Will the real Pat White please stand up?

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I don't think they have a QB spot for him, and the ordered muscle gain has me thinking RB? Could they be grooming him to be Ronnie Brown's replacement down the road? The wildcat is custom made for this guy because he is so multi-talented. I know it sounds nutz but could this be the answer to this riddle?

As small as he is gaining muscle probably doesn't automatically rule out he won't be on the QB depth chart this year. But yeah, who knows what he will or won't be doing this season.

"cobrajet wrote:

I don't think they have a QB spot for him, and the muscle gain has me thinking RB? Could they be grooming him to be Ronnie Brown's replacement down the road?

I know it sounds nutz but could this be the answer to this riddle?

:sidelol:

He'd get ground to a fine powder in one of those pile-ups.

"lmeister3 wrote:

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Hahahaha agreed!!

I know he's not very rugged and probably wouldn't make it as a RB but, I am totally stumped with this walking question mark. He's like the extra part to a model that doesn't fit anywhere.

Pat White is a miami dolphin QB.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Pat White is a miami dolphin QB.

Let's turn those thumbs this way :up:

Wood-strock??

I would not mind a bit if White wound up on the IR for 2010.

If not, then he had better be all about 'Run Pat, Run" because he will not show more as a throwing Qb than Thigpen.

If you were in PW's shoes and your Head coach is comparing your competition to a pro bowl Qb, and your work to "Qb 101" stuff, how comfortable would you be?

Now PW can run the ball at a high level, if he can pass respectably well, he can stick..but he has to show as a WC player he can do more than Thiggy.

Otherwise, off to 'somewhere' for a conditional 4th rd pick.

4th round? lol

Could they be grooming him to be our red-zone QB? our 3rd down QB? our change of pace RB/WR? Someone had better figure out a place for this guy on this team or we stand to lose him. It almost seems like they drafted him hoping that he'd fit in somewhere, but he doesn't.

"lmeister3 wrote:

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I think Jimmy Johnson would have tried that like he did turning Keith Byars from a FB into a TE, but I don't think TS would do this. Teaching White to run backwards would be a test of patience he wouldn't want. He has real safeties that need his attention. It was a good guess but not a practical one. IMHO

"cobrajet wrote:

Could they be grooming him to be our red-zone QB? our 3rd down QB? our change of pace RB/WR? Someone had better figure out a place for this guy on this team or we stand to lose him. It almost seems like they drafted him hoping that he'd fit in somewhere, but he doesn't.

My one real complaint about that is White has not been given a chance to succeed or fail at any role, 52 plays is nothing for a young Qb, and yet the shovels are out to bury the guy.

"cobrajet wrote:

Could they be grooming him to be our red-zone QB? our 3rd down QB? our change of pace RB/WR? Someone had better figure out a place for this guy on this team or we stand to lose him. It almost seems like they drafted him hoping that he'd fit in somewhere, but he doesn't.

The same could be said of Henne in 08.

Real point being, the past does not control the future, each player is unique, and if one notices, those Qb's came in under different regimes.

The past is a different country, they do things differently here.

gain muscle so when he runs in th eWC he doesnt break every bone in his thin body when he gets hit.... nothing more than that IMO

"padre31 wrote:

My one real complaint about that is White has not been given a chance to succeed or fail at any role, 52 plays is nothing for a young Qb, and yet the shovels are out to bury the guy.

That 52 plays was enough to expose the fact that he's not the player they thought he would be at the next level......that he's too small, too slow and too inaccurate to have been drafted before the 6th round.

Name a position that he belongs at? A position where he's actually better than the next guy?

He couldn't beat out anyone at any offensive skill position.... on a level playing field.

Some of us are ready to bury him because he's a waste of a roster spot and we have some good young talent that will likely be lost because him. Hanging on to a thread of hope will only compound the fact that this was an AWFUL pick....... move on, forward.

The Miami Dolphin website only has Pat White listed as 6' - 190 lbs, you really can't do a ton in the NFL with that build other than be a WR or QB on the offensive side of the ball. If the team keeps all of their current QB's and the WR's improve where do we put Pat White?? If he can't play, we can't trade him and he's just on the roster doing nothing could we see him reduced to the practice squad?

He'll be running the pistol option so he needs to be able to take hits.

"cobrajet wrote:

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......anyone care to speculate..????

Baseball

"cobrajet wrote:

I don't think they have a QB spot for him, and the ordered muscle gain has me thinking RB? Could they be grooming him to be Ronnie Brown's replacement down the road? The wildcat is custom made for this guy because he is so multi-talented. I know it sounds nutz but could this be the answer to this riddle?

Actually, that WC is not a good fit for him at this time. First, the concept was that his ability as a QB would allow passing out of the position that RB plays in the WC. That's all well and good, but the fact is he is not a very good inside runner at this level and to be effective as the WCxQB, you have to have the threat to run most times. The formation is a run first formation. His lack of toughness as a an inside runner has been surprising and disheartening, I'm sure for the troika. If that is what he was drafted for (to be that WCxQB). If a runner can show teams that he can bust thru the middle of the formation, find that crack and due to it's uniqueness get past the initial defenders, with his quickness (although he's not a burner), he could be very effective (as RB is now). However, with his ability to pass the ball, suddenly the defense has a whole other concern even tho it's likely only a one man route... None of that has materialized because he hasn't shown the inside run ability. He also has been inaccurate in his passing, although I don't believe he showed that very often last year either.

The concept of him being a RB or WR or returner or whatever besides a QB is from us and the media. He also didn't show much as a QB last season although again he didn't really get the chances either. His frame is big enough to do something at this level. His ability to add some weight and become a little tougher will go a long way in determining if he makes some contribution this coming year.

There is no secret that I don't/didn't like the pick and that I feel he's going to waste a spot on the final roster for someone else who may have as much going for him or at least some potential that he hasn't shown so far. Is one year too short a time to ask this of him ?? I don't think so. A guy drafted for a specific role as high as he was drafted should have been able to produce. He wasn't being asked to be the proset QB or a WR or a RB or returner...just one role that he failed in....

So, to answer your question, to me he's a spread offense QB from the college level who's game has not translated to this level. A lot like Akili Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware and that ilk of QB. The only one of that ilk that has been drafted and shown some sense of NFL ability has been Vick. Despite his issues off the field, he was relatively successful, but moreso as a runner and not as a QB. His passing ability and ability to read Ds is still his Achilles Heel as an NFL QB. His speed and vision certainly are not.

So, he's not a QB. He's not a WR (not fast enough). He's not a RB (not quick or tough enough). He's not a returner. He hasn't shown enough progress to be an effective WCxQB. Adding the weight and strength may very well aid him in reaching that goal, but we have to wait and see once the pads come on to make any kind of analysis. The problem is that due to his lofty draft status, and being the choice of the troika, he probably will stay with the team for another year. I just don't see that he's shown either any skillset or any potential skillset that translates well to this level....

"miamiron wrote:

Baseball

Or CFL.

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WildCat & SpecialTeams for 2010

They'll create a package for him and give him another year (and you know this).