With Bad News about T Perry Here is some good WR news!!

Don't forget Lymon and Wynn, as well as Foster.

"dgb11112 wrote:

Ok here is my take on this and I have spent the last few hours trying to find information that validates my thinking..

I believe Davone Bess will make the team and be a high impact player for us this year here is a comparrison that will BLOW everyone mind.

Eventhough Bess had a 4.69 40 yard dash which was slow he also was the ONLY reciever to catch all of the balls thrown to him in a 6 Quarterback shuttle..

Ok here is the stat regarding a slow 40 time and why I believe that it's irrevelant

JERRY RICE Rice was selected in 1986 and he went to 13 probowls However many souts passed on him becasue of his speed (reportedly only 4.7 in the 40-yard dash)!!!!

Yes we have a diamond in the rough! IMO:up::hi5

I like your thinking! :up: Great thread BTW. Nice to read some positive and upbeat posting for a change.

How many of these mini camp/ training camp wonders have we been through the last couple of years?

Kerry Reed comes to mind.

I like Bess, but Jayson Foster is the one I have my eyes on, 4.2 is nothing to sneeze at, with Tab Perry being cut (tough break for him btw) we may be looking at Kick Returners as well, and Bess doesn't have that extra gear that Foster has...

A shame to see Perry hobbled again. I was really rooting for him mostly because he's a Bruin too.

"padre31 wrote:

How many of these mini camp/ training camp wonders have we been through the last couple of years?

Kerry Reed comes to mind.

I like Bess, but Jayson Foster is the one I have my eyes on, 4.2 is nothing to sneeze at, with Tab Perry being cut (tough break for him btw) we may be looking at Kick Returners as well, and Bess doesn't have that extra gear that Foster has...

Thing is though, Jayson Foster isn't as polished as a receiver as Bess is.

That is bad news about Perry. But I think this does open the door a little more for UDFAs like Bess and Foster. I just hope they really show their stuff in camp and can contribute next season.

I don't like it when people always bring up the Jerry Rice stat... Yeah he ran a 4.7 alot of WRs run horrible at the forty and don't do anything Rice does. I believe Bess will be solid for us just no where near an impact Rice made.

There is 40 yards speed and there is football speed, I just wish more people would remember that.

What separates Jerry Rice from everyone else is his ability to find holes in the defense and the little things to shake coverage. That's what many WR's outside of the elite ones lack.

"Regan21286 wrote:

What separates Jerry Rice from everyone else is his ability to find holes in the defense and the little things to shake coverage. That's what many WR's outside of the elite ones lack.

And he ran like a running back after the catch, I wouldn't say he was fast, he was a powerful runner though, arm tackles would not do the job on him.

"padre31 wrote:

And he ran like a running back after the catch, I wouldn't say he was fast, he was a powerful runner though, arm tackles would not do the job on him.

These days that's a bit harder to do and you'd have to be pretty strong, almost TE strength with the improvements over the years with the defense, especially the safety spots.

where is the news?

shoulda said olds, but I guess you got suckers to look at your thread

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

There is 40 yards speed and there is football speed, I just wish more people would remember that.

Very good point.

Bess and Babers.... Babers and Bess!!!! Cash and Tango... Tango and Cash!!!

How shall we be stopped with these ultimate weapons on our side!?

Seriously, though, Davone looks pretty good. We might be oversellling him juuuuuuust a smidge with the Hall of Fame, record breaking Jerry Rice comparison.

Babers has to be good... because I want that name on my jersey SO badly!!!!

Babers and Bess, Bess and Babers.... the old B&B

"Regan21286 wrote:

What separates Jerry Rice from everyone else is his ability to find holes in the defense and the little things to shake coverage. That's what many WR's outside of the elite ones lack.

What separates Jerry Rice from most other receivers was Joe Montana, Roger Craig, later Steve Young, Bill Walsh, George Seifert, Randy Cross, Don Griffin, Charles Haley, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Bill Romanowski, Dan Stubbs and the rest of the talent those teams had. I'm not taking away anything from his accomplishments, it's just that given the talent that was around him for his entire career at SF and coupled with his ability, he couldn't help but be great....

I sure hope you're right, but comparing Bess to Jerry Rice? Maybe just a tiny bit of a reach there.

In other words, if we can find anyone who runs a 4.7, they're going to be the next Jerry Rice? I didn't know it was that easy. The NFL has been doing it wrong all these years.

"Bpk wrote:

Bess and Babers.... Babers and Bess!!!! Cash and Tango... Tango and Cash!!!

How shall we be stopped with these ultimate weapons on our side!?

Seriously, though, Davone looks pretty good. We might be oversellling him juuuuuuust a smidge with the Hall of Fame, record breaking Jerry Rice comparison.

Babers has to be good... because I want that name on my jersey SO badly!!!!

Babers and Bess, Bess and Babers.... the old B&B

You do realize Babers is a cornerback, right?

"emocomputerjock wrote:

In other words, if we can find anyone who runs a 4.7, they're going to be the next Jerry Rice? I didn't know it was that easy. The NFL has been doing it wrong all these years.

Oh com'on, first off there is alot more to Bess's game, like his sharp routes and glue like hands and second no one is trying to saying he will become the second coming of Jerry Rice but that Rice proved you don't need good speed to be a great WR.

I like Bess a lot but lets not get carried away here, lets see what happens and if he makes the team i wish only the best for him

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

Oh com'on, first off there is alot more to Bess's game, like his sharp routes and glue like hands and second no one is trying to saying he will become the second coming of Jerry Rice but that Rice proved you don't need good speed to be a great WR.

What I'm saying is that if I'm rooting for Bess to make the team and become our slot receiver, I'm going to talk about how great his hands are and how crisp his routes are and not how much his 40 time is compared to Jerry Rice.