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Why Is FB a "Need" Position for Miami

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by Da 'Fins, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So, we have Javorski Lane who seems decent enough to me. And, really, are FB's that vital and is there that big a differentiation between Lane and another? Really?

    Yet, I've seen several locations have FB as a position of "need" for Miami. Mel Kiper (who never seems to draft well for Miami, imo - though I like Mel, I've never thought he understood the team), even has Miami taking a FB at 3/82! Are you kidding, Mel? With RB & TE still untapped in the draft?

    Just not getting this.
     
  2. Not So Fast

    Not So Fast Well-Known Member

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    No idea. FB aren't even used that widely in the NFL anymore. Spending a 3rd round pick on one makes no sense. Prehaps, Mel is thinking of Miami getting a good shortage back, which isn't a bad idea, but a FB is unnecessary to accomplish that goal.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Kiper is usually massively off base when it comes to the Dolphins

    Darius Bey comes to mind.
     
  4. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Which fullback does he give to us?
     
  5. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    To be fair, you aren't going to use the FB from Harvard as strictly a blocker if you take him. If used right, he could be as useful as any TE we take at that spot.
     
  6. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Kyle Juszczyk. And that's not who he is mocking to us, that's who he would take (of the players left) if he was our GM. See his rule #4 for this piece:
     
  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Is this from the ESPN Insider that we have to pay for to see?
     
  8. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Don't we have Charles Clay for that role? Seems like a massive waste of a draft pick to take a H-Back. Might as well just draft a TE.
     
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  9. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I never said the draft pick couldn't be used better, I just said he could potentially be a better pick than any TE there.
     
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  10. Stitches

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    Yes.

     
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  11. Disgustipate

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    I think the Dolphins need to consider whittling down Jorvorskie Lane unless he's improved this off-season. Charles Clay doesn't have the same upside as a run blocker, but in practice he is pretty much as good and Lane isn't going to threaten on wheel routes 30 yards down the field or be able to play +/- 50% of his snaps in the slot.

    I was kind of disappointed the Dolphins didn't consider one of the fullbacks this off-season. Greg Jones is quite good, and it's still possible Vonta Leach will be on the market.

    I don't think this is true at all, almost all teams have a fullback. The Dolphins use quite a bit H-Back and fullback. Only a few teams don't use a lead blocker.
     
  12. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Doubtful, at best. And considering we already have Lane and Clay on the roster, hardly worth mentioning. I can't even imagine a realistic situation where a FB from this draft (and most others, unless there's an extreme/unusual FB talent available) would be of greater value than a TE.

    Jmo, but I have zero interest in spending a draft pick on a FB.
     
  13. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    He is 6'1 so I doubt it. Maybe round 5 or 6 but in round 3?
     
  14. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I agree with you. He could be used in more different ways. Even run the ball sometimes, and he is a better blocker than Clay.
     
  15. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    LMAO at espn insider charging people to read there propaganda, personal opinion, and fluff pieces
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    Jorvorskie Lane was not as good as people thought he was. Particularly his lead blocking. And when they tried to give him the ball in short yardage, he fumbled. A lot. And didn't even convert on some of the occasions he didn't fumble. He's great with a load of steam out in the flat after he's caught the ball...but that's about it.

    I would absolutely be looking at Lonnie Pryor and Kyle Juszczyk.
     
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  18. padre31

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    Eh, do think Lane needs some competition, but objectively he was more or less out of football so a learning curve is to be expected.
     
  19. alen1

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    Juszczyk is a good player. Can pass pro well, can run and catch. I like him. I think more teams need to use fullbacks that can be assets in pass pro and as pass catchers.
     
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  20. Da 'Fins

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    Sure a FB to compete or win out would be nice (in the 5th - 7th round) but in the 3rd round? Don't see the value in that with other needs. Unless you really think you are going to feature a FB.
     
  21. alen1

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    It depends on how you're going to use him. A lot of what teams have done recently is use split-back sets like Bill Walsh did with his WCO. If you can get a guy who can catch, run and block, essentially serving as a beefed up h-back, then why not?
     
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  22. ckparrothead

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    I love Juszczyk but Lonnie Pryor would be my preference for exactly that.
     
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  23. jim1

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    This is a very deep draft, and in the absence of evidence that the Dolphins would indeed use the FB in a more prominent fashion I'd rather spend the draft pick elsewhere.

    As to late round TE possibilities, I'd rather look at Zach Maynard and other likely late round TEs than a FB, including this guy here:

    http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/04/23/willsons-stock-for-nfl-draft-on-the-rise/

    6-5, 250, ran a 4.47 at his pro day and is a highly regarded baseball player in the Blue jays farm system. Not bad. Sounds like Les Brown physical ability with real football experience.
     

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