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"Silverphin wrote:

To be fair, Ryan Tannehill started his NFL career under Joe Philbin and Richard Sherman.

And mayfield has Bill walsh!Come on dude!

"pumpdogs wrote:

And mayfield has Bill walsh!Come on dude!

Head coach won what 1-32 or something like that.

"pumpdogs wrote:

And mayfield has Bill walsh!Come on dude!

So if you were the owner of the Browns, would you choose Philbin and Sherman over Bowles and Kitchens?

"pumpdogs wrote:

Head coach won what 1-32 or something like that.

Gase, with his starting QB has performed better than Hue with Mayfield. And Gase has done better, so far, with RT's back-ups.

"pumpdogs wrote:

I am bias because this is the guy I wanted in the draft and he is playing much better than tannehill did in his rookie season.
You might not be one of them but numerous people on this board fell in love with tannehill after his rookie season for whatever reason.
Just pissed we didn't get him.

I love mayfield. I think he is the real deal. However, Ryan had a 4 game span where he threw 9 TD's early in his career. What Baker is doing right now is great. He is not, however, all of a sudden an elite QB. He's an 87 passer rating QB.

"Redwine4all wrote:

They are much better than we are now. Sad but true.

They have got a lot of good young talent, partly because they have had a lot of top 5 draft picks for about the last 20 years

"KeyFin wrote:

Elaborate? You mean back up shallow words with actual thoughts? Who the heck would want to do that?

Their core players are young...and improving. Ours are old and getting worse. They've been in every game but three. We got blown out by NE, totally collapsed vs Cincy,..both games RT played. We suck, they dont. Got it? lol.

"danmarino wrote:

Gase, with his starting QB has performed better than Hue with Mayfield. And Gase has done better, so far, with RT's back-ups.
ROFLMAO....Yeah. Ok. Hue is gone. I love how you compare Gase to the worst coach in the history of the league. Gregg William's is 10x better than Gase.

I love mayfield. I think he is the real deal. However, Ryan had a 4 game span where he threw 9 TD's early in his career. What Baker is doing right now is great. He is not, however, all of a sudden an elite QB. He's an 87 passer rating QB.

"danmarino wrote:

Gase, with his starting QB has performed better than Hue with Mayfield. And Gase has done better, so far, with RT's back-ups.

I love mayfield. I think he is the real deal. However, Ryan had a 4 game span where he threw 9 TD's early in his career. What Baker is doing right now is great. He is not, however, all of a sudden an elite QB. He's an 87 passer rating QB.

Dude he is a rookie!Tannehill had 11 tds in 16 games.

"Silverphin wrote:

So if you were the owner of the Browns, would you choose Philbin and Sherman over Bowles and Kitchens?

What are u talking about?Hue Jackson was this guys head coach until last week.The guy won 1 game in 2 years.Worst coach in history.

Our problem is and has been our offensive line. They don’t give our quarterbacks any time to find the open players. It’s badicslly drop back throw or be killed.

Yes we need a franchise QB we don’t have one on the roster and if this isn’t addressed Our GM should be shown the door!!!

We have a lot of needs and issues but we have to fix the offensive line!!!!

"Dorfdad wrote:

Our problem is and has been our offensive line. They don’t give our quarterbacks any time to find the open players. It’s badicslly drop back throw or be killed.

Yes we need a franchise QB we don’t have one on the roster and if this isn’t addressed Our GM should be shown the door!!!

We have a lot of needs and issues but we have to fix the offensive line!!!!

I may not remember every guy we have drafted recently, but it seems to me we can't draft OL worth a shit unless one falls to them in the 1st round. Find a hidden gem in the mid to late rounds? Not likely. If I was Ross I would pay a consultant (someone who knows their shit) to help us find good O-linemen. It's getting desperate.

I would have rather promoted one of our guy off the practice squad. Might as well see what they got to start planning for next year.

"Redwine4all wrote:

Their core players are young...and improving. Ours are old and getting worse. They've been in every game but three. We got blown out by NE, totally collapsed vs Cincy,..both games RT played. We suck, they dont. Got it? lol.

What was the injury situation for those games?

Come on dude, you're not even being remotely rational about this stuff.

"resnor wrote:

What was the injury situation for those games?

Come on dude, you're not even being remotely rational about this stuff.

No no no...every team in the NFL is better than the Dolphins. The Dolphins suck. Pop Warner football teams can beat the Dolphins. The Dolphins suck suck suck suck...get on board or I’ll insult you irrationally too
(Sarcasm)

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

No no no...every team in the NFL is better than the Dolphins. The Dolphins suck. Pop Warner football teams can beat the Dolphins. The Dolphins suck suck suck suck...get on board or I’ll insult you irrationally too
(Sarcasm)

The dolphins are the greatest we have the best players,best coaches best everything.
That's why we are in the super bowl hunt every year!Yay.Fucking awesome to be a fin fan these days!Yay!

It's too early to call Mayfield a franchise QB, but he's certainly looking like he has a bright future in the pros. Browns hit a home run with him in my opinion. He's what Johnny Manziel was supposed to be and i'm glad it's working out for them so far. Yes....They're 3-6 but flip those overtime losses that were basically 50/50 up until the end along with the tie with Pittsburgh and they are 6-3. Yes....the Chiefs and the Chargers blew them out, but we are getting blown out on a weekly basis compared to them. Any time we have won a game this year it has been uglier than Brooke Hogan. Titans was an atrocious game, both Jet games were colossal turds, the Oakland game ugly, the Bears game was exciting and yes we won, but it had it's ugly run as well. Other than that we've been housed by New England, Curb stomped by the Bengals in what was probably the most bizarre game I have ever witnessed, the Lions steamrolled us with like 3,983 yards rushing in one game, the Texans dropped bombs on us, and then the Packers shit on us last week. We win ugly, and we lose ugly. The Browns are competitive and extremely young and more importantly (despite them still losing games) they are entertaining, and that.... is credited to Baker Mayfield. I can't wait for next season when Tyrod Taylor is our starting QB.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

It's too early to call Mayfield a franchise QB, but he's certainly looking like he has a bright future in the pros. Browns hit a home run with him in my opinion. He's what Johnny Manziel was supposed to be and i'm glad it's working out for them so far. Yes....They're 3-6 but flip those overtime losses that were basically 50/50 up until the end along with the tie with Pittsburgh and they are 6-3. Yes....the Chiefs and the Chargers blew them out, but we are getting blown out on a weekly basis compared to them. Any time we have won a game this year it has been uglier than Brooke Hogan. Titans was an atrocious game, both Jet games were colossal turds, the Oakland game ugly, the Bears game was exciting and yes we won, but it had it's ugly run as well. Other than that we've been housed by New England, Curb stomped by the Bengals in what was probably the most bizarre game I have ever witnessed, the Lions steamrolled us with like 3,983 yards rushing in one game, the Texans dropped bombs on us, and then the Packers **** on us last week. We win ugly, and we lose ugly. The Browns are competitive and extremely young and more importantly (despite them still losing games) they are entertaining, and that.... is credited to Baker Mayfield. I can't wait for next season when Tyrod Taylor is our starting QB.

What is frustrating to me is I think our team lacks vision. They keep doing the same things over and over again, with the same results. I would like to see them on the cutting edge for a change.

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

A least they have a legit QB who is able to see the field, find the open guy, and make the throw. My new nickname for the QB's we have is PROGRESSION #1.

Qb Seeing the field in big picture mode is the vision a qb needs to reach hi levels of play, if they compartmentalize the field they and we, are fooked.

"resnor wrote:

What was the injury situation for those games?

Come on dude, you're not even being remotely rational about this stuff.

How long will you use that excuse. With you people it's always something. You are never okay to judge the Fins on W/L. Always some extenuating circumstances that seem to not affect other teams. This guy was hurt...His blocker was hurt...He just returned from injury...He was throwing to new WRs...His TE sucked...the playcalling was bad...the ref hosed us...on and on and on.

Hate to bring up Orwell on a football board but in "1984" he said, "the act of telling the truth is revolutionary ". My bottom line is a clear and obvious fact-- "the Fins aren't very good (for many reasons).

Here, AND ONLY HERE is that controversial. Other Fin fans, friends, family, people I see out watching games...They agree. Only here is that obvious reality met with derision. Maybe is internet hubris, online badasses, whatever.

But the fact remains to say the Fins dont suck, you have follow that with posts like you see here from the Excuse Makers...Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers, Pats, Texans, Saints, Rams, Panthers, Vikings Bears...they can say their team is good...and leave it. Not us. Not here.

I must be irrational. I must be dwelling on negative. I must be stupid...otherwise, I'd be smart enough to use all of the convenient and often used excuses.

"Redwine4all wrote:

How long will you use that excuse. With you people it's always something. You are never okay to judge the Fins on W/L. Always some extenuating circumstances that seem to not affect other teams. This guy was hurt...His blocker was hurt...He just returned from injury...He was throwing to new WRs...His TE sucked...the playcalling was bad...the ref hosed us...on and on and on.

Hate to bring up Orwell on a football board but in "1984" he said, "the act of telling the truth is revolutionary ". My bottom line is a clear and obvious fact-- "the Fins aren't very good (for many reasons).

Here, AND ONLY HERE is that controversial. Other Fin fans, friends, family, people I see out watching games...They agree. Only here is that obvious reality met with derision. Maybe is internet hubris, online badasses, whatever.

But the fact remains to say the Fins dont suck, you have follow that with posts like you see here from the Excuse Makers...Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers, Pats, Texans, Saints, Rams, Panthers, Vikings Bears...they can say their team is good...and leave it. Not us. Not here.

I must be irrational. I must be dwelling on negative. I must be stupid...otherwise, I'd be smart enough to use all of the convenient and often used excuses.

Homers will be Homers!
I just don't understand how people defend anything this organization does.Its a complete failure from top to bottom.
Here you go the last playoff wins for each of these teams.Only 4 teams in the entire Nfl have been worse than us and it will only continue because we have no direction.

You're being completely irrational. Who is saying that the Dolphins don't suck? The issue people have with you is where you lay blame and how you think it should be fixed.

Yet, when it comes to say, the Browns, you make all sorts of "excuses" to try to prove that they don't suck

Maybe go write on their message board?

"Redwine4all wrote:

How long will you use that excuse. With you people it's always something. You are never okay to judge the Fins on W/L. Always some extenuating circumstances that seem to not affect other teams. This guy was hurt...His blocker was hurt...He just returned from injury...He was throwing to new WRs...His TE sucked...the playcalling was bad...the ref hosed us...on and on and on.

Hate to bring up Orwell on a football board but in "1984" he said, "the act of telling the truth is revolutionary ". My bottom line is a clear and obvious fact-- "the Fins aren't very good (for many reasons).

Here, AND ONLY HERE is that controversial. Other Fin fans, friends, family, people I see out watching games...They agree. Only here is that obvious reality met with derision. Maybe is internet hubris, online badasses, whatever.

But the fact remains to say the Fins dont suck, you have follow that with posts like you see here from the Excuse Makers...Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers, Pats, Texans, Saints, Rams, Panthers, Vikings Bears...they can say their team is good...and leave it. Not us. Not here.

I must be irrational. I must be dwelling on negative. I must be stupid...otherwise, I'd be smart enough to use all of the convenient and often used excuses.

First off, the Fins have a better record than 17 other teams in the league....plus 5 others are tied with us at 5 wins. That leaves 10 total teams with a better record than the Miami Dolphins today. If the season ended today, right now, we're in the playoffs as the #5 or 6 seed.

Second, define "sucks". The team is definitely struggling right now, despite being a current playoff team missing over 30% of their roster. Not a single person here has debated that- it's not a good team with what we have to play with. But we "suck"? I think 22 other teams would disagree with you on that one.

Third, define "fan". To me, someone that can only say, "They're great" or "they suck" doesn't qualify, because they don't know enough about football or the Dolphins to have an opinion. Maybe you're referring to the media that said we're the worst team in the league and will win 3 games tops for the year. Guess what? Those people clearly suck at their jobs. And what I mean by "suck" is that they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

I'll mention it again, we're tied with or ahead of 22 other teams in the NFL. You said you want this to be solely about wins and losses...there ya go. We're the 10th BEST TEAM in the league while playing 2nd stringers on offense. By your definition, we don't suck.....we have to be one of the best teams in the league.

Of course, what I'm saying here is not true either....because I'm using noob logic of a typical bystander that calls themselves a "fan". It's not only about wins and losses in the NFL. I do think it's funny though that you're only point (look at our wins and losses for proof) shows that we're a pretty good football team.

"resnor wrote:

You're being completely irrational. Who is saying that the Dolphins don't suck? The issue people have with you is where you lay blame and how you think it should be fixed.

Yet, when it comes to say, the Browns, you make all sorts of "excuses" to try to prove that they don't suck

Maybe go write on their message board?

Lol...perhaps you are just browsing, or not fully paying attention. If we were a young team (rookie QB, rookie RB, young on D) and being close in most of the games, I'd be ok. But Miami isnt a young team. Cleveland needs are clear...they need an Alpha WR and a LT. Once they get that, they're going to be really good. What does Miami need? QB. Interior OL. DE. DT. LB. CB. And a new coaching staff. See the difference? See why there is plenty of reason for optimism in Cleveland and not so much in Miami?

"KeyFin wrote:

"blah, blah, blah...blah, blah, ...we're a pretty good football team.

Yeah. Right. Okay. ROFLMAO.

"KeyFin wrote:

Second, define "sucks". The team is definitely struggling right now, despite being a current playoff team missing over 30% of their roster. Not a single person here has debated that- it's not a good team with what we have to play with. But we "suck"? I think 22 other teams would disagree with you on that one.

^^^THIS^^^

You know, no one here is denying the Dolphins are struggling and struggling badly. I've made the injury point before. We've been plagued by them and yet we are still in the Wild Card hunt fielding a team with 2nd stringers. Hell, the mighty Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers whom some of you have developed a Viagra induced erection for have a worse record than the Dolphins and yet...

KeyFin is absolutely correct when he says no one is denying the Dolphins have problems but we as a team don't "suck". We're SCREWED by injuries, but for Christ's sake, suck?

Take the '84 Dolphins...pull Marino...pull Clayton...pull Duper...pull Stephenson...pull Baumhower...pull Bokamper...pull Blackwood, either one of them...what happens to that 14-2 season? Would the Dolphins "suck" or just be cursed by injuries?

The first three games of the season the Dolphins, as a team, played very well going undefeated. Even then, folks were already bashing the team. Those same first three games of the season, the mighty New England Patriots and the disputed "goat" Tom Brady start with a 1-2 record having defeated the Texans on opening day only to lose two games in a row to Jacksonville and Detroit. Here with a healthy squad we were undefeated and folks were still touting how we, alone atop the AFC East still "sucked".

I want each of you to look at yourselves....your own employment. If you are the manager or leader of your section, take yourself out...take your right hand man out...then take out 30% of the best workers you have out and replace them all with "qualified" yet unproven replacements. How good is your company going to be?

Do YOU suck?