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What's wrong with Channing Crowder?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ATVZ400, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Whats wrong with him?

    Hes a read and react type linebacker...the problem is, hes not very quick at his reads, and not very fast in his reation, combine that with limited strength and flexability...
     
  3. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    He is slow and is constantly chasing plays from behind.
    When he does make contact it is never violent, and in pass coverage he coldnt cover a Nun....in a hobbit.......
     
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  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Sorry, I'm not being a spelling nazi, but that mistype was hilarious.:up:
     
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  5. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    But other than that....he's awesome...lol

    killin me dj
     
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  6. Motion

    Motion New Member

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    Tell that to Nathan Jones :lol:
     
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  7. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Touche, but that's only cause it was on accident.
    no way he hits somebody that hard on purpose :shifty:
     
  8. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I thought they were going to have to carry Jones off on two different stretchers full of parts....
     
  9. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    The LB position needs to be upgraded at both ILB and OLB. Too bad we didn't get Patrick Willis when we had the chance. I am not slammimg Porter or J.Taylor but there needs to be some youth infused at the position. Some players with their best days ahead of them instead of behind them. Crowder is who he is, but definitely not the take charge middle linebacker who can change games. A good core of linebackers would go a long way toward making the Dolphins defense more potent. A good middle linebacker would make the other linebackers better and would improve the defense as a whole.
     
  10. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    He is highly allergic to turnovers...never had them-never will
     
  11. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    The article states that Crowder "only has 5 tackles in two games"...

    To be fair to crowder the Colts ran only 30+ plays. At least 4 were scores, so no tackles there, probably another couple times the player ran out of bounds. Throw in all the missed tackles and there just weren't that many tackles to be had. It wasn't his fault!!!!


    ^^ how was that for spin?
     
  12. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Congratulations: you're a Republican.

    :chuckle:
     
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  13. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Step to slow to hit a RB behind the line of scrimmage,and....
    Can't cover a bed with a sheet.
    Pretty much sums it up.
     
  14. TJamesW_Phinfan

    TJamesW_Phinfan New Member

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    I don't know about the never violent contact part. He darn near knocked a guy out on one play. Oh sure it was a helmet to hekmet smash on his own team mate one of our strugging secondary fellas but hey heck of an effort still the same. :up:

    Thats one of the big things I miss about Zach. Guy had a nose for the ball and got to it quick. I wish we could find a couple young guys with instincts like that. Crowder so often seems lost or winded or ... I don't know what.
     
  15. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    At least we know he'll never a sick player.


    ;)
     
  16. Conuficus

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    Something I mentioned in the "Keys to the Game" was how often do the Dolphins actually ask Taylor or Porter to drop back into coverage? I have seen some plays during the Colts game where Taylor was aksed to drop back into the flats and dropped down the hashes. The few times he did drop back our underneath coverage was much better and Manning had to hold the ball a bit longer. We didn't get a great deal of pressure, but we managed to cover better as well.
     
  17. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    I never knew Antonio Gates wears V-Necks. Thanks Channing.
     
  18. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i'm gonna play a madden game and bench crowder right now!
     
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  19. azfinfanmang

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    I think your on to something there Josephe. :up:

    Of course, Crowder is your typical Democrat.
    Goes through the motions, talks a lot but still expects everybody else to carry the load for him :up:
     
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  20. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The question is flawed, there is nothing the matter with Channing Crowder, this is the same player we have seen for years now, only now the games "count" more as we all have expectations coming off of 11-5.

    Can anyone honestly say CC missing that tackle on Dallas Clark that went for a TD is something we have not seen before?
     
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  21. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Exactly....

    You get what you pay for......how can you complain about the taste of a generic cola when you were too cheap to buy a pepsi?
     
  22. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    More or less, I'm not saying Crowder is a scrub, I am saying he is still the non playmaking ILB he has always been, they have sent him on blitzes this year.

    He has to yet to have a hand a Qb's jersey on a Blitz, that is Channing C to the "T".
     
  23. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    BINGO on all counts, and I'd also throw in limited speed...and quickness.
     
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  24. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Honestly, if it weren't for that KC game last year where the defense played terrible with him out, I doubt he even gets re-signed
     
  25. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm...I do not neccessariy agree with that Mr. C, Crowder was step for step with Dallas Clark, the problem with CC is more a question of Explosiveness, as in he is devoid more or less of it.

    Put it this way, against the Chargers Ray Lewis knifed into the backfield and tackled Sproiles ending the game, a play Crowder rarely if ever makes, but Lewis is what 35?
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I could comment, but don't want to turn this thread into a political discussion.:wink2:

    If we are gonna hijack a thread for something like that, we should wait for an opening in one of the 3 million "Why Pat White is already a bust and/or was a reach at #44" threads. :cry:
     
  27. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    And Ray Lewis was a free agent that we could have pursued... even at 35... instead we got the locker room joker back...
     
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  28. padre31

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    Well, cannot really argue with that, I will say that apparently the staff has come to their senses and are prepping Charlie Anderson to play ILB on passing downs.

    Crowder is just a reach as a 3 down linebacker, think about this, Akin A had more fumble recoveries last year than Crowder has had in 4 years.
     
  29. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I blame Teddy Ginn for that pick :lol:
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    IMO, he is most lacking in instincts and reactions, which makes his average LB speed seem slower. He can't outrun his lack of quick reactions. Maybe after John Offerdahl, Bryan Cox, and Zach Thomas, we are spoiled in expecting all our MLB/ILB to have similar instincts and reactions.
     
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  31. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Crowder is "synaptically challenged"
     
  32. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Yeah, he lacks instinct and either does not spend the time Zach Thomas did studying film, or is not as effective in his film study, or does not analyze what he sees on the field as efficiently.

    He's probably doing everything he can to be as good as he can be; he's just limited.
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I think you're right, and I also blame Teddy for global warming. :pointlol:
     
  34. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    as most have said ... we had these same discussions when we were debating why we would resign CC ... most of us couldn't see why we would -- UNLESS we were keeping him as a #2 and were going to sign a better ILB ... but of course, we signed CC and did not sign an upgrade ...
     
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  35. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think it's being spoiled to hope your ILB can be a difference maker every now and then. I can't help but wonder why the FO was content resigning an average LB to be the starter. A good point was made about Ray Lewis being available. Use the hall of famer and draft a rookie to take over when he retires.
     

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