Interesting Tidbit from Clayton on Coles

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Da 'FinsDa 'FinsmoderatorOP
Mar 10, 2009, 01:03 PM

From a Q&A with Clayton:

Diehard Dophin fan Brad is surprised the Dolphins weren't interested in Laveranues Coles. I was surprised, too. I guess that indicates they are probably staying with Chad Pennington for just one more season and then moving to Chad Henne. Remember, Pennington and Coles are tight. If this were Pennington's team long term, they probably would have gone with Coles. ….

That's an interesting speculation. It certainly could be they just did not want to give Coles the kind of money he asked for and did not see him as having that much value given his age, etc. But, thought I'd throw this out.

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Mar 10, 2009, 01:08 PM

I dont think theres any doubt the Trifecta is looking to Henne after this season. Im not sure if that factored into them not being interested in Coles though.

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gunn34gunn34New Member
Mar 10, 2009, 01:18 PM

That is an interesting spin on it.

JimiJimiforum_veteran
Mar 10, 2009, 01:24 PM

Sounds just like an educated guess to me. What organazation doesnt hope to turn to the younger QB? Im guessing not signing Coles had slightly more to do with

"Laveranues Coles' four-year contract with the Bengals will pay him $9.75 million in the first year.

Coles wouldn't be hard to release after 2009, but his gamble to forgo a $6 million guaranteed salary from the Jets paid off big time. He'll get a $1.9 million salary, a $4.7 million roster bonus, and a $3 million signing bonus in the first season. The deal's total value is $27.5 million."

Not so much to do with the QB situation.

CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
Mar 10, 2009, 02:04 PM

Here is another theory.This regime is already on the books for an Expensive veteran WR who didnt pan out.

That would damper any enthusiasm to sign an even more expensive veteran WR who might not pan out.

And another theory.Coles has a reputation for mouthing off and being a whiner .Not exactly what Parcells would like to have in his team .

There could be any number of reasons why we were not interested in Coles but in the final analysis we are speculating.

OnehondoOnehondosubscriber
Mar 10, 2009, 02:04 PM

Too much money IMO. I also think the trifecta want to develop their own receivers that will benifit the team in the long term, not another expensive receiver long in the tooth with a short term value.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Mar 10, 2009, 02:08 PM

My theory is Parcell's would break out in a serious rash if two Wr were making over 2 million dollars per year on his roster.

Coles did say we wanted to develop Ginn as the reason why we didn't sign him, which is a shame, but they do seem to have a good eye for UDFA types and unknowns, they only flubbed in chooisng Wilford, the supposed productive veteran.

DOLFANMIKEDOLFANMIKEluxury_box
Mar 10, 2009, 04:28 PM

"padre31 wrote:

My theory is Parcell's would break out in a serious rash if two Wr were making over 2 million dollars per year on his roster.

Coles did say we wanted to develop Ginn as the reason why we didn't sign him, which is a shame, but they do seem to have a good eye for UDFA types and unknowns, they only flubbed in chooisng Wilford, the supposed productive veteran.

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54Fins54Finsforum_veteran
Mar 10, 2009, 05:12 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

I dont think theres any doubt the Trifecta is looking to Henne after this season. Im not sure if that factored into them not being interested in Coles though.

What makes you say that? It is ALL speculation with the Coles story.If you know something we don't,let us know.:wink2:

54Fins54Finsforum_veteran
Mar 10, 2009, 05:16 PM

Sorry,I forgot. Coles is OLD and washed up.(that is "my" opinion)
Just because our boy,Chad is the QB does'nt mean the Fins would have taken a chance on Coles in the first place.

brandon27brandon27subscriber
Mar 10, 2009, 06:45 PM

Sounds like some interesting speculation, but to me, I think it was simply a situation of our FO, not interesting in paying what Coles wanted to play. I feel were looking for a #1, big, tall, big play receiver. Not a guy like Coles who is similar to the receivers we already have


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DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Mar 10, 2009, 07:52 PM

Nope cost vs production was the decision..

AbideN703AbideN703New Member
Mar 11, 2009, 04:05 PM

"Jimi wrote:

Sounds just like an educated guess to me. What organazation doesnt hope to turn to the younger QB? Im guessing not signing Coles had slightly more to do with

"Laveranues Coles' four-year contract with the Bengals will pay him $9.75 million in the first year.

Coles wouldn't be hard to release after 2009, but his gamble to forgo a $6 million guaranteed salary from the Jets paid off big time. He'll get a $1.9 million salary, a $4.7 million roster bonus, and a $3 million signing bonus in the first season. The deal's total value is $27.5 million."

Not so much to do with the QB situation.

Theory indeed. We'll never know unless the FO comes out and says why they didn't want Coles.

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