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Who's really that concerned about the Offence after the Jags game?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DolPhinPhan7, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm on the record saying we would win three strait before the bears, Im not being negative, I just feel we have to do some things differently to become the best this particular offense can be..my suggestions are not ignoring anything, just wanting little more of what were good at.
     
  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    i missed the first 4 mins of the game and the last 8..

    and I'm not just talking about read option runs PH..Im talking about a synergy of 4 dimensions to start the ball game.
     
  3. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    RT said it best. "Unacceptable"
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    all this pressers go the same

    follow up question...''what is unacceptable'

    ryan..our performance''

    what do you have to do to make it acceptable'

    ryan..play better''

    lol..
     
  5. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I get you. We just have two diff philosophies when it comes to calling a game.

    For me, I don't wanna see our best stuff vs Jax, I like our Ds chances of holding them to low number so there's no need to empty the full clip, it only gives future opponents more film to study.
     
  6. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did you see Jones give up that TD? Man it was awful lol. If we are gonna talk how to improve start there, I guarantee Rivers doesn't miss that throw...
     
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  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    Rivers might miss that throw.

    Even great quarterbacks miss throws.
     
  8. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    I was most certainly offended by that offence. The Defence is another story entirely.
     
  9. VManis

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    Did Lazor/Philbin know that Colledge had a migrane going into the game? If not how were they suppose to scheme for something they weren't aware of?
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    Is this post serious?
     
  11. vt_dolfan

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    Lol..yep
     
  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    DJ...Omar was breaking down the game after watching it on tape..and he said College was getting man handled on every single snap. At one point...he had trouble walking back to the huddle. Said it was the worst hed ever seen.
     
  13. IdrA

    IdrA Rebuilding for Eternity.

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    This is a good answer. If anything this game can be considered an anomaly. Fins offense avg 25 ppg. That's just outside the top 10 for the year.

    Now.. if we play the Bolts like we played the Jags. We're going to get thrashed. I don't think Rivers is likely to hand us a couple pick 6s. O and D need to show up if we hope to beat the Bolts.
     
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  14. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Without reading any of the comments above, I was worried about the defense more then the O.They couldn't get off the damn field in the 1st half.
    After the game, most of the networks were talking about how D won the game for us.
    LOL well, of course they did. Jags ran like 38 O plays before the second half begun.... They had enough opportunities to make a PLAY or two.
     
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  15. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah, I was pissed about the defense. Sure, the pick sixes look good, but Jones got toasted and should have given up a td, and they ran all over us, and we couldn't stop a third down to save our lives. The defense got lucky that it was Bortles at QB.
     
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  16. Piston Honda

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    I wouldn't say it was luck. IMO the gMeplan on D was to blitz, pressure the QB into bad decisions and then capitalize. Even before the pick 6s Bortles had thrown some awful passes that were nearly picked.
     
  17. Fin D

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    Even more than that, they actually practice returning ints.
     
  18. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    I'd rather not give up long, time-consuming, ToP distorting drives in the hopes of getting turnovers to save the day (and a missed TD catch)...it worked, but it was the Jags.
     
  19. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    I could care less how we look to a degree. We will have games where we look ****ty, but if we can win those games then it is a positive. There are no style points, just wins and losses. Keep winning games any way we can to be honest.
     
  20. MikeHoncho

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    Perhaps the biggest thing people are overlooking about that game is the team came out of it injury-free.
     
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  21. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    Damn good point.
     
  22. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    WADR, no one was asking for that either. I'm just saying it wasn't entirely luck, because we practice for it, that's all.
     
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  23. djphinfan

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    my bad, rephrase.. why trust pocket throws early, why when you have a skill set like tannehills..move him early so their not taking target practice when their fu":in playing like crazed dogs..

    lazor and philbin said he knew they {jags dine} would come out in the first quarter like maniacs, So i guess keeping tannehill in one spot is a better idea then deception with a moving pocket and a mobile qb.

    we knew they were coming and we served up the tall lanky not so swift laterally white boy.

    and what happenes when you keep tall lanky player who is lethal on the run to both sides static in the pocket....sacks and tipped passes..drive killers.
     
  24. dolfan40

    dolfan40 Well-Known Member

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    Well what if just played basic plays and safed some new ones for the Chargers?
     
  25. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I've made my point..Im good, if you can't see my pov cause you think I'm being to critical at the wrong time, then after all these years you have misunderstood me..I want to be a great team.
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Honestly, there should have been no need.

    I honestly don't think you are grasping how bad College did and how they were not ready for it.

    If they knew he was battling migraines, they wouldn't have called different plays, they would have taken him out and he probably would have been inactive.

    I am not anit-rollouts. They would have been fine calls. Just that, they should have been able to throw the ball in the pocket. Like they did once College was taken out.
     
  27. djphinfan

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    Why do you just assume that we should just call plays from the pocket, on the road, against a team that we knew was good on the front line, and has shown a trend of coming out like gangbusters?

    If that doesn't give my take any credence I don't know what else to say..

    Lol..it's so damn obvious..

    Hell, Look what they did to us....they knew how good we were on defense, they knew we were gonna come after the rookie, so what did they do that made them so effective on offense early in the game?

    Like I said, you keep Tannehill static in the pocket your going to pay for it, especially on the road, especially against good lines, especially because escaping pressure is not his forte, and running and throwing is..

    Move the pocket early and often damn it..get this kid to understand that running for a first down can do so many things to a defense and for your own personal game.
     
  28. Pauly

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    My biggest concern isn't the offence.

    My biggest concerns is a lack of consistency of effort on both sides of the ball. When the switch is on we can beat any team in this league.

    However, in order to win a Super Bowl you have to play at least 3 games in a row with the switch on during the playoffs. I just don't see this team doing that under Philbin.
     
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  29. Alex13

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    my biggest concern within this thread...its OffenSe and DefenSe...
     
  30. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    If anyone is not concerned about the offense, you're not paying attention. Bill Lazor has been calling horrible plays, continuously trying to throw the ball when we should be running it. Twice I recall us going 3 and out and all three plays called? Yep, let's throw the ball. Lamar Miller had only 14 carries in Sunday's game compared to Tannehill's 29 pass attempts. I keep pointing out time and time again that magic number of 25 rushes per game in order for us to win.

    Take the 2 pick 6's off the board and our offense put up a mind boggling 13 points, the same number of points the hapless Jags put up.

    Our defense has been playing their butts off this season. It's time the entire offensive unit does the same, to include Lazor and the rest of the coaching staff
     
  31. Alex13

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    jesus....why should we take the 2 pick six's off the board, why in the hell should we do that, both units represent the miami dolphins...this defense is playing in the same system for 3 years now, the offense is still having some growing pains learning, but if you don't see any improvement from shermans unit then i don't know....
     
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  32. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Back to the OP. This team is not playing fine. You called the media person a tool because he doesn't agree with your thoughts. I guess half the fan base are tools every year, because we all disagree on different parts of the team.
     
  33. Alex44

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    I disagree. Lazor has been nothing short of brilliant. You can nitpick, but in reality we would have scored another TD in a real game. It was obvious Lazor was working on our passing game late, even down inside the five.

    Those plays are valuable experience for the passing game.
     
  34. DolPhinPhan7

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    Totally agree. That late INT never happens if they thought for a minute the game was in doubt.
     
  35. brandon27

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    Id say I'm a bit concerned, but at the same time when you look at how the game went, the Jags moved the ball well on us, ate up clock, and our defense ended up with a pick 6 that put the Jags offense right back on the field after a fairly long possession IIRC. So... I'm not overly concerned with the offence. They had only two posessions. Two 3 and outs sucked, yes, no doubt, but look at that in context of the game too, Colledge whiffed several times, bigtime on both drives that killed them. Once we got him out of there things picked up. I'm a bit more concerned with how well the Jags moved the ball on us. I know the D really won us that game, but the fact the Jags moved it so well concerned me alot too.
     
  36. Fin4Ever

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    Why does spelling bother you so much? You know what people mean so why try to embarrass them? Just curious my Dolfan brother
     
  37. Fin4Ever

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    Sorry Alex 13..my bad..I misread the post
     
  38. Alex13

    Alex13 Welcome to the NEW Miami Club Member

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    i tried to be funny thats all....:(


    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus using Tapatalk
     
  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    wucha talking bout Alex..both are spelled with an S
     
  40. Fin4Ever

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    It was funny...after I reread the post :)
     

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