Zeitgeist, The Movie

"Rick 1966 wrote:

It is a knowable thing whether the 9-11 attacks were pulled off by Al Quaeda terrorists or not. If you think it is not, you need to do further research and not among the Troofers.

I dont know, I've never considered myself much of a conspiracy theorist, nor have I really gone out of my way to question the 9/11 story. However, there are things that are raised in this documentary, and others, that are hard to understand given the official story. I'm not sure what that means, if anything, and perhaps that's why it's hard for me to completely agree with certain people on this issue.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

It is a knowable thing whether the 9-11 attacks were pulled off by Al Quaeda terrorists or not. If you think it is not, you need to do further research and not among the Troofers.

It is also quite obvious from video footage and eyewitness testimony including law enforcement and rescue workers that there are many irregularities that don't jibe with the 'truth".

"inFINSible wrote:

It's a shame that you have to "just leave it at that".

I know as I'm typing my replies in this thread I'm also marginalizing myself and having my opinion summarily dismissed simply because it "crazy" not to believe everything you're told.

Not necessarily Infins, I won't be able to watch that film my old and slow 'puter won't allow that sort of thing to happen.

For Myself, I do believe that people, meaning everyone, should examine what they believe and base their world and personal views and faith upon, I believe that a Creator would have it no other way.

I also believe that sooner or later, after the last zeitgeist film has been watched, or a Didache finished, one will have to make choices based on what one has learned, for myself, there is no worse a fate then learning everything, but coming to no conclusions based on that process, that becomes an exercise in mental masturbation, it doesn't really accomplish much but wasting one's time one way or another.

"padre31 wrote:

Not necessarily Infins, I won't be able to watch that film my old and slow 'puter won't allow that sort of thing to happen.

For Myself, I do believe that people, meaning everyone, should examine what they believe and base their world and personal views and faith upon, I believe that a Creator would have it no other way.

I also believe that sooner or later, after the last zeitgeist film has been watched, or a Didache finished, one will have to make choices based on what one has learned, for myself, there is no worse a fate then learning everything, but coming to no conclusions based on that process, that becomes an exercise in mental masturbation, it doesn't really accomplish much but wasting one's time one way or another.

well, I'm not going to think that because I can't find all the answers, that I should stop asking questions. If my life is spent searching for the truth rather than settling on a conclusion using incomplete information, I'm good with that and I would not consider it a waste of my time.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

If you think it is not, you need to do further research and not among the Troofers.

"Troofers"???

Is this derogatory label a legitimate word or is it something you've made up to be loosely translated as "nut cases"?

"inFINSible wrote:

well, I'm not going to think that because I can't find all the answers, that I should stop asking questions. If my life is spent searching for the truth rather than settling on a conclusion using incomplete information, I'm good with that and I would not consider it a waste of my time.

Then you will have learned absolutely nothing at all, why bother trying to look at incomplete information when no conclusion can be drawn from it, wouldn't it better to search through Curious George stories or Cosmopolitan Magazine?

"padre31 wrote:

Then you will have learned absolutely nothing at all, why bother trying to look at incomplete information when no conclusion can be drawn from it, wouldn't it better to search through Curious George stories or Cosmopolitan Magazine?

Or watch re-runs of Gilligan's Island?

Yeah, I guess I could just settle in and wait to die.

"inFINSible wrote:

Or watch re-runs of Gilligan's Island?

Yeah, I guess I could just settle in and wait to die.

I prefer to watch Brady Bunch reruns myself, with cheez doodles and Yohoos...

"padre31 wrote:

I prefer to watch Brady Bunch reruns myself, with cheez doodles and Yohoos...

That does sound tempting.

Just finished it. Very interesting stuff, thx for posting it.

"inFINSible wrote:

That does sound tempting.

It just occurred to me that that would be considered sloth.:lol:

"inFINSible wrote:

It just occurred to me that that would be considered sloth.:lol:

And that was labeled as such by a guy wearing silk robes and a large funny hat...

Anywho, there is some logic behind not being slothful, whether a man in a funny hat said it was bad to be slothful or not.

"padre31 wrote:

And that was labeled as such by a guy wearing silk robes and a large funny hat...

Anywho, there is some logic behind not being slothful, whether a man in a funny hat said it was bad to be slothful or not.

You mean the guys who made up 7 new deadly sins this weekend?

It's no longer " Give a hoot, don't pollute" It's now "Don't pollute, or you're going to hell!"

"inFINSible wrote:

You mean the guys who made up 7 new deadly sins this weekend?

It's no longer " Give a hoot, don't pollute" It's now "Don't pollute, or you're going to hell!"

Yeah, those Papal Decrees are hard assed aren't they?:lol:

On a fundamental level, without such things being said, not pollluting (now THERE is a variable meaning) is not a bad idea, but hell worthy?

What would Common Sense suggest?

"padre31 wrote:

Yeah, those Papal Decrees are hard assed aren't they?:lol:

On a fundamental level, without such things being said, not pollluting (now THERE is a variable meaning) is not a bad idea, but hell worthy?

What would Common Sense suggest?

Wouldn't human reproduction be considered a form of pollution since you are, in theory, doubling your own carbon footprint and trash output? or tripling it... or quadrupling it.

Now there's a conundrum for a religion that disallows birth control.

Did you go to google and search for the video that takes the longest to load. :P

I'm going to watch it right now. I'll let you know what I think. If I turn it off early no hating on me and calling me a sheep........

"inFINSible wrote:

Wouldn't human reproduction be considered a form of pollution since you are, in theory, doubling your own carbon footprint and trash output? or tripling it... or quadrupling it.

Now there's a conundrum for a religion that disallows birth control.

Not really, I've got a nice mud hut all picked out along with low emission walking everywhere...that will knock out that sloth thing as well...eww..sweeet..:hi5:

"padre31 wrote:

Not really, I've got a nice mud hut all picked out along with low emission walking everywhere...that will knock out that sloth thing as well...eww..sweeet..:hi5:

great, now you're inflicting poverty on your children...That's a hell!

"unluckyluciano wrote:

Did you go to google and search for the video that takes the longest to load. :P

I'm going to watch it right now. I'll let you know what I think. If I turn it off early no hating on me and calling me a sheep........

pinkie swear....as long as you don't call me a troofer.

"inFINSible wrote:

pinkie swear....as long as you don't call me a troofer.

deal :hi5:

"inFINSible wrote:

It is also quite obvious from video footage and eyewitness testimony including law enforcement and rescue workers that there are many irregularities that don't jibe with the 'truth".

No, really it isn't. Although many people like to believe there is.

"inFINSible wrote:

"Troofers"???

Is this derogatory label a legitimate word or is it something you've made up to be loosely translated as "nut cases"?

It's a slang term for the "9-11 Truth" movement.

Yeah I've already got some questions for this movie lol

"Rick 1966 wrote:

It's a slang term for the "9-11 Truth" movement.

No it's not. It's an epithet used by those who disagree with the 9/11 Truth Movement's message. It's always used in a derogatory manner in every instance I've seen. I find it hard to believe that, you RikWriter would innocently use such a popular word out of sheer ignorance of the word's implications but, if you did, that's cool. (< slang)

"Rick 1966 wrote:

No, really it isn't. Although many people like to believe there is.

Many nut cases, I know. I get it.