Will Ryan Tannehill Someday Become a Franchise QB?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shouright, Nov 18, 2012.

Will Ryan Tannehill Someday Become a Franchise QB?

  1. No

    14.8%
  2. Yes

    85.2%
  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Well, he is going to go up against 2 rock solid defenses in Seattle and SF, I don't expect him to do a lot in those games tbh.

    I see a young Qb who has arm talent and poise, but whose head is swimming atm, once he showed he can beat blitzes opponents are merely dropping into zone, this is like a MLB rook who can hit a fastball so they start throwing him curves and they either learn to handle it or just never develop.
     
  2. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    7,684
    3,323
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Ohio
    I believe its just as. Much defenses. Realized they werent afraid of deep ball and squatted on middle seem routes. Add to it more max@protects and a qb w/ a injured knee

    Its more than Tannehill
     
  3. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

    9,769
    3,436
    113
    Nov 24, 2007
    North of the Border
    Franchise QB? No.
    Average to decent NFL QB? Yes.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Disagree, play design usually just takes the short stuff underneath.

    THill rarely rarely airs a ball out.
     
  5. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    7,684
    3,323
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Ohio
    Lol if moore was starting we'd be conteenders?
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    I think so, at least for a Wildcard slot, all of those losses by 3 pts or less 10 games and 6 Td's, MMoore could easily have been more productive, but at best we'd more than likely be one and done.
     
    Clark Kent likes this.
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    13,969
    3,367
    113
    Jul 5, 2009
    Didn't you say like a month ago he was going to be a Franchise QB?
     
  8. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I voted no because the odds are stacked against it.

    He has all of the arm talent, athleticism and smarts to be one.

    It's all up to his want to at this point and I have no gauge for that.
     
  9. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,560
    4,133
    113
    May 9, 2008
    Not sure why everyone completely disregards Matt Moore as a talented player/QB. Guy has flashed potential plenty of times here in Miami and in Carolina. 2nd year in the league he went 4-1 as a starter. 8 tds and 0 ints. 3rd year (last in Carolina) fared much worse at 1-4 with 5td's and 10 ints. To be fair, that Carolina team absolutely sucked. They still do, even with another QB, who was touted as revolutionary a year ago lol.

    Last year he went 6-6 with 16tds and 9 ints. That 6-6 could of easily been 9-3. The Tim Tebow appreciation 3 minute domination fiasco (15-0 going into the final minutes), the Thanksgiving game against Dallas when our D **** the bed after Moore brought us back in the final minutes, and the New England game where our D blew a 17-0 lead entering the half. That doesn't even include the Giants game where we were up by 10 going into the fourth and our D once again buckled. Those are four potential W's for Moore.

    The kid has talent. Granted, he didn't light the world on fire (16td, 9int isn't great, certainly way above what any other QB has done since Marino, basically). However, going into last year, he had like 15 career starts, not even a full season. When he got his chance, he played well. As bad as our line has been this year, it wasn't as bad as last year with the duo of Carey and Colombo unable to block wind.

    I won't be shocked when Matt Moore goes to a team that gives him a chance, develops talent around him, and he becomes a playoff QB. I don't know what his ceiling is. I don't know if he'll ever be Superbowl caliber. But he'll win a bunch of games and be successful. Easily the best backup QB in the NFL, IMO. Easily could be a starter for a number of teams. Don't tell me someone like Arizona (Who I believe will sign him in the OS) wouldn't be infinitely better with this kid. Hopefully he'll become the bride he wishes to be lol.

    But yeah, I agree with you. When the season started, I saw no reason for Moore to play since the season was going to be a bust. But once Tannehill went down and he stepped in, I think it was pretty clear that he was the best option for us if playoff contention was serious. At this stage, I think he's handles pressure better, sees the redzone wayyy better, and has a **** ton of chemistry with the guys on offense. Watching him goof off on the sideline with Hartline and Bess, controlling Richie's aggression, etc...

    That said, Tannehill is our guy. He's an unusual rookie in that game time experience is something he desperately needs. And with the playoff hopes dead in the water, might as well ride that horse for the future.
     
  10. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    7,684
    3,323
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Ohio
    Moore may make us wc contenders but it would be 08 all over again. Beat badly rd 1 while missing out on RT growth & exp.


    Yes RT has struggleeed and has to take the next step and carry the team to a win. Buut tje panic I am seeeing in posts is baffling to me. Imo to say with anny degree of certainty that tannehill isnt a franchiisee qb & is a bust is panic mode thinking & blaming tannehilll for ddefensive woes is lunacy
     
  11. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

    8,141
    2,103
    113
    Nov 27, 2008
    Atlanta
    The reason I voted no is I am unfairly comparing him to Marino. Unless something clicks in the future I don't think he is going to be that good. When I say that good I am referring to Marino good. No Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers. A Philip Rivers, Eil Manning, Phil Simms type. Very Good but not over the top great. I hope I am wrong, but he doesn't seem to have that natural "IT" thing that the a fore mentioned QB's have/had. Maybe that develops not sure, but Qb's like Marino and those guys it was natural, they didn't learn it. JMO
     
  12. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    87,116
    54,275
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    You can be a franchise quarterback without being elite. Terry Bradshaw... and I believe he's in the hall of fame is he not?

    BTW, Shouright, you didn't vote. I see you...
     
  13. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,560
    4,133
    113
    May 9, 2008
    I think you could argue his talent is natural. Kid jumped into QB after being a 2 and a half year starter at WR. Played really well too. Beyond these couple of weeks, he was playing at a high level. He could still finish strong too.
     
  14. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

    2,155
    837
    0
    Aug 10, 2012
    See here is the problem. Marino comparisons are pointless.
    Once you get it through your head that we will NEVER HAVE ANOTHER QB THAT IS CLOSE TO DAN then you can start to properly evaluate what Tannehill is and what he might become with the proper development.
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    There should be an option for "probably, but our fan base needs an enema"
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    117,259
    74,932
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    yeah we do, with some tobasco.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  17. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

    7,480
    5,637
    113
    Mar 18, 2009
    While I think that is an extremely valid point (and one I'm inclined to agree with), all you have to do is look to Indy to see where it is possible to have a young phenom with the potential to be just as good (or, at least in the same conversation with) his predecessor.

    But, to your point, I agree that most fans assessment of ANYONE that plays the QB position for the Dolphins will inevitably be compared to #13. Fair or unfair, that's just the way it is.
     
  18. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

    9,769
    3,436
    113
    Nov 24, 2007
    North of the Border
    No.
    I said I was wrong about him being a bust.
     
  19. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

    8,141
    2,103
    113
    Nov 27, 2008
    Atlanta
    I think what we are seeing is a kid with above average intelligence, who is athletic. I believe in Ryan and I hope he finishes strong. If we look back at Marino's rookie year (really not fair to compare Tanne to the best QB ever), Marino read the defenses with ease. Even the vaunted Bears Defense was no match for Danny who hung 32 on them by the half. A defense I might add that was averaging only allowing 8 points a game. Has to be one of the best performances of any QB in the history of the NFL. That type of ability was natural, and of course the rocket arm and ability to put the ball anywhere at anytime even in-between 2 and 3 defenders. Man I'm gonna cry:cry:

    Man I hope this guy is all that

    What lucky fans we are if he is!~!
     
  20. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

    8,141
    2,103
    113
    Nov 27, 2008
    Atlanta
    Fair enough.

    Care to enlighten me as to what a "Franchise QB looks like?

    Because Gosh Damn if Dan Marino wasn't the poster boy I don't know who is!!

     
  21. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

    8,141
    2,103
    113
    Nov 27, 2008
    Atlanta
    Tannehill is going to be compared to Marino because Marino was the greatest QB ever to play the game. He had it all. Every tangible and intangible there is/was to have he had it. Dan Marino is "FRANCHISE".

    Man that av gets me every time. My vote for best on this board!!
     
    The G Man likes this.
  22. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

    3,893
    3,087
    113
    Mar 6, 2010
    Obviously, all of the QB's you mentioned are franchise QB's. Let's not forget that all of them had championship defenses and great skill players around them when they won their super bowls. Eli drove his team down the field to help them win football games. Had it not been for his DL, he wouldn't be there in the 1st place. The year Peyton won it, they had Bob Sanders as defensive MVP. How many championships has Brady won without Bruschi, Harrison, Seymour and McGinnest? None. Rogers walked into the best WR/TE situation in the NFL. Not to mention having Matthews and Woodson.

    The point here is that Tannehill doesn't have a championship defense behind him nor the playmakers that all of those QB's had or have. We need to continue to build a team behind Tannehill before we can see what he is capable of. Coming into the season, he had the worst set of offensive playmakers in the NFL. While our defense can stop the run, it struggles pressuring the QB and covering.

    He shows flashes with his poise, confidence and ability to shake off bad plays. I'd like to see him make a few more plays with his feet but understand he is still raw and learning the position. He is at least a year, maybe two years, ahead of where the most optimistic fan or analyst thought he would be. For only having 19 college starts, I'd say he looks pretty good so far.
     

Share This Page