-2003.

I'd give up our first round pick (being it's rather late) but there's no way I'd give up our first and third for Boldin.

Put me in the "I would love Boldin, but that is too much to give up" class.

"CrunchTime wrote:

Speilman may have given up that but this regime is much more austere and conservative.

In the past when they have given up draft picks for players they used a 4th for two starters and a 6th for Ferguson .Thats good value and I dont expect they will be giving up two first day picks for one player.

Those two picks represents two starters on a team that still needs quantity over quality .

Therefore I am not inclined to believe this rumor.

And with the 6th round pick we sent to Dallas for Ferguson they selected Eric Walden who we picked up on waivers and who is a standout on our special teams.:up:

"texanphinatic wrote:

Not a huge fan of Boldin. Hes turning out to be a bit primadonnery for me. He took a huge hit and hasnt really seemed the same (see Chambers, Chris for something similar), and hes always struggled against top CBs.

When hasn't he been the same since? His first game back and he scored 2 touchdowns???http://www.nfl.com/players/anquanboldin/gamelogs?id=BOL283010

I guess me and you see things differently.

"texanphinatic wrote:

As for all this "there will be nobody better at 25, 44 or anywhere" crap, tell me where, exactly, Boldin was drafted. Was he the first overall pick? Umm, no. There could be a player much better at any of those spots. There may not be. We dont know.

I'd give up my left nut to get this guy. Giving up a late first round draft choice is no big deal IMO. That first round draft choice is going to command alot of money for being an unproven player. Why not pay a guy who has proven that he can be a stud at WR?

"salty wrote:

When hasn't he been the same since? His first game back and he scored 2 touchdowns???http://www.nfl.com/players/anquanboldin/gamelogs?id=BOL283010

I guess me and you see things differently.

in my opinion, setting all other issues aside, he is one of the toughest players in a long time.. old school tough. He has my GREAT respect.

"cnc66 wrote:

in my opinion, setting all other issues aside, he is one of the toughest players in a long time.. old school tough. He has my GREAT respect.

that's the thing I love about AQ. There's maybe one other guy in the league who couldve come back from that hit he took, and to come back and not be hesitent to take another hit is what makes it even more impressive IMO.
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If this happens... You can notch up a intimidation point to us! We'd put a little fear in the hearts of the AFC East if we get Boldin. Although that is a high price I'd pay it if he passes a good physical!

I am not for it, but would not set my jerseys on fire if it did. To me it would be the preverbal two edge sword, we get a great WR, and on the other hand we lost the chance to draft 2 future players. I would give up a 2nd for him NP, better yet a 3rd.

New England has Moss. Buffalo now has Owens. We need Boldin to compete with these guys as game changers.

id give up the high 2nd... never the first, and NEVER a first and a 3rd, hell to the no

"Firesole wrote:

I'd give up my left nut to get this guy. Giving up a late first round draft choice is no big deal IMO. That first round draft choice is going to command alot of money for being an unproven player. Why not pay a guy who has proven that he can be a stud at WR?

Plus, just how close are we to winning the Super Bowl. Everyone always wants to be safe and not say it, but we showed last year that all that goes out the window with this group of coaches and players. We won our division, and competed with the best pretty well last year. We have the OL. We have the QB. We have the RB's. We have the TE. WR is the only thing left on the Offensive side of the ball that could downgrade us as a serious contender. I'd much rather go with the young proven player in this case and take Boldin. We draft a CB 2a and a LB 2b, NT round 3 or something along those lines and watch out folks!

Don't tell me we can't win the Super Bowl because after what I saw last year this team can win it all. We aren't that far away. It's my hope that we don't ignore the few need spots that we have that could keep us from advancing farther this year.

I'd give them a 2nd and a 4th or a 1st and 5th.

"Cool Calm Mike wrote:

New England has Moss. Buffalo now has Owens. We need Boldin to compete with these guys as game changers.

How many SB winning teams have they each been on?

If you think we need to compete with these two, then we need defensive players.

Good point... Two thumpers back in the middle of the field should remedy that! I hope they both get a shot or two in on TO and Moss! Wilson and Bell that is...

I highly doubt it. No way Parcells & co. give up that much. That would go against everything they've been doing. We have a lot of other holes to fill on this team and giving up a 1st and a 3rd would make doing that impossible and it would cripple our future. Rick Spielman and Pornstache are not here anymore, thank God! ;)

I would love Boldin in a Fin Uniform, but a 1st and 3rd is alot. Thankyou Jerry Jones!

Guys my cousin lives in Az and heard the rumor as well. He is stocked and is a huge Fin Fan. Awesome Thread.

eh, no thanks for what it's going to take in picks and dollars (he wants the 8-9-10 million dollar a year range, he feels slighted by how much Fitz is making). He is 29 years old, look at Torry Holt who is about to get cut at 32 and can be had for no picks.. we're building through youth, so when Henne is ready to take over, Boldin will be 30, 31 years old?

It's a sexy addition, but think of it this way: last year the 25th pick of the draft got a contract that totaled $9.725 million for the entire duration, with 6.75 guaranteed.

"TheAnswer385 wrote:

I see the Eagles offering the house for him...I think that's who they have been waiting on.

When have the Eagles ever given up the house for a player? They usually fleece other teams, not the other way around.

They gave us AJ Feeley for a 2nd rounder and now he is back on their team.

Last year they were in negotiations with Arizona for Boldin. They offered Lito Sheppard and a pick and Arizona wanted more and they said no thanks.

They could have signed Houshmandzadeh but didnt want to pay him. They tried to sign Randy Moss but he resigned with the Pats. They made an offer for Roy Williams but Detroit wanted more.

Philly will trade for him if the price is right, but they definately wont offer the house. Andy Reid loves his draft picks.

"Cool Calm Mike wrote:

New England has Moss. Buffalo now has Owens. We need Boldin to compete with these guys as game changers.

Can Boldin play CB? :tongue2:

I would really like to see him here, but the value from draft picks our FO gets i think a first and third would be too steep a price to pay.

Yes we wasted many draft picks on guys who didn't work out in past years, but so far the new FO is 1/1 in drafting so far.

I'm certain they will find quality starters for us with this draft as well.

Oh well, whatever they do, i guess i'd support it, they have yet to prove me wrong since they got here, outside of a couple of minor mistakes (ie: wilford, Mccown).

What i find even more hard to believe is that they would give up a 1st and 3rd for a star WR. I have a hard time believing that right now, since they hold so much value in picks and they know what they can do with picks. They usually seem very smart with how they handle picks, they would have to think the world of Anquan to give up that ransom for him.

Prescedence might take place here, the last top reciever trade got a first and 6th? Roy williams to Dallas? I have a hard time believing the new top reciever potential trade would be that much more in terms of value.

"Finascious D wrote:

How many SB winning teams have they each been on?

If you think we need to compete with these two, then we need defensive players.

:shifty:

"JDelenne wrote:

I think a First and a Third is a lot for Boldin. but i'd love to have him. He's from South Florida anyways. Come on home Boldin!

also a fun fact. Boldin and Eric Green Played against each other 5 times in high school, played together in Arizona and possibly again in Miami.

Funny How Q played at Pahokee and Green was born in Pahokee but played for Clewiston.