Will quarterback for food: Why Culpepper, Leftwich can't find work

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Culpepper can't find work because even when he was healthy, he was a marginal player. He was a guy that got by because his mobility compensated for his poor recognition and intelligence skills and once that knee went out the window, so did his game.

Leftwich can't find work because he has the slowest release/throwing motion I've ever seen. Couple that with his lack of mobility and you have a guy that needs a line made up of Anthony Munoz, Bob Kuechenberg, Art Shell, Dan Dierdorf and Larry Allen in order to get the football out of his hand.

Slowest African American Quarterback I have ever seen. My god, what happen to his genes?

I thought it was because they both sucked:pointlol:

"steveincolorado wrote:

I thought it was because they both sucked:pointlol:

And then we swapped for him Trent Green. :pity:

"Silverphin wrote:

And then we swapped for him Trent Green. :pity:

You mean scrambled eggs?

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Trent Green was (and still could be if not for the concusions) a good quarterback. He has had twice the career Leftwich and Culpepper had combined.

I think that's some overstatement there, Culpepper was the best quarterback in the game next to Manning. Green can never lay claim to that.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

No way Culpepper was the best. Look at C-Pep post Moss and look at C-Pep's sack and fumble numbers, something not calculated into QB rating.

Green was the most consistent quarterback from years 2003-2005 as he was the only QB to throw for 4000 yards in each of those 3 seasons.

You can argue that Green was better, but I don't know where the idea comes from that Culpepper was crap before the injury, he had seasons that were amazing. The guy got hurt and without his mobility he can't be the same qb, its not all Moss.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

No way Culpepper was the best. Look at C-Pep post Moss and look at C-Pep's sack and fumble numbers, something not calculated into QB rating.

Green was the most consistent quarterback from years 2003-2005 as he was the only QB to throw for 4000 yards in each of those 3 seasons.

When you take into account rushes, Culpepper had a turnover rating slightly less than Tom Brady per touch. I did a huge write up about that a couple years back. No idea what the numbers would look like after the injury though.

The turnover machine label just happens to be there because he handled the ball a lot.

Heh, I'm not surprised at all.

Culpepper was a clear liability while he was here.
The weaknesses people started to pick up in his game post Moss era were the same problems he had in college.

He can't read a defense to save his life, he holds onto the ball way too long and his scrambling abilities are now gone due to a bum knee. Most of his success came after a play would break down because of his scrambling ability and his ability to shrug off would be sackers cause he was the size of a house himself.

Anyone STILL going to argue what a mistake it was for Miami to let him go and question whether this franchise knew what they were doing playing hardball with him?

"Alex44 wrote:

When you take into account rushes, Culpepper had a turnover rating slightly less than Tom Brady per touch. I did a huge write up about that a couple years back. No idea what the numbers would look like after the injury though.

The turnover machine label just happens to be there because he handled the ball a lot.

One thing you can say about Culpepper is that he has a tremendous completion percentage. I believe the highest in the history of the league. Now you have to wonder how much of that was contributed by Randy Moss who is arguably the most talented player to ever hit the NFL.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

I think his stats were lofty and made him look better then he really is. We witnessed it first hand when he came to Miami and had some games that looked alright statistically, but we know he was playing terrible. For instance, take that Houston game where he was sacked multiple times. He had a high completion percentage and racked up some decent yardarge on some 3rd and very long dump off plays that didn't equal first downs.

I always thought the people that said he was over rated in Minnesota were wrong, but I believe them now.

That's post injury though. I've seen a bunch of his early games, and most of them were just about as good as the stats show.

Now I will be the first to say he is washed up and the injury took it out of him. He did have it at one point though. Just not in Miami.