What if there's no 2020 Season?

UCONN, which now plays as an independant, has chosen to close down their football program for the 2020 season.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

UCONN, which now plays as an independant, has chosen to close down their football program for the 2020 season.

And Notre Dame joined the ACC for the year to play Miami, Clemson, etc. I thought that was a pretty cool move.

"KeyFin wrote:

And Notre Dame joined the ACC for the year to play Miami, Clemson, etc. I thought that was a pretty cool move.

I think that they should be forced to join a conference full time anyways, though I think that it should be the Big 10. I'm never going to give up on my dream of WVU getting into the ACC.

The NCAA said today that any player who opts out of college football this season will retain an extra year on their scholarship, should they choose to. At the moment, the players who are opting out don't seem to be the type who will come back, but that could of course change dramatically and rapidly as we get closer to the start of the season.

They could also make the call to cancel all fall sports other than football this month, and have the power to cancel football conference championships as well.

And now the NCAA has in fact canceled sports championships at the D2 and D3 levels, with the top tier pending.

At the moment, 57 college football teams, most below D1, have already cancelled their 2020 season. That's roughly a third of the teams in D2 and D3. For now, the rest can still play regular season games without a post season if they choose to, but the expectation is that many more will follow suit.

The PAC12 is preparing to offer loans upward of 83m per school should the college football season be cancelled.

It will be interesting to see how schools deal with the lost revenue from cancelling sports...not sure how much it affects lower schools, but D1 sports, specifically football, bring in massive amounts of money.

"resnor wrote:

It will be interesting to see how schools deal with the lost revenue from cancelling sports...not sure how much it affects lower schools, but D1 sports, specifically football, bring in massive amounts of money.

Asking coaches to give up most of their salary for 2020 would be a great start.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Asking coaches to give up most of their salary for 2020 would be a great start.

I'd think they'd have to? For instance, if Div 1 gets cancelled, how could Alabama afford to pay Saban without the revenue generated from playing the season? I think Alabama pulls in like $150 million from the football program?

"resnor wrote:

I'd think they'd have to? For instance, if Div 1 gets cancelled, how could Alabama afford to pay Saban without the revenue generated from playing the season? I think Alabama pulls in like $150 million from the football program?

I agree with you. But I'm not convinced that it would happen easily. There are at least 15 coaches who make more than 5m per season, and more than 25 who make at least 4m. None of them are going to end up on the street if they can't get paid in 2020. In fact, I would bet that there are boosters who would willingly give them tons of cash should it happen. College football is ridiculously dirty.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I agree with you. But I'm not convinced that it would happen easily. There are at least 15 coaches who make more than 5m per season, and more than 25 who make at least 4m. None of them are going to end up on the street if they can't get paid in 2020. In fact, I would bet that there are boosters who would willingly give them tons of cash should it happen. College football is ridiculously dirty.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing- I'd be more worried about the guy selling programs or the girl in the concession stand that's making minimum wage plus tips. If you earned $3-5M last year but still need a weekly paycheck to make it through the season, then you did something very wrong in 2019.

Side note- NCAA players can make money off their likeness this season, can't they? I'm wondering if that will take some money out of each school's hands that would have come from boosters/sponsors. I'm not sure if that's in effect yet but it could be a "perfect storm" for college programs that need the money.

"KeyFin wrote:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing- I'd be more worried about the guy selling programs or the girl in the concession stand that's making minimum wage plus tips. If you earned $3-5M last year but still need a weekly paycheck to make it through the season, then you did something very wrong in 2019.

Side note- NCAA players can make money off their likeness this season, can't they? I'm wondering if that will take some money out of each school's hands that would have come from boosters/sponsors. I'm not sure if that's in effect yet but it could be a "perfect storm" for college programs that need the money.

For me, almost all stadium workers are there as a part time, second job. Its not how they make their main living. So I'm not going to worry too much about it. While those are the people I care about the most in all of this, they're also I think in most cases not dependent on it.

And as for the people who own the concessions, its hard to feel bad when they're making a 90% profit on the things that they sell the fans every week.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

For me, almost all stadium workers are there as a part time, second job. Its not how they make their main living. So I'm not going to worry too much about it. While those are the people I care about the most in all of this, they're also I think in most cases not dependent on it.

And as for the people who own the concessions, its hard to feel bad when they're making a 90% profit on the things that they sell the fans every week.

I’m not sure you understand the profit margins in the restaurant business..not even close to 90 percent..

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

For me, almost all stadium workers are there as a part time, second job. Its not how they make their main living. So I'm not going to worry too much about it. While those are the people I care about the most in all of this, they're also I think in most cases not dependent on it.

And as for the people who own the concessions, its hard to feel bad when they're making a 90% profit on the things that they sell the fans every week.

Probably over half the stadiums in the country use a temp workforce through an events company- meaning you work the stadium for NFL sports and events, then the rest of the week maybe you cater corporate events, work the NBA/MLB games, convention center events, private catering, etc. Those folks are out of work 100%, but then again they've been drawing $800-1k a week unemployment for a job that paid them $300-400.

So I guess you're right for the most part, the heck with them...LOL! Hopefully they banked those free taxpayer bonus dollars when they could.

"djphinfan wrote:

I’m not sure you understand the profit margins in the restaurant business..not even close to 90 percent..

Restaurants are different than concession stands. They don't charge $10 for a beer when you go to Chills. Or $5 for a slice of pizza at Dominos.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Restaurants are different than concession stands. They don't charge $10 for a beer when you go to Chills. Or $5 for a slice of pizza at Dominos.

That’s true, if they are not there own brand..my mistake.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/08/big-ten-could-be-the-next-conference-to-cancel-football/

The MAC just became the biggest conference so far to cancel their 2020 football season, but much bigger news could be coming. Apparently, the Big 10 might not be far behind. If and when they do shut down, it will be interesting to see how that changes plans for the rest of them.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/09/power-5-commissioners-meet-with-college-football-season-in-the-balance/

Today, the commissioners of the Power Five conferences met to discuss the possibility of the college football season being cancelled, as we edge towards that happening. Many think that it could happen as soon as Tuesday.

The Big 10 cancelled their season.

The Mountain West has joined the Big 10 and MAC in cancelling/postponing their 2020 season.

We'll see how long the other conferences stick to their guns.

The NFL will do everything it can to have a season. There is simply too much money on the line. I could see a shortened season, like 12 regular season games, and they can play a lot of games on Saturday to help fill the void of college football, so the ratings should be fantastic for most every game.

The Big 10 has told Nebraska that they can't play college football in 2020 until they want to leave the conference.

Looks like the SEC and ACC want to play in the fall.Some conferences may play in the winter.Clear as mud in college.

"firedan wrote:

Looks like the SEC and ACC want to play in the fall.Some conferences may play in the winter.Clear as mud in college.

We'll see if it goes down. The colleges have been saying for months that they won't play in empty stadiums. They've been quieter about that now. It may come down to what the states and localities allow.