Dolphins season over who do we draft?

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

I wish virtual reality were a real thing so we could get these idiot fans that think we need a quarterback to see what bad quarterbacking looks like.

Yea, we saw it last night, every time Tanne is in a must win situation he either plays poorly or avg, and that's why he isn't a franchise QB.

Your either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the landscape, Tanne is part of the landscape.

"Finster wrote:

Yea, we saw it last night, every time Tanne is in a must win situation he either plays poorly or avg, and that's why he isn't a franchise QB.

Your either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the landscape, Tanne is part of the landscape.

I think there are games, last night's being one of them, where you're simply going to have to beat the other team's QB, and I'm not sure you guys have the ability to do that with Tannehill when it's against the league's best QBs. He looked completely outdueled by Tom Brady yesterday, which should create concern as to whether the Dolphins can ever compete with teams like those with Tannehill at QB. If that's the kind of performance he musters up when the big lights come on and the other team has a stud at QB, you all are in trouble.

"Finster wrote:

Yea, we saw it last night, every time Tanne is in a must win situation he either plays poorly or avg, and that's why he isn't a franchise QB.

Your either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the landscape, Tanne is part of the landscape.

If you say it enough times, it might come true....

or not.

"Finster wrote:

Yea, we saw it last night, every time Tanne is in a must win situation he either plays poorly or avg, and that's why he isn't a franchise QB.

Your either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the landscape, Tanne is part of the landscape.

This was Tanne's big game

Outside of Landry, Wake and Jones, we don't have enough football players making plays and impacting games. Whoever the next draft pick is, we need a playmaker whether it's on offense or defense.

I'm still trying to decide if this team is going to be a 5-11 team with a high draft pick or a 8-8 team with a mid round pick. Bottom line, is we can't afford to keep missing on players. We need to take guys who will have an impact on this team.

"finfansince72 wrote:

Hope we beat Buffalo this week. After that who gives a ****?

Beating the jets.

"Finster wrote:

Yea, we saw it last night, every time Tanne is in a must win situation he either plays poorly or avg, and that's why he isn't a franchise QB.

Your either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the landscape, Tanne is part of the landscape.

so what other QB's would win the pats game with the o-line play we had?

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

I wish virtual reality were a real thing so we could get these idiot fans that think we need a quarterback to see what bad quarterbacking looks like.

Ryan has flaws, sure, but so does every quarterback not named Brady and Rodgers.

Not sure why I even bother in threads like these any more.

EDIT: ANd I realize calling posters "idiots" isn't exactly in the TOS but, come on, expecting 16 stellar performances isn't exactly realistic. Rodgers had a few bad games last year. Tannehill is going to have more than him. Deal with it.

That's not the argument though.

It's takes a lot to repeatedly get to the Play-offs and contend. When you're looking at the QB position exclusively you see that the league's top QB really separate themselves year after year. The question isn't answered as easily as just saying 'no one is perfect.'

I think there's a pretty good argument that Tannehill is a quality QB that is good enough to play NFL football but I also think people who view him as a Play-off caliber guy on the same order as Romo, Rivers or Roethlisberger are kind of kidding themselves. I could defend him more if he did the kind of non-traditional running stuff that Newton and Wilson do but he's not capable of that either.

I mean, look at this Suh situation. No one is faulting the team for desiring Suh. He's a great player. But to sign a guy to a huge contract and then appear to have had no plan in place to make that guy a feature player and to sort of show yourself as having little else make the move look stupid.

I think Tannehill is similarly disappointing to many fans who readily admit he's serviceable but also believe he's no where close to being a Super Bowl level guy. It's hard for me to go against that when he's not even capable of calling plays and organizing the offense, or so it seems.

"muskrat21 wrote:

so what other QB's would win the pats game with the o-line play we had?

It's not about winning, it's about rising to the occasion, win or lose, if he played well I'd be happy, but he laid an egg, and that happens too many times when he's needed to have a good game.

He's not a money player.

The season isn't over until we have 6 loses, maybe even 7 seeing how bad most of the AFC is. Next game is huge for us, hopefully the team is eager for revenge on Buffalo.

"slickj101 wrote:

finheaven

Hate to say it but there are more and more finheaven types posting in here

"Finster wrote:

It's not about winning, it's about rising to the occasion, win or lose, if he played well I'd be happy, but he laid an egg, and that happens too many times when he's needed to have a good game.

He's not a money player.

typical, complain about the current but don't provide a solution.

i think thill is a decent quarterback and if we had a high draft pick, I would only draft a quarterback if it was obvious the guy would become the next Marino (which is really hard to tell... So I wouldn't draft a quarterback). I think they should restructure his contract and make some of that guaranteed money, bonuses - as in you play well, you get more money.

But guys lets be real here, this team isn't a playoff caliber team... There's too many holes to fill and lack of talent on both sides of the ball. There's big names but no support cast.

"muskrat21 wrote:

typical, complain about the current but don't provide a solution.

The solution is keep drafting a Qb every couple years until we get the right one. We don't always have to use our top picks. Find a player who can make all the throws and has some passion for the game. They're there.

THill has time to win a meaningful game still because no one is currently threatining his title as starter. As soon as he gets pressure from another player, will he fold like in games, or come thru? We'll see, but it would be nice if he would just start playing better in pressure games now.

Damn it I missed the last 9 games of the season!?!? How did we do? How did the D handle the loss of Wake? Did and young DE step up? Sure hope the OL got better, did the guards become NFL worthy? How about our young CBs? Camp fodder next year or was there some promise?............ Get real ppl there are 9 big games left that's over half the season for those who can't do the math. DE, Guard, CB and LB are so far and away above the priority list right now QB should not be in any discussion until the 6th or 7th round. SMH

Its not over until its over .Thanks to the crazy weekend results there is a ray of hope left for the Campbell led Dolphins.Oakland beat the Jets which will leave them both with a 4-3 record, Pitt. 4-4 ,Fins& Bills: 3-4.

A win against the Bills this weekend will put the Dolphins back in the thick of the playoff race .We have as good a chance as any team because as we saw this weekend the majority of the teams playing are flawed and can be exploited on any given day. And if you havent noticed many of the big name QBs also have been inconsistent .Its not only Tanny.

As far as the injuries ,it happens thoughout the NFL.The next man up has to fill in.:yes:

"muskrat21 wrote:

so what other QB's would win the pats game with the o-line play we had?

Idk how many could win but they could make it at least somewhat competitive and give the defense some rest.

"Finster wrote:

It's not about winning, it's about rising to the occasion, win or lose, if he played well I'd be happy, but he laid an egg, and that happens too many times when he's needed to have a good game.

He's not a money player.

Laying an egg is an understatement. 7 points, three and outs, missing people down field, turn overs. Killer. Reminds me of the Bills and Jets games in 2013. Last 2 games of the season they scored a combined 7 points to miss the playoffs. Ravens game last year another big game and what happened? 10 points? He has laid an egg quite a bit.

"CrunchTime wrote:

Its not over until its over .Thanks to the crazy weekend results there is a ray of hope left for the Campbell led Dolphins.Oakland beat the Jets which will leave them both with a 4-3 record, Pitt. 4-4 ,Fins& Bills: 3-4.

A win against the Bills this weekend will put the Dolphins back in the thick of the playoff race .We have as good a chance as any team because as we saw this weekend the majority of the teams playing are flawed and can be exploited on any given day. And if you havent noticed many of the big name QBs also have been inconsistent .Its not only Tanny.

As far as the injuries ,it happens thoughout the NFL.The next man up has to fill in.:yes:

To think the Raiders might make the playoffs this year. Wow

"Phins Up Wins Up wrote:

To think the Raiders might make the playoffs this year. Wow

Derek Carr is legit.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Derek Carr is legit.

He's killing it this year. If they don't make the playoffs it won't be because of him.

Ive said it before, ill take Carr over Tannehill. His skillset reminds me much more of Aaron Rodgers than any other quarterback in the NFL. Just wait till next year, the Denver Broncos are taking the division this year but next year its inevitible, the Raiders are back.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Ive said it before, ill take Carr over Tannehill. His skillset reminds me much more of Aaron Rodgers than any other quarterback in the NFL. Just wait till next year, the Denver Broncos are taking the division this year but next year its inevitible, the Raiders are back.

It's funny how drafting a good QB can change the fortunes of a team.

Maybe NASCAR can name a race in honor of our QB and call it the Tannehill .500.

"Finster wrote:

It's funny how drafting a good QB can change the fortunes of a team.

Maybe NASCAR can name a race in honor of our QB and call it the Tannehill .500.

Would have to be one lap at Bristol, I think you meant Tannehill 500.

give peyton manning our O-line, and peyton manning wouldn't win either. So you expect Thill to be better than peyton manning, after only playing quarterback for 5 years of his life whereas manning has 25 years of quarterbacking.....