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Women on Subs?

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  1. 1armychick

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    What a terrific way to bring up EO issues still prevalent in today's society! It still amazes me that there are so many small minds still allowed to waste perfectly good O2. Maybe if they were no longer allowed to waste oxygen, we could solve some issues of global warming...
     
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  2. DrAstroZoom

    DrAstroZoom Canary in a Coal Mine Luxury Box

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    Seriously ... is the U.S. Navy full of these guys or something?

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  3. 1armychick

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    Girl, it's not the woman's fault. It is the man's fault that had to blame the woman because he forgot what personal responsibility is and how to use it.
     
  4. dolphan117

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    In a perfect world, absolutely. In a sub full of 20 somethings that are anything but mature, not likely.
     
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  5. Themole

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    It's "Little Heads" fault. He's a natural creature that can't control his base desires, he's a heat seeking missile that gives no thought to consequences. He has been responsible for the destruction of families, cause of wars, and an untold number of deaths.

    He, also needs a willing accomplice to be successful. The formula for success is where preparation meets opportunity. Seaman Little Head, will always find that opportunity. Where the defense of our nation is concerned, why give Little Head any reason to FUBAR it?
     
  6. Two Tacos

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    In my experience, when there was drama on a ship it was both parties fault. Both men and women have raging hormones in their late teens and early twenties.

    I have no problem with women serving on surface vessels, I don't think you can show that they significantly change efficiency, or impact safety, moral etc... Interestingly, I found that most sailors thought they would until they actually did serve with females.

    Subs are different though. The living conditions are different. The deployments are different. I don’t know how you would make it work. Everyone is too close for too long. Honestly, I don’t know how the all male crews do it.
     
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  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Men's brains are less effective when they are horney. When aroused the man has the decision making of a crack addict.
     
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    Until you do a submerged patrol there is no way you would really understand. You might think you do, but you really don't, no offense intended, it is a very different world.
     
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  9. Themole

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    (For a job) I've never done it. I don't want to do it, it doesn't appeal to me what so ever.

    I would love to do it, if I could have control as to when I could catch some sunlight.

    It takes a special breed to be a Submariner. Thank God for those who have done it and those who do it. They make our world a much safer place to live.
     
  10. opfinistic

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    We are weak and foolish, governed by our most base desires. We wish we could we could rise above that, but alas, we are cursed.
     
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  11. Themole

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    6,790,060,216 are living proof of that statement.
     
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  12. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    But it's not our fault! We had the Garden of Eden, then Eve showed up and bada bing, bada pow....banished!
     
  13. Themole

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    I'm not complaining. Had that not happened, none of us would be here. :lol:
     
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  14. opfinistic

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    And there would be no porn! :sad:
     
  15. Themole

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    I'm at a loss for words on this, Op. I ain't into porn!..... I guess I'll just leave it at that. :lol:
     
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  16. 1armychick

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    We can't trust a boy to control his "little sub," yet we can trust him to control a multi-million dollar warship armed with explosives that cause way more damage to society than his "little sub?" See where I'm going with this?

    Since a boy can't control himself, it makes perfect sense that a woman be allowed to wo"man" a sub. Kick all men off and let the women do the job.
     
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    Thank you for at least giving it a positive thought instead of staying in your comfort zone. I don't know how it would work, but that doesn't mean it should be approached in such a negative way as was on this post.

    BTW, women's hormones really don't begin to rage until 30-40 and up. I am much more "hormonally developed" now than when I was in my twenties.
     
  18. 1armychick

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    No offense taken, but here's the point: How would I know if never given the opportunity? How would you know unless you are in that situation?


    (Side bar - I don't want to be submerged in water on a submarine. I have no interest in a life at sea. Drowning is not a way I want to die, so I'd prefer to not even be in that situation).
     
  19. Two Tacos

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    That seems reasonable. Provided you can get enough women to volunteer. If I was still single and in the Navy, I'd try to get home ported where that particular sub was!
     
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  20. opfinistic

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    *sigh*

    Then can I have my '20,000 Beavs Under the Sea' video back?
     
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  21. HardKoreXXX

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    Serious question: When someone farts on a Sub, is it as bad as I think it is? Furthermore, can that be picked up by an enemy ships sonar? Even Furthermore, does this prevent the Sub Chef from serving chili, mexcian food, or any other bean related foods?
     
  22. opfinistic

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    I'd love hear the echo from one of my 'morning after' Taco Bell/Beer farts. Knock the barnacles off the sucker.
     
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    Since a boy can't control himself, it makes perfect sense that a woman be allowed to wo"man" a sub. Kick all men off and let the women do the job.[/QUOTE]

    No problem with that. But only in times of war. I'd hate to think I was the enemy, and had a Nookie Sub full of mad women closing in on me or my mainland.

    BTW, I do not doubt you gals ability to get it done. I do believe it would add undue stress to the commander of a sub though.

    It would be like living in a 500 ft long, blacked out triple wide that has the doors welded shut, with 190 men for two - three months. Erin Andrews can't even stay in a Marriott without getting her privacy abused.
     
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  24. NaboCane

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    Talk about a ping. :chuckle:

    More like a PONG!
     
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  25. Themole

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    If he has been where his avatar location says he's been; I would say, it sounds more like a covey of quail being flushed. :shifty:
     
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    That is my point.. unless you have been there, you really have no idea, I do. You make all the rules and regulations you want but they will not prevent the hormones from affecting crew compatibility. All the derisive comments in the world about young men won't change nature, or shame them into "proper" coduct. It would only take one incident of rivalry, or jealousy to interfere with focus and the whole crew could die.

    You are never more than a dozen feet from death... you live INSIDE a pipe that also houses a nuclear reactor, nuclear weapons, explosives, high pressure air, hydraulics and high voltage... ohh, and the ocean wants in.. always it seeks to get in and kill you.. every second of every day while underway. There is nowhere to run.. you either fix it or die. The occupants are not the priority, the machinery is.. there is not enough room for privacy of any kind.. crew compatability and food stores are the only limiting factors on patrol length.

    I once was at sea for 84 days.. continuously submerged for 72 days.. we were ready to kill each other, women aboard would have made that much more perilous.
     
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    you will think I'm lying, but I swear I'm not. If you had a particularly vile thing going on.. a something crawled up yer arse and died kinna thing and you farted in front of the fan room upper level ops, you could reek havoc. The first place the freshly cooled and now contaminated air was sent was to was the berthing compartments where it comes out about 10 inches from everyones face who are in their racks.

    ..there were contests, or more acurately, bragging rights for this sort of thing... I cleared an entire crews mess during a movie once..DIRTY HARRY.. do you how hard it is to make a sub sailor walk away from Dirty Harry??? I was proud of that fart.. :up:
     
  28. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I do not see where you are going with this.

    For all of the women wanting men to understand them, this is a classic case of a woman who does not want it to go both ways.
     
  29. opfinistic

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    I am in awe! :hi5:
     
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  30. Themole

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    So am I. I've been puked by a fart before. I almost drowned from puking and laughing at the same time.

    My hat's off to anyone that can make a good man puke with one of his farts.

    Marty, you're the MAN!
     
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  31. Themole

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    All she is saying is she would like the opportunity of say NO, I don't want to serve on a sub, rather than them saying, you aren't allowed to serve on a sub.
     
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  32. 1armychick

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    Classic case my a**. Please don't try to stereotype me into a typical woman. I'm not a feminist, nor do I really care if women are allowed on subs or in Special Forces. I'm playing devil's advocate. It is to encourage open-mindedness and thought provoking discussions. It is not necessarily my personal opinion. There are some games I just don't want to play, and being on a submarine is one of them.


    PS I would love to understand men; think of the money I could make on that one!
     
  33. DeDolfan

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    If we're gonna discuss farts on a sub, what the splatter from close quarters??!! :D 84 straight days will keep most guys, well, straight!! :sidelol:
     
  34. opfinistic

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    And we would love to understand women. Classic case: I told my wife that she's never satisfied, she disagreed saying that no, she just always looked for improvement.

    Same thing, no?

    :no:
     
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    First, thank you for your service, especially on such a tiny vessel. Second, I did not mean for it to sound like you didn't know what it was like to be on a sub. I meant that a woman has never been on one, so how could you know that situation. You have first-hand knowledge, I don't. Like mole stated below, I am arguing about giving the opportunity to say no rather than being told no.

    But as I have clearly stated earlier, I have no desire to be submerged in a submarine. Nor am I a feminist. Thanks! :lol:
     
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    Here's a start on understanding women: Women are always seeking improvement (yes, we are NEVER satisfied). So always look to do better than the last time, ie bigger flowers, larger/more bling, better in the bedroom if you know what I mean...
     
  37. opfinistic

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    What if the Submarine had a mall in it? :shifty:
     
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  38. opfinistic

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    :yes:

    Understood, as men we highly recommend you lower your expectations, it'll make things easier all around. Seriously though, I think that's why such a high % of relationships fail. In the beginning you (as a man) are on your best behavior, clean shaven, no farting, opening doors, not eyeballing other women, but as time passes we have a tendency to slip back to our undomesticated, pre-relationship state. So you girls get the best in the first few months or so, then we slowly degrade back to our natural selves.
     
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  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    1st step to understanding women: Stop
     
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    It isn't feminism, it is women on a whole. Men are stupid when they are aroused. There are many studies that back that up. As long as the man isn't super aroused then he can take care of a big sub.

    From my perspective it is the equivlant in saying something along the lines of, "If you cannot control yourself during PMS, menopause or pregnant, then how can you control yourself enough to have a job?"

    PS You could make a lot of money acting like you understand men. Women won't really know. Hell there are a lot of men acting like they understand women and making tons of money off of it.
     

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