X Howard Arrested for Domestic Battery
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"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
"According to the police report provided to the Sun-Sentinel, the Dolphins’ Pro Bowl cornerback and his fiance got into a verbal argument about the recent purchase of a purse that wasn’t disclosed and the altercation became physical when the defendant grabbed her arm and pushed her back up against a mirrored glass wall in the hallway of their bedroom.
The defendant then let her go, causing her to fall to the floor on her right arm, which landed on his crutches.
The defendant had physical scratches and redness on her right wrist and forearm."
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
Friggin idiot. Hopefully it isn’t as bad as it sounds.
The Dolphins are the softest team in the NFL. Tua hater starting 12/11/22.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
The worst par is, it's because of his reaction to a damn purse.
Its not like she just told him shes been cheating and a child isnt his. Not that it would be okay in those circumstances (it wouldnt be) but at least you could attribute it to a momentary inability to deal with stress and pain.
In this case it's just an incredible overreaction that, if true, doesnt seem even the least bit understandable or justified.
This isn't good news at all...but it almost sounds like a non-story. I can't see them prosecuting over two people wrestling for a purse and one of them falling down.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
I follow him on instagram and Howard has a brace on that leg and has been on a wheelchair around his home as hes trying not to put weight on his left leg..
I imagine he doesnt have much control of his body and hope this was an accident and overreaction by his fiance..
but over a damn purse? Hes got to be smarter than that.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
He's a young man who overreacted. It probably wasn't "the purse" but some other underlining issue and the purse just set everything off. Maybe he's tired of being on crutches, Maybe he's sick of sitting around, maybe he's got cabin fever from not playing, maybe traffic was bad and he had road rage. Either way, it's never excusable to get physical with a woman, but this is a bit dramatic. I'm not condoning what he did in any way, but you can literally go to jail these days for anything. I know a guy who threw a pillow across the room while arguing with his wife. She got scared and called the cops and he went to jail for it. Again....control yourself X....It's especially hard to do when you're a younger man, but he's got a lot to lose as do we all.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
CB Okudah at #5? Tough news to hear, and Miami may need to trade Howard to the Raiders if, IF it's part of a pattern. As was mentioned, many states have a law that says that any call for domestic violence means that SOMEONE has to be arrested, regardless of the merit of the charges.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
"Howard, 6 feet and 200 pounds, “grabbed both her arms and pushed her back up against the mirrored glass wall in the hallway of their bedroom,” the police report states. Howard “then let her go, causing her to fall to the floor on her right arm, landing on his medical assisted walking crutch, which was on the floor.”
Police say they found the crutches next to the mirrored wall.
“One of the top support braces of the crutch was broken,” Officer Pedro Perez wrote in the report. “I inspected the mirrored glass wall which wasn’t damaged, but smudge marks were seen.”
His fiancée had “visible” scratches, redness on her right wrist and forearm and “redness and an abrasion” on her right elbow from falling on the crutches, according to police...
...Howard is now at risk of a league suspension to begin next season. The length of a suspension would be at the discretion of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
Howard told officers he had knee pain from a recent surgery and was taken to Westside Regional Hospital before being booked to Broward Sheriff Office’s Main Jail, where he is being hold on a $3,000 bond...
...Monday’s arrest was Howard’s first known arrest."
From: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article238824688.html
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
Why??? We were actually about to end the season with a little bit of positive vibe...
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
We started this season the laughing stock of the league. Some even started saying worst team ever. We got rid of stars who were not in line with our plan for the future. We bring in a coach who is no nonsense who PLAYERS apparently love to play for and who brings out the best of them. For lack of a better term Flores is a bad dude who you can’t help but love if he is your coach.
We have a good second half to the season and even games we lost we could have won, Jets, etc
We end the season on a high note by beating the Pats in a huge game for them in Foxboro!
Now this.
This team has been plagued by dumb moves and bone head mismanagement and guidance for the past 10+ years. The old ownership would, even if allegations are substantiated, find a way to keep the player.
I like the direction this organization is taking. We need to continue the path we have been taking recently. Superstar or not if you do not fit in, are a cancer to the team or don’t remember that you are first and foremost a representative of the team you are gone!
The organization owes it to we lifelong fans who have had our hopes raised and then destroyed for years on end.
If he laid a finger on her he MUST be suspended and then have his contract voided PERIOD!
Let’s build a championship the right way-from the ground up.
Go Fins!
Honestly, viewing this from a purely football standpoint ... would we be disappointed at a voiding of his contract? He was having a rough season and then the injury. How likely are we to see the 2018 version of X versus the 2019 version?
Just super poor judgement all around from him, it's really not hard to NOT put hands on a lady. Just don't even go there. You're a millionaire dude, let her have the purse but cut off future funds if you are that concerned and move on with your rehab instead of attacking and possibly re-injuring yourself, let alone harming the woman and getting into legal trouble.
It will be an interesting study for Flores to see how he handles this though, whether he wants to just cut bait or wants to offer a second chance and how he and Grier can frame that to fans. Remember that just because he is a former Patriot doesn't mean he won't potentially tolerate bad character guys.
"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)
"texanphinatic wrote:
Honestly, viewing this from a purely football standpoint ... would we be disappointed at a voiding of his contract? He was having a rough season and then the injury. How likely are we to see the 2018 version of X versus the 2019 version?
Just super poor judgement all around from him, it's really not hard to NOT put hands on a lady. Just don't even go there. You're a millionaire dude, let her have the purse but cut off future funds if you are that concerned and move on with your rehab instead of attacking and possibly re-injuring yourself, let alone harming the woman and getting into legal trouble.
It will be an interesting study for Flores to see how he handles this though, whether he wants to just cut bait or wants to offer a second chance and how he and Grier can frame that to fans. Remember that just because he is a former Patriot doesn't mean he won't potentially tolerate bad character guys.
If you want to talk from a football perspective, it depends how bad his injury really is and how the rest of his career plays out.
It would definitely suck if we cut him and he regained form somewhere. That said it would be helpful if he doesnt and it saved us money.
Considering how much cap space we have even with him signed I'm not sure dumping his salary is a priority.
"Galant wrote:
Why didn't he have a lawyer?
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
"texanphinatic wrote:
Honestly, viewing this from a purely football standpoint ... would we be disappointed at a voiding of his contract? He was having a rough season and then the injury. How likely are we to see the 2018 version of X versus the 2019 version?
Just super poor judgement all around from him, it's really not hard to NOT put hands on a lady. Just don't even go there. You're a millionaire dude, let her have the purse but cut off future funds if you are that concerned and move on with your rehab instead of attacking and possibly re-injuring yourself, let alone harming the woman and getting into legal trouble.
It will be an interesting study for Flores to see how he handles this though, whether he wants to just cut bait or wants to offer a second chance and how he and Grier can frame that to fans. Remember that just because he is a former Patriot doesn't mean he won't potentially tolerate bad character guys.
"The Csonk wrote:
The organization owes it to we lifelong fans who have had our hopes raised and then destroyed for years on end.
That's the thing though- they don't "owe us" anything...it's not our team and we have zero say in the matter. While we hope that the ownership/GM would have our best interests at heart, Ross's first few moves as owner was to bring in celebrity co-owners and build a nightclub in the stadium to draw in new types of fans.
If this team turns the corner in the years ahead it will be in spite of Ross, not because of him. And while I believe that he wants to field a championship team as much as any owner, his input means next to nothing since he doesn't seem to fully grasp what it takes to build a contender. It seems like lately Marino has his ear as much as anyone and of course we all love Marino, but that doesn't mean he's qualified to be the lead counsel to an owner.
As I've said throughout the year, the next few seasons will 100% hinge on Grier building the right talent from the ground up. We did find a few keepers this season and that will definitely help with the rebuild, but we're still 20+ pieces away from being a complete football team. Howard was one of the most important pieces long-term and he's barely played the past three seasons...so I think that reflects some on Grier and his decision-making process. We should have kept Minkah and shopped Howard instead- the payoff would have been greater and we ultimately would have kept the more valuable of the two players since Howard can't seem to stay on the field healthy (and that's not even considering this latest wrinkle).
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
"KeyFin wrote:
That's the thing though- they don't "owe us" anything...it's not our team and we have zero say in the matter. While we hope that the ownership/GM would have our best interests at heart, Ross's first few moves as owner was to bring in celebrity co-owners and build a nightclub in the stadium to draw in new types of fans.
If this team turns the corner in the years ahead it will be in spite of Ross, not because of him. And while I believe that he wants to field a championship team as much as any owner, his input means next to nothing since he doesn't seem to fully grasp what it takes to build a contender. It seems like lately Marino has his ear as much as anyone and of course we all love Marino, but that doesn't mean he's qualified to be the lead counsel to an owner.
As I've said throughout the year, the next few seasons will 100% hinge on Grier building the right talent from the ground up. We did find a few keepers this season and that will definitely help with the rebuild, but we're still 20+ pieces away from being a complete football team. Howard was one of the most important pieces long-term and he's barely played the past three seasons...so I think that reflects some on Grier and his decision-making process. We should have kept Minkah and shopped Howard instead- the payoff would have been greater and we ultimately would have kept the more valuable of the two players since Howard can't seem to stay on the field healthy (and that's not even considering this latest wrinkle).
Does Greir not get credit for the players her has brought in during this season?
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Uh, without fans you don't make money. So they do sort of owe fans a winning team. We spend our money to support the team.
"texanphinatic wrote:
Honestly, viewing this from a purely football standpoint ... would we be disappointed at a voiding of his contract? He was having a rough season and then the injury. How likely are we to see the 2018 version of X versus the 2019 version?
Just super poor judgement all around from him, it's really not hard to NOT put hands on a lady. Just don't even go there. You're a millionaire dude, let her have the purse but cut off future funds if you are that concerned and move on with your rehab instead of attacking and possibly re-injuring yourself, let alone harming the woman and getting into legal trouble.
It will be an interesting study for Flores to see how he handles this though, whether he wants to just cut bait or wants to offer a second chance and how he and Grier can frame that to fans. Remember that just because he is a former Patriot doesn't mean he won't potentially tolerate bad character guys.
It’s a bad look for future free agents if we just go ahead and void his contract without getting all the facts.. this is a top 5 cornerback.. and from what we have gathered so far, it was a shove.. not a punch or kick like Kareem Hunt.. a shove..
even Jarvis Landry had his thing where he pegged his girlfriend with her cellphone and he didnt face any punishment.
I get the feeling this fiancé of his will drop the charges soon.. unless shes really digging for money to make a civil suit.. shes already guaranteed custody with the kids due to this.