no need to waste draft picks on the offensive line

I would Imagine Incognito is done as a phin, and it would take a high draft choice to get Pouncey. Do not see us giving up a high pick and having to give Pouncey a big contract...would love to have him though. I did not think cogs was playing very well this season.

 

Is it possible for forums to have gas leaks? If so, is it possible that this one has one?

 

Yikes

 

don't we need a defensive end and linebacker and maybe a runningback ?

 

How about we get Marc Colombo and clone him 4 times

 

curious how Brenner plays out. maybe he ends up deserving a spot on your 2014 starting list.

 

Okay... first of all, we don't even know if Clabo will be in his 2012 form, if we re-sign (though, granted, he's been blocking pretty well lately). Second of all, as much as I love the fact that McKinnie's on our team.... he's up there in years. We need to draft/sign quality young O-linemen. So much in fact that it should be a priority in free agency and/or the draft.

 

How about we put six cartridges in a six-shot revolver and play Russian roulette?

 

We cant ignore LT, it cant be done. Lets get a sane one this time.

 

I'm not sure there's a position on the team we need less than DE... Maybe punter

 

I think we need to draft a tackle and running back high in next years draft, just my opinion. We have very little depth or talent at the tackle position or rb position.

 

Yeah, I have little faith in the O-line...For three years in a row the line has taken until the midway point of the season to start playing well. For three years in a row John Jerry has gone from scapegoat to "well he's ok lets keep him".
We need a LT and we need a guy that can push Jerry in camp if he's not ready. I know the line is playing well now and thank god for that but some of us have really short memories I guess.

 

Yeah. Considering that this GM you support has wasted a 2nd round pick on Jon Martin, a 3rd round pick on John Jerry, and a 3rd round pick on Dallas Thomas, it is probably best that we not allow him to waste anymore draft picks on offensive linemen.

 

Incognito will probably never wear an NFL uniform again. I really don't care much about the interaction between him and Martin, but the golf incident is disgusting. I'd be ashamed if he wore our uniform.

The line is playing pretty well now, but I have my doubts that they can repeat this performance on a regular basis. Brenner deserves a shot to start tho next season/

 

If Joe Philbin had his way, Incognito would not have been a part of this team. Crisis avoided. Thanks to Jeff Ireland, we kept Incognito and had yet another public black eye under his watch.

 

Weren't there reports that Joe wanted to get rid of him after that golf course incident?

 

Incognito is not returning!

 

Yes.

 

we need some fresh bodies on the Oline for the tackle and RG position and some competition for LG, i think if brenner does not mess these last 2 games up, he deserves a chance to compete for the starting LG spot at camp, do you hope that dallas thomas or danny watkins emerge though ?

 

Last 6 games you mean? :-)

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damn man, hopefully i didn't jinx us now....of course i believe we will make it, just the thought that brenner's play would be stellar enough to help us get in.

i don't think he can mess it up enough in the PO's to not give him a shot at training camp to win this LG job

 

I have very little hope that Thomas and Watkins are NFL quality players, much less someone they can build the line around.

 

Anyone who can't crack this offensive line, this year, is not a quality player.

On the OP, horrible idea. Drafting offensive lineman is not a "waste", unless the GM that everyone loves all of a sudden is doing it.

LT: I'd resign McKinnie. Sure, it's a stop gap. Unless a starting quality LT falls into our laps at the draft.
LG: Move Mike Pouncey here, he'd be the best guard in the league.
C: Sign Alex Mack from Cleveland. He's pretty good and a veteran.
RG: Draft the best guard available, even if it's in the first round. Find a guy, plug him ion next to the veteran Mack.
RT: I'd keep Tyson Clabo, who has played pretty good since his resurrection. That said, I'd use a draft pick on someone to develop, in case he tanks again.

I'd hang on to Brenner, he's cheap and young. Dallas Thomas will be around because of where he was drafted, I think he has no hope. Sign a veteran multi-positional lineman for depth. Draft at least one late round guard to push Thomas.

 

Saying that drafting offensive linemen is a waste is like putting up a building and saying that spending money on the foundation is a waste. Gotta drive them pilings in.

Except for Pouncey, nobody presently on this offensive line is going to take us to the promised land. What we are seeing, I think, is that two festering sores were excised from the left side, the new guys listened up, and everyone started to play better together. That doesn't mean that they're going to become Kooch, Langer and Little.

We have two older guys on the decline at the tackles, whose best football is behind them. They may be serviceable for another year while the reinforcements come in. There's a reason why Brenner was on the practice squad and Garner hasn't become a starter. With the experience they're getting, they'll be good depth. We need to acquire some linemen; guards first, then eventually tackles. Ignore that need, and we won't take the next step up.

 

With Brenner, it says a lot to me that the coaching staff played him so much in preseason and then almost immediately went with him in the line up upon his activation from the PS. It tells me that the reason he wasn't on the roster to begin with was because the front office doesn't want to admit yet another blown 2nd/3rd round pick, and it tells me the staff felt he was the better player all along.

 

I hope you're right. I like the kid. But I can't help thinking that not even Ireland would put a starting caliber guard on the practice squad, where any team could poach him, just to hide drafting ineptness. Doing that would be even stupider than drafting someone who can't play, if you can imagine that.

 

This is Jeff Ireland we are talking about.

 

The man who cut Evan Mathis?

 

Yep. The man who cut Evan Mathis.

 

Maybe we should take a page from Detroit and draft tightends and wrs until we get us a big time wr .

 

We get that you don't like Ireland. I'm not gonna defend him because in all honesty I don't know enough about it to say so. However, to judge Thomas at this stage is ridiculous. You're actively going out your way to criticise something which is way too soon to judge. It's unfair and short- termists.

 

Say no more.

 

So based on this list, you seem to think the players Ireland has drafted and signed in free agency will eventually become good enough players to be starting on the Dolphins offensive line, if they have a different offensive line coach. If this turns out to be true. That would mean that Ireland did a good job in selecting players for the offensive line and coaching was the main problem.

Personally I have my doubts that Thomas or Watkins will ever be starters on the offensive line for the Dolphins. Watkins was a bust with the Eagles and Thomas isn't even as good as Brenner, who was signed as an undrafted free agent. I have no problem with Garner sticking around as a backup on the OL.

I'm not sure the Steelers won't franchise Pouncey in an attempt to prevent him from becoming a free agent. If they do, the Dolphins will need to draft or sign in free agency, a RT, RG, and a LG in an attempt to upgrade this OL. Hopefully they can get at least one more year out of McKinney at the LT position before they have to upgrade this position also. I think Brenner will be a solid backup for the team, but hopefully they can find a new starter for his position in the off season.

I put the chances of Sparano coming back to be the offensive line coach of the Dolphins at 0%. I don't think he and Ross get along very well. I just don't see Philbin wanting to hire an assistant with the history Sparano has with the Dolphins. Besides, I don't think Sparano is really an upgrade as an offensive line coach.