Is the pofo closed?

It's closed. There is an announcement.

I haven't been in months and tuned out quite a while ago. Worst time suck ever

The utter lack of civility, the venom, and all the other aspects of POFO were leaching into the relationships on the sports boards. Those are why we exist.

And not to put too fine a point on it but we could not find a MOD who would stay in that forum.

"Ohiophinphan wrote:

The utter lack of civility, the venom, and all the other aspects of POFO were leaching into the relationships on the sports boards. Those are why we exist.

And not to put too fine a point on it but we could not find a MOD who would stay in that forum.

. This. I never came here to talk politics and getting dragged in to that bs is just not how I care to spend my time on this forum. I come here to to talk Dolphins or at the very least football in general and I think that's how most of our posters feel. That forum makes good people dislike each other and creates friction where nine should be necessary. To be honest, it's been a long time coming.

"Ohiophinphan wrote:

The utter lack of civility, the venom, and all the other aspects of POFO were leaching into the relationships on the sports boards. Those are why we exist.

And not to put too fine a point on it but we could not find a MOD who would stay in that forum.

I respect that. I'll miss the very informative posts and conversations there but I can truely understand why the decision was made.

"Ohiophinphan wrote:

The utter lack of civility, the venom, and all the other aspects of POFO were leaching into the relationships on the sports boards. Those are why we exist.

And not to put too fine a point on it but we could not find a MOD who would stay in that forum.

So ... we're gonna go ahead and need to ban Tannehill threads in the mains then.

JK!

:D

Very good idea to close POFO.

I was the last Mod to attempt... It's not possible. I may suggest, and should it ever be opened in the future would even be open to doing it.. But I think you have to Mod POFO and that's it. Meaning not taking part it any of the debate.. Just delete posts and hand out warnings.

But really a site like this... We've all become friends through the year... Imagine we were to sit down at dinner and talk politics.. We'd probably disagree.. But we would certainly be civil and respectful to each other. When you aren't face to face.. It DE humanizes the discussion, you forget there is a real person with feelings and opinions that you are debating with.

This place is thephins. Com not "eat the heart of someone who disagrees politically with you. Com"

I didn't think POFO should be yanked until yesterday and I walked out of there going.... Stringer and Boik were right...shut it down. Let's get ready for training camp! "

Sorry wasn't able to do a better job modding for you guys... But I'm much happier now that the focus is on our Phins.

The only way for the pofo to exist is to have it unmoderated. Politics are inherently personal, and can't coexist with the site's TOS. Doesnt belong here.

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Political Forum has been shut...

Haven't been since being banned since way back in 2009.

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"Stringer Bell wrote:

The only way for the pofo to exist is to have it unmoderated. Politics are inherently personal, and can't coexist with the site's TOS. Doesnt belong here.

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I would say the opposite. I think the mods have been too lenient with everyone. There was too much baiting and too many personal attacks. It's the reason I cut back on going in there. It's not fun being called names simply because you have different ideas.

I'm not knocking the mods. It's hard work moderating and generally a thankless job. However I do think if they gave out more warnings and short vacations to those who did not heed those warnings the tone would of been different in there.

In any case I respect the decision to shut it down. If the board activity isn't worth the headache that comes with it than it should be closed.

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"vt_dolfan wrote:

Very good idea to close POFO.

I was the last Mod to attempt... It's not possible. I may suggest, and should it ever be opened in the future would even be open to doing it.. But I think you have to Mod POFO and that's it. Meaning not taking part it any of the debate.. Just delete posts and hand out warnings.

But really a site like this... We've all become friends through the year... Imagine we were to sit down at dinner and talk politics.. We'd probably disagree.. But we would certainly be civil and respectful to each other. When you aren't face to face.. It DE humanizes the discussion, you forget there is a real person with feelings and opinions that you are debating with.

This place is thephins. Com not "eat the heart of someone who disagrees politically with you. Com"

I didn't think POFO should be yanked until yesterday and I walked out of there going.... Stringer and Boik were right...shut it down. Let's get ready for training camp! "

Sorry wasn't able to do a better job modding for you guys... But I'm much happier now that the focus is on our Phins.

Dude, ive been modding this place since it opened and i found pofo to be a miserable cesspool. You tried, you have nothing to apologize for. Appreciate the effort.

"shula_guy wrote:

I would say the opposite. I think the mods have been too lenient with everyone. There was too much baiting and too many personal attacks. It's the reason I cut back on going in there. It's not fun being called names simply because you have different ideas.

I'm not knocking the mods. It's hard work moderating and generally a thankless job. However I do think if they gave out more warnings and short vacations to those who did not heed those warnings the tone would of been different in there.

In any case I respect the decision to shut it down. If the board activity isn't worth the headache that comes with it than it should be closed.

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The issue is also that no one wants to visit a football board to moderate pofo bs nonstop. We tried your suggestion at one point...i would have had to quit my full time job that i actually get paid for lol.

"Boik14 wrote:

The issue is also that no one wants to visit a football board to moderate pofo bs nonstop. We tried your suggestion at one point...i would have had to quit my full time job that i actually get paid for lol.

Lmao that's too funny but yeah I get it.

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Well, I certainly understand the reason to close the PoFo. I don't think the moderating was bad, I think politics are inherently flammable. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, the only way to have a PoFo is to just not mod it and if people get their feelings hurt they can either leave the discussion or fire back. After all, it's a choice to get into a discussion, not mandatory.

What's this POFO thing?

Atleast bring back the political jokes thread into the lounge, there was some gold in there

"danmarino wrote:

Well, I certainly understand the reason to close the PoFo. I don't think the moderating was bad, I think politics are inherently flammable. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, the only way to have a PoFo is to just not mod it and if people get their feelings hurt they can either leave the discussion or fire back. After all, it's a choice to get into a discussion, not mandatory.

Except a free for all does not work within the TOS.... And it's very important to fit within the TOS... I think the search engines.. Google.. Etc are very strict with that kind of stuff

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Except a free for all does not work within the TOS.... And it's very important to fit within the TOS... I think the search engines.. Google.. Etc are very strict with that kind of stuff

Truthfully we should not even need mods. We are all adults and have read the tos
Nobody should need to policed it's kind of sad how out of hand things are in there.

I apologize to everyone for my part in it because I know I was guilty of doing those things too.

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I'm going to miss it. I like(d) reading most people's posts, and the community was perfectly sized to get debate with differing views, without being spammed out by the number of users. One of my favorite forums.

That said, no way in hell would I want to moderate there. I got hurt feelings at times, and had to edit some posts once I had a cooler head, and I think of myself as a pretty calm guy. All of the mods did a great job, so thanks to all of you! I'm going to tip a glass to the memory pofo and another for the former mods of pofo tonight.

How about making it a pay to enter area and make it unmoderated? We can police ourselves as far posting nudity or copyrighted info etc. we can make a list of stuff not allowed and if any of that shows up a mod can delete it when member points it out.

"Fin D wrote:

How about making it a pay to enter area and make it unmoderated? We can police ourselves as far posting nudity or copyrighted info etc. we can make a list of stuff not allowed and if any of that shows up a mod can delete it when member points it out.

Tucking is hardly policing yourself FinD

"305 wrote:

Tucking is hardly policing yourself FinD

Omg that ****ing killed me....

Just don't moderate POFO besides porn and spam. I don't think there would be any difference from how it currently is besides the mods being less aggravated.

Unless a moderator is an active POFO poster, the majority of the "you're an idiot" stuff doesn't get deleted. I'd assume that this is because it isn't actually being reported, and no one cares, and the thread keeps going on its own merits. I don't think I've ever gotten points for anything that a mod wasn't already involved in as a poster, and I don't think I've ever reported anything except for all intents and purposes in retaliation for my own posts getting involved.

I haven't really noticed POFO leaking out of POFO, either. I'm generally surprised by the civility that I've had with posters who I frequently argue with in POFO outside of POFO. The one instance I can relate to personally is pretty much the opposite- one of our distinguished general forum posters leaking unsuccessfully into POFO.