Your 3 Round Mock Draft

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I am sticking to reality. one reason I would never write something so fake as "30 players in a draft with a dozen or so in the first three rounds." Literally no one, in reality, is saying that.

There is no downside to too much young talent.

There is no contrarian arguing here. You are just being lazy to even make such an accusation.

Go look at the draft sim we are talking about.

"texanphinatic wrote:

Just too much trading and too many picks. You're gonna have a helluva cap issue in four years with that many picks in rounds 1-3 in a single year. More likely that some of those picks would be for 2021 (which also likely means they end up higher). Giving up the fifth and a premium player for a bunch of 2nd/3rd rounders just doesn't seem prudent. Who's our QB going to be? Will we have a better shot at a high-end prospect next year? I wouldn't think so personally, it's a big risk to pass.

Not sure, but I think the going rate for a pick traded this year is a pick one round higher next year. If that is true, depending on the situation, I wouldn't mind if we traded one of our picks in the 2nd or 3rd this year so we can add a higher pick next year. No team hits on all their picks, so the more picks we can get each year the better, IMO.

I took a second stab at it, and this time Simmons was taken third overall, so he wasn't there. I decided to go OL, which also seems to have changed the board below me, leading to different options throughout.

5. Tristan Wirfs, OT Iowa
18. AJ Epenesa, DL Iowa
26. Josh Jones, OT Houston
39. Cesar Ruiz, IOL Michigan
56. JK Dobbins, RB Ohio St
70. Bryce Hall, CB Virginia

I also did this one at Fanspeak/Ontheclock, using the CBS Sportsline database, which was just updated this morning.

5. Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia
18. Jeff Okudah, CB Ohio St
26. Jedrick Wills, OT Alabama
39. D'Andre Swift, RB Georgia
56. Bryce Hopkins, TE Purdue
70. Cesar Ruiz, IOL Michigan

Obviously, the free agency period will have a huge impact on our draft. So here is my prediction.

FREE AGENTS

1. Chris Jones/Arik Armstead - DL

2. Joe Thuney/ Brandon Scherff - G

3. Matthew Judon/ Bud Dupree - OLB ( PASS RUSHER)

DRAFT ( I did one without trading and one with)

(5) Tua Tagovailoa - QB
(18) Jedrick Wills Jr. - OT
(26) Xavier McKinney - S
(39) Dandre Swift - RB
(56) Cesar Ruiz - C
(70) Jaylon Johnson - CB

With trade RD 1 (5) FOR TAMPA RDS 1, 2 & 3

Jeff Okudah- CB
Mekhi Becton - OT
Jordan Love - QB
Dandre Swift - RB
Antoine Winfield - S ( Debated 2nd RB)
Trey Adams - OT/G
Cesar Ruiz - C
Lynn Bowden - WR (GO CATS)

I think either one of these drafts would be a win. Also, only way WR is an option IMO is if we lose Albert Wilson. Lastly, as a UK fan would also love to see us draft Logan Sternberg. Has that nastiness as a G we've been missing.

5. Simmons LB
18. Benton OT
26. Jordan Love (dont think he falls this far, but a guy can hope)
39. Austin Jackson OT (willing to take RB here and someone else at 56 depending on how the draft falls)
56. JK Dobbins RB
70. Jaylon Johnson CB.

Sign DE, OLB, OT, S, Depth G and C.

I would sign in FA a DE that can play in a 3-4 or as a DE in a 4-3 (DL of Wilkins, Godchaux, and FA). Sign a rush OLB to pair with Baker on the outside and play mcmillian and simmons inside. add Johnson the the secondary room. For OL i signed a OT, draft 2 (need 3 OT with injuries). Move Davis back inside to RG and sign a depth OG to compete with Dieter. Kilgore at C and sign a depth C or use a 4th or 5th round pick on one. TE and WR are pretty much set but i like Van Jefferson or Cleveland late. at RB you add Dobbins to current room and maybe try to get Perine in the draft in the 4th or 5th. QB you roll with fitz, love, and rosen.

"JIGGAJOE wrote:

With trade RD 1 (5) FOR TAMPA RDS 1, 2 & 3

That is not enough in trade for the fifth overall pick.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

That is not enough in trade for the fifth overall pick.

Noted.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

That is not enough in trade for the fifth overall pick.

"JIGGAJOE wrote:

Noted.

While not consulting any value charts, I feel that would be a good place to add picks from next year. Grier and Flores can afford longer-term thinking, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see us go for more ammo in the next draft. Take Tampa's picks this year like Joe has and throw in a 1 or 2 next year and that makes some sense.

Regardless, trading DOWN from the 5th is hard to see unless we just flat out don't like any QBs (if they love Love we likely take him at 5), or only like Burrow and Tua but don't move up to get either. Even then, is it worth passing on a Brown/Simmons/Okudah?

"texanphinatic wrote:

While not consulting any value charts, I feel that would be a good place to add picks from next year. Grier and Flores can afford longer-term thinking, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see us go for more ammo in the next draft. Take Tampa's picks this year like Joe has and throw in a 1 or 2 next year and that makes some sense.

Regardless, trading DOWN from the 5th is hard to see unless we just flat out don't like any QBs (if they love Love we likely take him at 5), or only like Burrow and Tua but don't move up to get either. Even then, is it worth passing on a Brown/Simmons/Okudah?

I think if Tua is there at 5 you take him, and I don't particularly like Tua as a prospect. I definitely don't like moving up to get him personally. I took the trade with the mindset Tua was already gone. Honestly, I'm more interested to see what happens during free agency period because Tua to the Fins seems like a certainty at this point.

"JIGGAJOE wrote:

I think if Tua is there at 5 you take him, and I don't particularly like Tua as a prospect. I definitely don't like moving up to get him personally. I took the trade with the mindset Tua was already gone. Honestly, I'm more interested to see what happens during free agency period because Tua to the Fins seems like a certainty at this point.

I think we are vastly underestimating how good of a prospect Tua is and the interest that other teams will have. It's vogue to think we will land him at 5, but I think the reality is going to play out differently. IMO if it seems we are going to sit back, SOMEONE will decide to make a move and strike. The one caveat is that there is definitely an interesting pool of FA quarterbacks and possible trade options for teams that are interested.

"texanphinatic wrote:

I think we are vastly underestimating how good of a prospect Tua is and the interest that other teams will have.

It's possible. If someone trades up to take him at 2-4, then they do and we'll have to do something else at QB. I don't think it would be a disaster for us, though. I just don't think he's going to be that much better to make it worth trading up for him when we need so much more.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

I just don't think he's going to be that much better

That much better than what? Herbert? Rosen?

"texanphinatic wrote:

That much better than what? Herbert? Rosen?

Than other QBs we could get in the draft or free agency. Not Rosen, probably. Herbert? Don't know about him. I like his physical tools, but I don't think he's the QB we want from the neck up. If we don't get Tua at 5, I would be willing to try Jordan Love with a lower pick in the first, or maybe Jacon Eason in the second round.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Than other QBs we could get in the draft or free agency. Not Rosen, probably. Herbert? Don't know about him. I like his physical tools, but I don't think he's the QB we want from the neck up. If we don't get Tua at 5, I would be willing to try Jordan Love with a lower pick in the first, or maybe Jacon Eason in the second round.

Love is interesting, Eason has tools but lacks processing power, hard pass. I think you are in the hard minority on Tua, especially when it comes to "professional" evaluators (scouts, GMs, media who actually know their shit).

Tua is the classic case of a guy being so good and so hyped for so long that people essentially turn on him or try to mix him back into the pack. Dude's one of the most legit prospects to come out in awhile.

I need more info on Tua's injury/rehab. Until then,

Using the draft simulator website the OP provided....

5. Mekhi Becton (OT) - 6'7" mauler
18. Jerry Jeudy (WR) - I still can't believe it
26. Justin Herbert (QB) - taking a shot
39. DeAndre Swift (RB) - #1 ranked RB
56. Isaiah Wilson (OT) - 6'7" mauler
70. Tyler Biadasz (OC) - top center, IMO.

Overpay for Brandon Scherff (OG) in free agency. We'll have one hell of a offensive line, a top RB, and playmakers at WR. I don't think even Chan Gailey can screw up this offense.

"texanphinatic wrote:

Love is interesting, Eason has tools but lacks processing power, hard pass. I think you are in the hard minority on Tua, especially when it comes to "professional" evaluators (scouts, GMs, media who actually know their ****).

Tua is the classic case of a guy being so good and so hyped for so long that people essentially turn on him or try to mix him back into the pack. Dude's one of the most legit prospects to come out in awhile.

Has nothing to do with the QB he was, it has to do with how much mobility was part of his college game and how the injury might affect that. Maybe it won't, but I'm not willing to risk trading a bunch of picks on the chance.

"texanphinatic wrote:

I think we are vastly underestimating how good of a prospect Tua is and the interest that other teams will have. It's vogue to think we will land him at 5, but I think the reality is going to play out differently. IMO if it seems we are going to sit back, SOMEONE will decide to make a move and strike. The one caveat is that there is definitely an interesting pool of FA quarterbacks and possible trade options for teams that are interested.

I mean I get what you are saying, but I'm not changing my stance. Maybe I'm bias. I'm just not sold on Tua. At the end of the day... I'm not the GM so it doesn't really matter.

"texanphinatic wrote:

Love is interesting, Eason has tools but lacks processing power, hard pass. I think you are in the hard minority on Tua, especially when it comes to "professional" evaluators (scouts, GMs, media who actually know their ****).

Tua is the classic case of a guy being so good and so hyped for so long that people essentially turn on him or try to mix him back into the pack. Dude's one of the most legit prospects to come out in awhile.

I think Jalen Hurts is a better QB than Love. If we pass on Tua (which I think we should because of injury risk) then I believe taking Hurts on day 2 is the best option.

"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:

I need more info on Tua's injury/rehab. Until then,

Using the draft simulator website the OP provided....

5. Mekhi Becton (OT) - 6'7" mauler
18. Jerry Jeudy (WR) - I still can't believe it
26. Justin Herbert (QB) - taking a shot
39. DeAndre Swift (RB) - #1 ranked RB
56. Isaiah Wilson (OT) - 6'7" mauler
70. Tyler Biadasz (OC) - top center, IMO.

Overpay for Brandon Scherff (OG) in free agency. We'll have one hell of a offensive line, a top RB, and playmakers at WR. I don't think even Chan Gailey can screw up this offense.

I'm not sold on Bechton, he is big but got regularly beat in college. He is being over hyped because of physical tools while ignoring his actual production which was not that good. Only tackles worth a first round pick in my opinion are Thomas, Willis, and Jones.

Never happen but this would be fun, thats what the tool offered up.
Getting Burrow at 5. Please. Dobbins at 56? Yippee. Cushenberry may be best C in draft and other than QB I could argue C is our biggest need.
And I would put DT over QB today.I would rank our NEEDS DT, C, DE, G, QB, S, for next year and I could move G up to 1st. Where you can fill those needs will change order but going BPA down that list would work for me.

5. Joe BurrowQB, LSU
18. A.J. Epenesa, EDGE, Iowa
26. Lloyd Cushenberry III IOL, LSU
39. Raekwon Davis IDL, Alabama
56. J.K. Dobbins RB, Ohio State
70. Trey Adams OT, Washington

"Puka-head wrote:

Never happen but this would be fun, thats what the tool offered up.
Getting Burrow at 5. Please. Dobbins at 56? Yippee. Cushenberry may be best C in draft and other than QB I could argue C is our biggest need.
And I would put DT over QB today.I would rank our NEEDS DT, C, DE, G, QB, S, for next year and I could move G up to 1st. Where you can fill those needs will change order but going BPA down that list would work for me.

5. Joe BurrowQB, LSU
18. A.J. Epenesa, EDGE, Iowa
26. Lloyd Cushenberry III IOL, LSU
39. Raekwon Davis IDL, Alabama
56. J.K. Dobbins RB, Ohio State
70. Trey Adams OT, Washington

At my job I got Joe Burrow at 5 and Isiah Simmons at 18. I do not log in here on my work computer. I wish I could have shared that one.

"Puka-head wrote:

Never happen but this would be fun, thats what the tool offered up.
Getting Burrow at 5. Please. Dobbins at 56? Yippee. Cushenberry may be best C in draft and other than QB I could argue C is our biggest need.
And I would put DT over QB today.I would rank our NEEDS DT, C, DE, G, QB, S, for next year and I could move G up to 1st. Where you can fill those needs will change order but going BPA down that list would work for me.

5. Joe BurrowQB, LSU
18. A.J. Epenesa, EDGE, Iowa
26. Lloyd Cushenberry III IOL, LSU
39. Raekwon Davis IDL, Alabama
56. J.K. Dobbins RB, Ohio State
70. Trey Adams OT, Washington

I would do cartwheels from Iowa to Miami if this draft actually happened. Don’t even care after the first 2 but a lot of good played on that list.

• 70
  Cam Akers, RB, Florida State

• 56
  Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

39
Cesar Ruiz, IOL, Michigan
26
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
18
Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
5
Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama


Annoyed to miss the tier 1 running backs as they're normally available at 56 but all gone this time.

"Wilkimania wrote:

• 70
  Cam Akers, RB, Florida State

• 56
  Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

39
Cesar Ruiz, IOL, Michigan
26
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
18
Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
5
Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

Annoyed to miss the tier 1 running backs as they're normally available at 56 but all gone this time.

Picking up three of the best offensive linemen in the draft certainly makes up for missing on the elite backs! I like what Akers has to offer, too.