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Why not us??

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan40, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. dolfan40

    dolfan40 Well-Known Member

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    After all those years of being medicore, it looks like we are finally getting to the pormise land. Tannehill will get even better as he comes back from injury and our defense looks good right now! I don't see why we can not be like the seahawks in their superbowl run, now is the time to start a Dynasty to show who we really are, a proud franchise and the only perfect season, it's fun to be only 24 years old to witness many years to come..i follow the team since 08 and this is the best team i witnessed.

    Lets go from Germany
     
  2. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Why not us? Because our defense isn't good enough yet.
     
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  3. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    I think our defense is plenty good enough. Our only weak spot is at linebacker because we are starting two guys that are basically rookies. They will improve greatly around mid year like most rookies do. The secondary is leading the league in interceptions and the dline has been playing well. Just because were giving up yardage does not equate to them being a bad defense, total points is what matters and on that we are 6th best in the NFL.
     
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  4. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    This team finally looks like it is turning a corner, but they have to beat New England in Foxborough this week. They have to do it NOW. It won't be an easy task because for different reasons this is a must win game for both teams. New England cant afford to go 1-3 with us at 4-0 and a tie breaker in the division.
     
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  5. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    You have to be kidding, right? Our defense is the best in the league in the areas that matter the most- turnovers and points scored.
     
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  6. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Slow your roll! Enjoy the 3-0 start but don’t get yourself excited for a potential collapse. When we’re 9-2 start getting excited
     
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  7. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think everyone is putting way too much importance on this upcoming game with the Pats. This board is going to be in full implosion mode if the Fins don't win.
     
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  8. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Those are of very dubious sustainability though, and will likely regress some. That's not to say we will become bad, but we are likely riding a bit higher now than we will end up.

    The game is trending toward high powered, fast scoring passing offenses with lots of playmakers. We have that. If Tannehill can keep the ball secure, and our playmakers can continue to make plays and put up points, we can survive a defensive regression fairly well.
     
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  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    We're three games in. Get back to me about 8 games in and we'll see if those numbers hold up. I don't think they will. IMHO our defense isn't good enough yet. We need a couple more players.
     
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  10. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I think you're missing the obvious point- every team is 3 games in and so far, we've been better than 31 others. What will five more weeks prove? That we hadn't messed up enough to show our true colors? Or that they had a few bad games so the first 3 don't count? It makes no sense and it's a very negative way to look at things.

    Today, our defense is excellent. Maybe that changes but it's silly to mentally penalize them for what hasn't happened yet.
     
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  11. jerry graham

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    No reason not to win this game if the team starts off hot. I do not like they have been sluggish on offense and playing form behind isn't an option in this game. NE def has played poorly and they have no reason to get better. Hit brady cover gronk and the screen and things happen imo.
     
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  12. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    New England looked SLOW as a team against the Lions. In theory, our offense is built to just wreck them - see the kind of gamplan the Eagles dialed up in the Super Bowl. Playmakers and speed just running wild.

    Our defense is a question - specifically the passrush after losing our depth and with Wake maybe slow. If they can pressure Brady, and we blanket Gronk, we win that side of the game handily.

    The Lions are NOT a good team. Stafford is basically establish Tannehill. We have similar but faster receivers, as good or better OL, and better RBs. This is the kind of game to unleash Drake, or get Ballage involved.
     
  13. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I saw a quote by some famous coach that said something to the effect "after 4 games some teams aren't as good as the appear and some teams aren't as bad as they appear". I think that is why you take 8 games to see. And that's why I'm not putting EVERYTHING on winning this weeks game. A division rival, on the road against a historically very good team at home makes for a very competitive situation.
     
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  14. Tin Indian

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    I agree on most of that but I think since Drake had such a big game last time against them NE will be looking to shut down the running game. Whether they can depends on how well our o line opens holes.
     
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  15. Tin Indian

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    Take everything out of it with the exception that it is an all important divisional game and if we win we are up a full 3 games and effectively 4 because of tie breakers and that is why this game is so darn big for both teams at only week 4.
     
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  16. jerry graham

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    You have to feel like ya did 2 yrs ago about this team. They have found a way to make big plays. The def actually takes the ball away. I like that allot. Yes its still early, but remember this team won 6 games last yr with a crap qb and malcontents. We are half way there already. Losing Sitton hurt allot but they are adjusting to that. Micah, Baker, And Mcmillian were drafted to stop this offense right here. Howard is playing out his mind. This all being said the offense has to set the tone in this game. Their defense isn't good and if they cant exploit that could be a long game.
     
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  17. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    On a related note, I just saw that EVERY "Expert" on ESPN picked the Pats this week. Every single one.
    These clowns just don't learn.
     
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  18. jerry graham

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    Ya gotta win up there to get respect. That should be the message. This team has to play 60 mins and step on em. Do that and wait and see what espn says. They will turn on the pats like rabid dogs.
     
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  19. KeyFin

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    I agree with you and the other posts- Howard and Jones will obviously not bat down every pass this season and create multiple turnovers per game. It would be great but that's just not reality- our worst defensive game has yet to come. Using your same quote though, it also says that we haven't seen the best from our offense either.

    So far, the D has absolutely carried us this year. I don't think that will be the case in all 16 games though.
     
  20. Finatik

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    Or we could be as good as the record indicates. This week goes a long way to more street cred if we win. If we lose it will be "same old Dolphins" even if that isn't necessarily true.
     
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  21. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    No one is penalizing them, just analyzing them. If you disagree, feel free, but you're not going to argue me into changing what I see.
     
  22. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    this is what i been saying, who cares about stats and stuff wait until the ride bucks you off then start saying when how why and where enjoy the 3-0 and being 2 games ahead of everyone in the afc east. Start complaining if we go 3-3 but at 3-0 nothing to complain about we have not won anything in 30 years ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  23. bigballa2102

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    A++++
     
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  24. KeyFin

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    I look at it this way- the Pats in NE "is supposed to be" the toughest game of the season on our schedule. Yes, Cinci and the Bears are no slouches. Green Bay is always dangerous. The Jets and Bills are always a slug-fest. But this one game is the one we always circle on our calendars as the one that is almost impossible to win. So if we do win this week, hopefully the narrative changes that we still have a ton to prove or that it's just been blind luck so far.
     
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  25. Dorfdad

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    It’s hard to vote against history. a very talented well coached team up against the ropes at home versus a divisional rival and with a history of not losing 3 games in a row in over 15 years. Hard to ignore the facts.

    Can we win sure? But the odds are not in our favor. I’d take a closer look at Vegas line than any reporter IMHO if I was guessing a win / loss.
     
  26. jerry graham

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    Never tell me the odds! LOL.
     
  27. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    you and i know it will be blind luck, if we beat NE it will be because they are injured and have no talent around Brady and it will be Brady is old brady likes men talk, something along the lines of how the pats are under the gun because of missing pieces. it wont be because of miami
     
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  28. Irishman

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    Shouldn't that be 11-0?
     
  29. Irishman

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    What Regression? I only see Defensive growth!
     
  30. Irishman

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    What more proof could you possibly want? :dolphin: :omg:
     
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  31. Irishman

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    Those guys are not supposed to be "politically correct". They are supposed to know what they are talking about!!!
     
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  32. KeyFin

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    Currently the spread is 6.5 and 52% of the wagers are on New England. That also means that 48% of gamblers are picking Miami...which doesn't go along with your initial thoughts. And I truly believe that the only reason we're seeing that line is the 15 year stat you gave (on top of not winning there in 7+ years).

    I really don't see those as anything important though for two reasons-

    1) We usually play the Pats at home in December, often in week 16 or 17. The cold plays in their favor and it's not cold yet.

    2) This is a very different Miami team from last year. In fact, this team was one catch from overtime in 2016 and having a chance to sweep the Pats...after Tannehill's best half ever as a pro. I just think he wants it more than Brady does at this point.
     
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  33. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    ESPN? Since when?
     
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  34. Surfs Up 99

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    Why not us? This is a tough question. I think if we were healthy then we have a decent shot to make the playoffs. However, even though injuries are no excuse, it looks like we are losing some key pieces. I understand it’s next man up, but do we have the depth to sustain our momentum? Hopefully we are able to overcome. If we can, I expect our team confidence to climb even higher.
     
  35. Fin-O

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    If we win this week, I'm looking into flights to Miami for the home playoff game we will be hosting, just not sure which round. But 4-0 in that division with a wounded Pat's team? It would be 90% barring a major injury.
     
  36. IdrA

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    I agree with the first two posts lol!
     
  37. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I personally am in no way (with any confidence) going to say that we should win this game in New England. I just don't see this happening. I love being 3-0, and I would be a total believer if we somehow Rocky Balboa'd our way to a win up there, but I'm not buying it. What I do want to see is a team that can compete for four quarters on both sides of the ball. Let's get Drake involved, let's run the ball, let's get to Brady. I mean...if we do those things and lose I'll be ok. If we lose 48-3 and we're **** on both sides...yeah....I'm gonna lose my cool and blow **** up with a Skip Bayless hot take because I would think we're better than that.
    So I guess.. I'm fine with a moral victory as far as this game goes. Pats are gonna come out fighting. This is Foxboro, this isn't a guarantee nor should we expect to win. We need to just play our game, stat competitive, not get stupid penalties and have a chance late in the fourth.
    With all that said and me expecting our first L of the season....I do think we're a playoff team this year IF we can stay healthy.
     
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  38. Irishman

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    Umm, sadly you make a good point.

    You would think their performance should be a factor in their keeping their jobs; just like football coaches and players.
     
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  39. Finatik

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    It doesn't apply to politicians, the press and weathermen.
     
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  40. Grippa

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    The topic brought back a familiar voice..
    RIP Tony “fist pump” Sparano
    Gone but not forgotten.
     
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