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Dolphins top target in FA is...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by byroan, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Mike Wallace according to Omar Kelly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ike-wallace-reportedly-dolphins-top-wr-target
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    That essentially ensures its not gonna be Mike Wallace.
     
  3. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    How dare you question Legadu Nanee's biggest fan.
     
  4. Joe Robbie

    Joe Robbie The Patriarch

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    Hope they get him. Tired of being used as leverage.
     
  5. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    :lol:

    Well from what I've heard nothing could be further from the truth. The Dolphins do have one guy they'd really like to get, but it isn't Mike Wallace. Its someone who has been mentioned by maybe one or two people on this board and thats about it. Again this is just what I have been told, but I'd believe my guy over Omar, but that's just me.
     
  6. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    I'd believe Hellen Keller over Omar.
     
  7. Rhody Phins Fan

    Rhody Phins Fan Well-Known Member

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    I believe that. I think KB has made a good case that Wallace isn't really a fit for this offense so it would seem odd that Miami would have him as the #1 target.
     
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  8. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wallace should be the top target.

    He has physical attributes that simply can't be taught. Teach him the routes you want him to run. I've seen no evidence that he's either a moron or a slacker, which leads me to believe he can learn what you want him to do.

    And I'm tired of eharing about this "system" nonsense. If your system can't make use of Mike Wallace and that speed and natural ability then you have a crappy system.
     
  9. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Moderator Staff Member Club Member

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    Without giving too much away, is that target a receiver? Or some other position?
     
  10. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Yet word out of Pitt is that he is a slacker and does not work hard.
     
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  11. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wouldn't be upset with Wallace, but I've got a fair amount of misgivings about him. But if they're willing to alter the offense, I think it can turn out well.
     
  12. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You have a link for that?

    Perhaps it's true but I have never heard that, and I have several friends who are Steeler fans who have nothing negative to say about the guy other than he mildly violated the "Steeler way" by holding out, which very few Steelers have ever done.
     
  13. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Will look for the story, read it about two weeks ago, also my friends that have season tickets for the Steelers have been saying the same thing. Will try and find story.
     
  14. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    that's pretty crappy thinking, I'd say.
     
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  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    :lol: If you are Omar you have to consistently see stuff like this.....He has to know he is a hack....
     
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  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wouldn't be a tight end, would it?
     
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  17. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not at all.

    The best coaching in any sport means putting the players you have into the best possible position to succeed regardless of what your preferred system is.

    Mike Wallace has physical attributes that cannot be taught. He has also been a productive receiver. If you cannot take that guy and use what he does well and he teach him other things to do in your system then you are a poor coach. Now if the guy just won't listen, doesn;t care, or is a moron, maybe that's a different story.

    Take a look at the Lakers for the perfect example. Mike D'antoni is so wedded to his system that he somehow could not figure out a way for Dwight Howard/Gasol/Kobe and Steve Nash to play together. He's a horrible coach. Most any other coach given that roster would either junk their system, or figure out a way to mold it to what the players they have do best.

    Patriots are another example. They really have no system other than "use whatever you have to the maximum of their abilities". Whent hey had a strong running game they ran it, when they had Moss/Welker they focused on thsoe guys, now their WRs are not as good so they got TEs and now feature them.
     
  18. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I will be in a position to confirm this personally, in a couple of days.

    But this sounds right.
     
  19. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Will you reveal the player?

    Jennings and Walalce are no secret, and there are no other free agent WRs that are that interesting so it must be a trade.
     
  20. Rilo

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    Free Agency just needs to get here. If we sign Wallace i will be very happy but this has been reported before and the rumors will keep flying until FA opens
     
  21. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Patriots re do their systems. That is not the same system. You are arguing crappy system, not crappy coaching.
     
  22. Joe Robbie

    Joe Robbie The Patriarch

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    Dead on. Imagine if Shula told Griese to make the sky black with footballs, or told Marino to keep pounding the rock.
     
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  23. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Same difference. If Joe Philbin can't make use of Mike Wallace then that is a problem, either with him, or his sytem.
     
  24. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Club Member

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    Totally agreed. D'Antoni was handed players that he did not choose, and then... b/c hes a terrible coach... is forcing those players to fit his system vs. fitting his system to the strengths of the players.

    But theres 1 key difference here... Mike Wallace isnt on our team yet. So, why change your system for a player you dont even have? Why not just acquire players that fit your system and offensive philosophies? If Mike Wallace doesnt fit the system, but Ireland goes and gets him anyway... the coaches better change things to maximize Wallace's abilities. But we're better off acquiring players that do fit the system and avoiding having to do that...
     
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  25. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5329/mike-wallace
     
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  26. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Shula is a great example and his changing of styles to suit Marino was a big reason why he was a great coach.

    What Shula let Marino do was the complete opposite of everything Shula had ever known or learned about football. Yet, he was a good enough coach to realize what he had and maximize his abilities. Shula's system udner AMrino was far ahead of its time and if we were able to trannsport the 84-86 teams to today, with the current rules, we would have won the super Bowl at least once.
     
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  27. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Brandon Albert sounds about right......yeah thats it....

    you are making me want to puke Con with this......thanks buddy!!!!
     
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  28. Perfectville_USA

    Perfectville_USA Mr Perfect

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    Pleasssseeeee, some of you are acting like Wallace is not a top NFL free agent. He fill a role that is much needed, he can make plays & stretch the field. Plus he is still young at just 25, I hope and pray he is on our short list of FA.
     
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  29. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I disagree for one reason, Wallce IMO is the better player. And I want the better player. This is nothing against Jennings but Wallace is better than him. I'm not counting on Philbin being here forever. Just give me the best players.
     
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  30. Disgustipate

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    That's kind of funny because it seems like Mike Tomlin couldn't do that from one year to the next.
     
  31. unluckyluciano

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    no it's not the same difference. A system can not use a mike wallace, and still be successful.
     
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  32. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Steelers went from a good offensive coordinator to a horrible one.
     
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  33. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree, but what I'm suggesting is that adherence to your system is not a reason to decide not to sign Mike Wallace.

    If he picks someplace else, or he wants way too much money that's one thing. But to say, "We're not interested in Mike Walalce because of our system", that to me is stupid.
     
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  34. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    There are 30 other teams right now that think they will be aquiring Wallace in FA too. Just pop more popcorn and be patient to see what happens.
     
  35. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not really sure how you're going to justify that Bruce Arians is a good offensive coordinator and Todd Haley a horrible one.
     
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  36. oakelmpine

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    Vague enough that if something happens this guy gets credit because he'll make sure we know it, and if it doesn't we all forget about this post.

    Dude if you have information give it out, if not keep the trap shut. 126 you're nothing but an attention whore with a post like this. No one knows who you are (with the exception of a few people perhaps in the boards admin & a few others) so if the info you have is good and it gets back to the Dolphins how do they know it was you that gave it out - they won't because you aren't the only one that will know this info. It could be anyone.....your name here affords you anonimity, yet you just drop enough to tease. Bad form bro.
     
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  37. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maybe horrible is the wrong word, but he certainly failed to get the most out of the considerable talent the Steelers had on offense
     
  38. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend Club Member

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    the next dimension
    It's Kevin Ogletree or can you give us a hint????position or maybe height
     
  39. unluckyluciano

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    I think it's important to be innovative. I also think some consistency is important as well, even if a Mike Wallace becomes available.
     
  40. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Mike Wallace is a one trick pony. Him not fitting a system doesn't make the system bad. Wallace would have to be the greatest receiver ever for your statement to begin to make sense.

    Here, KB posted this in the draft forum.

    http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?74834-Article-discussing-the-Green-Bay-Packers-receivers-and-route-tree

    It explains the Packer philosophy on WRs. They are proven to be successful. You simply cannot argue it.
     
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