Williams' Message to Fans at Training Camp

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ALalen1New MemberOP
Aug 10, 2010, 12:21 PM

"I have two things in particular I would like to address that came to my attention on Saturday .

"I have to preface it by saying that we REALLY DO APPRECIATE OUR FANS, and during training camp it is very motivating having you out there.

"But No. 1: When we're on the field we are focused on what our coaches need us to be doing, not shouts of questions from the crowd. In order for us to get better we need to be able to focus on practicing, and getting better. Cheers and applauds are great. But questions are distracting.

"No. 2: When we make a mistake on the field it would be great if fans would motivate us instead of shouting negativity. We know we did wrong, and it doesn't help to be booed or ridiculed. Each of us is on the field to help this team win and we don't intentionally try to make mistakes.

"I believe in talking to someone the way I would want to be spoken to....a simple law we learned as children, right?"

Yours truly,

@RickyWilliams

Got this from another board. Kudos to RW.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 12:33 PM

While I agree.....it comes with the profession he needs to just block it out.

ALalen1New Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:34 PM

"SICK wrote:

While I agree.....it comes with the profession he needs to just block it out.

I agree that he needs to block it out. However, we are fans, so we should support them right? :)

finyank13finyank13New Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:36 PM

True...I wonder who he could be talking about however.....maybe Pat White??

Sorry Pads...

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rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 12:38 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I agree that he needs to block it out. However, we are fans, so we should support them right? :)

I was taught to only boo bad sportsmanship or lack of effort. I believe booing for other reasons is classless, but in my experience that is a minority opinion. So while I agree that we should support them, I expect that a large number of fans feel differently and that RWs is not likely to get that positive atmosphere he is hoping for.

ALalen1New Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:41 PM

"rafael wrote:

I was taught to only boo bad sportsmanship or lack of effort. I believe booing for other reasons is classless, but in my experience that is a minority opinion. So while I agree that we should support them, I expect that a large number of fans feel differently and that RWs is not likely to get that positive atmosphere he is hoping for.

I agree with you. He said asking questions aloud whilst they are meeting with coaches and fans booing when a mistake was made, was the issue. I don't think that's something we, as a fan base, should be doing but that's just my two cents. They get crap everywhere else they go; why should we, who are fans of the players, give them crap at home?

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:41 PM

Booing players at training camp is classless. Not even I would do that.... :lol:

There is nothing wrong with RW sending a couple of instructions to the fans who don't know how to behave themselves. I like it.

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Aug 10, 2010, 12:44 PM

I'm fine with booing during games. Booing at practice is ridiculous though.

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KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:47 PM

"rafael wrote:

I was taught to only boo bad sportsmanship or lack of effort. I believe booing for other reasons is classless, but in my experience that is a minority opinion. So while I agree that we should support them, I expect that a large number of fans feel differently and that RWs is not likely to get that positive atmosphere he is hoping for.

I'll take it a step further and go back to 2007 when fans were wearing bags on their heads at the games. If you feel that way about the team then don't support them at all. What kind of a person wears a bag on their head at a football game. That was a good way to make a real ass of yourself. If there is anyone here who did that well screw you. No team needs fans like that. There I said it....whew

rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 12:49 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I agree with you. He said asking questions aloud whilst they are meeting with coaches and fans booing when a mistake was made, was the issue. I don't think that's something we, as a fan base, should be doing but that's just my two cents. They get crap everywhere else they go; why should we, who are fans of the players, give them crap at home?

I used to work as an usher at the stadium (years ago) and the predominant attitude I saw was "I paid for my ticket so I have the right to be as obnoxious as I want". It was less prevalent at camp, maybe b/c you didn't pay to get in, but you'd often see a guy whom a large number of fans got on for every miscue. Back in those days Fiedler got a lot of that. I imagine that Ginn faced the same the last few years, although I never attended a camp with Ginn there.

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 12:50 PM

What knuckleheads were out there interrupting practice and, of all things, booing? I don't understand that at all. Cmon these guys are at work. There is a time and place for everything and clearly this was the time for neither.

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finyank13finyank13New Member
Aug 10, 2010, 12:58 PM

"rafael wrote:

I used to work as an usher at the stadium (years ago) and the predominant attitude I saw was "I paid for my ticket so I have the right to be as obnoxious as I want". It was less prevalent at camp, maybe b/c you didn't pay to get in, but you'd often see a guy whom a large number of fans got on for every miscue. Back in those days Fiedler got a lot of that. I imagine that Ginn faced the same the last few years, although I never attended a camp with Ginn there.


I have never booed a single player in my life, and I have been watch sports since a we pup.....I scream and yell dont get me wrong, I get mad that said players or the team cant execute, but booing..nah never done it..

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

HULKFishHULKFishforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 01:04 PM

Boo's should be saved for those deserving. Such as Joey Harrington, Ray Lucas and Nick Satan... I can't think of anyone since Ted Ginn Jr. worth booing, LOL!

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 01:11 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I agree that he needs to block it out. However, we are fans, so we should support them right? :)

Not always. I support the team. If someone is playing bad and it effects the team I will boo. Some people get too conected with players (ginn) and defended him just because he was a dolphin. Screw that Ian a fan of the logo. Not the player.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Aug 10, 2010, 01:14 PM

Wow. Fans were booing? Booing practices/plays/players? WTF people? This ain't Jersey.

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 01:17 PM

"finyank13 wrote:

I have never booed a single player in my life, and I have been watch sports since a we pup.....I scream and yell dont get me wrong, I get mad that said players or the team cant execute, but booing..nah never done it..

I would guess that you're in the minority. As this thread progresses you'll see more and more posters who feel justified in booing players whom they don't like or are performing poorly, even if they're trying hard. I don't agree with that and I don't think it helps the team in any way, but to each his own.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Aug 10, 2010, 01:18 PM

"Stringer Bell wrote:

I'm fine with booing during games. Booing at practice is ridiculous though.

Bingo!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

finyank13finyank13New Member
Aug 10, 2010, 01:28 PM

"rafael wrote:

I would guess that you're in the minority. As this thread progresses you'll see more and more posters who feel justified in booing players whom they don't like or are performing poorly, even if they're trying hard. I don't agree with that and I don't think it helps the team in any way, but to each his own.


I mean it is a hallmark of sports in general that will never go away...hell I remember being at Yankee Stadium several years ago, when they boo'd Jeter, the year when he went like 1-for-June....but I dont get it....it isnt like Ricky tried to fumble 3X in one game last year...I will just get mad at the fact he couldnt hold onto the ball..

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

FinNastyFinNastymoderator
Aug 10, 2010, 01:28 PM

So, what happened exactly? I've only heard little bits about this?

rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 01:44 PM

"finyank13 wrote:

I mean it is a hallmark of sports in general that will never go away...hell I remember being at Yankee Stadium several years ago, when they boo'd Jeter, the year when he went like 1-for-June....but I dont get it....it isnt like Ricky tried to fumble 3X in one game last year...I will just get mad at the fact he couldnt hold onto the ball..

I agree, it will never go away. I just don't see how it helps the team at all. In fact, I believe it hurts the team. IMO all it helps is the fan vent, but the fan is doing that at the expense of the team. It seems to me that a fan is at that point acting against the team, so that would seem to be the opposite of being a fan. But that's JMO and rationality has never been a hallmark of fan behavior. I think that was what RW was trying to express.

THThemoleNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 02:06 PM

"rafael wrote:

I was taught to only boo bad sportsmanship or lack of effort. I believe booing for other reasons is classless, but in my experience that is a minority opinion. So while I agree that we should support them, I expect that a large number of fans feel differently and that RWs is not likely to get that positive atmosphere he is hoping for.

Oh, it can be remedied. I'm with RW on this. If the fans can't conduct themselves respectfully, closed practices would get their attention.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

THThemoleNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 02:11 PM

"finyank13 wrote:

I have never booed a single player in my life, and I have been watch sports since a we pup.....I scream and yell dont get me wrong, I get mad that said players or the team cant execute, but booing..nah never done it..

I can say that too. well...with the exception of JB Brown, and he never heard it because it was directed through my TV.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

SESeanPsubscriber
Aug 10, 2010, 02:18 PM

Bottom line, you do not boo the team you cheer for ever. I don't care if the score is 100 - 0 and you are losing, there is just no reason to. If someone wants to be a fair-weather fan go root for the reigning SB champs, or stay home.

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Aug 10, 2010, 03:44 PM

"Themole wrote:

I can say that too. well...with the exception of JB Brown, and he never heard it because it was directed through my TV.

I can relate to that. I used to flip off Reggie Howard through the TV every time he got burned. When Thurman Thomas played for us I'd scream run you little fuggin' a-hole. :lol:

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Aug 10, 2010, 04:10 PM

JB Brown! AARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!!

Not My Circus, Not My Monkeys.

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