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Winners Win and Losers Lose

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Lloyd Heilbrunn, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Perfect example last two weeks.


    Fins come from behind v Bills and let the game get away.

    Pats come from behind and cut the Fins' throats.


    How get we get shutout in the 2nd half vs a team missing its 3 best defenders?
     
  2. Phinatic19

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    the answer is obvious ; horrible coaching and terrible, terrible QB. time to draft another QB and start all over -- again!!!
     
  3. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Runner run while walkers walk

    Eaters eat while drinkers drink

    Drivers drive while flyers fly
     
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  4. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Terrible coaching, terrible play from our QB, and terrible play from the offensive line...It continues and will continue especially next week against the Bengals.
     
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  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Well in a way we're a little bit fortunate, at least from the perspective of fan-team relations.

    I'm pretty sure the Dolphins were going to lose this game regardless of officiating. But instead of the fan ire being directed at the architects of this 3-4 team, losers of four straight games, the fans are mostly just pissed at the officials. That's a good thing. Seems like it'll delay the fan backlash just long enough to give the Dolphins a chance to rebound next week against the Bengals.

    I know the Bengals may look unassailable but road teams traveling on a short week typically do not do well. They're not a totally unassailable opponent even at their best, and they certainly won't be that.

    On the other hand, if the Dolphins do lose this Thursday...ouch. That's the sell-off moment. That's the blow-it-up moment. That's the moment from which fans may never come back on the topics of Jeff Ireland, Joe Philbin and perhaps even Ryan Tannehill.
     
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  6. FanMarino

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    Seriously CK. You think it's in reach or gone? 17-3 at half time. Not many teams do that at Gillette. Total meltdown 2nd half. Sometimes it is what it is.
     
  7. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hard to disagree with any of that.
     
  8. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Can you elaborate on how we would have lost the game even without the calls on Vernon, Wilson and Patterson?
     
  9. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Who gives a f--- about "fan-team relations"??

    Funny that's even brought up
     
  10. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sport is littered with failed teams. The usual common denominator is chopping and changing and shuffling repeatedly. No more short term thinking. Let's let a team build. Lets do some drafting and give them a chance. Ireland has had a decent swing at it but if we chop him we pretty much cut everyone down to RT off the team. That strikes me as wasteful. Too much short term thinking.
     
  11. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Philbin might want to start looking into a league where they only play one half.
     
  12. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Moderator Staff Member Club Member

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    The defense in the second half was pretty pathetic. And Ryan Tannehill did not play well enough to come back.
     
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  13. GMJohnson

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    Ryan Tannehill made some critical errors in the 2nd half, no doubt about it. Tom Brady was equally bad in the first half. But I think it took a poor 2nd half AND the ref errors to send that game down the path it followed.
     
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  14. PhinGeneral

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    We did almost the exact same thing there 2 years ago. Sooner or later you have to win those types of games, especially if you want to be the team you think you can be.
     
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  15. FanMarino

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    Agree Gen. We dont. What is it now?....10 out of 12 Pats winning the East. Just wrong.
     
  16. Jaj

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    Then perhaps it's time to go draft someone from a winning program and let him play. Let him infect the defense with the attitude that they are elite and really believe it. They have to play with pride in all circumstances.
     
  17. Lee2000

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    Don't underestimate some of the fan base CK. I didn't like the calls, but by no means does this team get a mulligan. You give up 24 unanswered points and lose to a team you dominated. I completely hold this team accountable. This is the first time I have truly doubted Philbin as being the head coach for the future. I no longer see him long term, and much of it has to do with his staff and their inabilities to adjust.
     
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  18. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    You can't give up on Tannehill until you fix the oline. The oline is a complete and utter joke.
     
  19. adamprez2003

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    I normally don't whine about refs but this one gm was won by the refs. Three atrocious calls. And what's more they stole momentum each time. I think people forget how important emotion plays in this game and the refs crushed us today. We're not good enough to overcome that lopsided an officiated gm and I'm not sure many teams are. One or two at the most.
     
  20. mroz

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    Personally not blaming the Refs for the lose but they played a huge role in this game, huge.

    Having said that, The Fins are going to end up around .500 (which is what many of thought they would be before the 3-0 start). Is that enough to get Ireland fired? I hope so, I have had enough of him (and I am not a Firelander). In reality the person I am MOST disappointed in is Philbin. I really thought the Fins FINALLY had a good coach but after watching them come out flat against the Bill and just totally getting their asses handed to them by the Pats coaching staff… I am starting to wonder if Philbin is the right guy for the job.
     
  21. jpep13

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    Well Marvin Lewis turned it around in Cinci after the fans wanted him gone, Ross and Philbin can turn it around next season
     
  22. mroz

    mroz Rosen is a franchise QB Club Member

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    we drafted Jordan from a pretty good program… now let him play
     
  23. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Winners win and losers lose, forget it all and have more booze? Is that it? Do I win?

    Sometimes, losers win (us in Indy) and winners lose (Denver at indy).
     
  24. mroz

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    Only one team has ever been a winner that won...
     
  25. scotty_irnbru

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    Ah now I'm confused. It's late.
     
  26. ASOT

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    and yet Ireland has had 6 full off-seasons to do this and it looks as bad as ever. How many more years does he need ?
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    Yes.
     
  28. Limbo

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    How Marvin has kept his job this long really is amazing...and confounding. Definitely the exception, imo.
     

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