What I did not like about the Jacksonville Game

"padre31 wrote:

Well, I've got some issues after rewatching the game for the second time.

1. Waay to undisciplined, too many flags, that is not Sparano Ball

2. Eric Green is Sparano's Tavares Tillman

3. Starter against Starter, the Jags Dline won the battle in the running game

4. The TPain song

5.Guys were not making plays for P White, his stat line says "2-7 1 int" but he played much better than that he cannot throw and catch his own passes.

I did like the fact our 3rd team defense was not going to roll over and give up a score, and I did think our Special Teams units played well.

Thoughts?

Oh yea, I forgot Eric "The Top" Green getting spun around and giving up nearly every catch thrown his way.

The running game was a concern of mine as well, though Jacksonville has some pretty meaty dudes in the middle of that DLine, plus we didn't try much outside.

:lol: @ #4 Padre ... my comment in the game thread was "MY EARS! DEAR GOD MY EARS!"

I thought that we were pretty disciplined, there was some miscommunication and things like that, but then again, it was the first preseason game. Most of our penalties came with the second and third team, the only first team penalty was Don Thomas's false start.

I agree that Eric Green looked pretty darned bad, but then again, the Jags were clearly targeting him. Vontae made some mistakes and didn't look all that impressive either.

It's a good effort to build on - be glad we looked like this now and not in week 1 of the regular season.

I didn't like all those Jacksonville penalties :lol: they slowed the game down horribly.

Two penalties were completely ticky tack, vontae's playful touch on the returner, and the late hit on our saftey was a joke.

Off top, I like the Tpain song. Well like is a relavite word. It's not horrible, it's just not good either. The fight song needs to be updated. I give them an A for effort on that, C- for execution.

Eric Green... wow. Not a good debut. He unless lighting strikes Smith he isn't going to sniff the starting lineup.

Oline was disappointing, but I am still hopeful. Two new starters on the Oline so that might be part of it. We didn't iron out the kinks in the Oline last year until the 3rd or 4th game, so I will be patient.

I was slightly surprised that Randy Starks started over Merlin. All the training camp articles suggest he would, but I was expecting Merlin for some reason. I hope whoever it is plays well in the regular season. If they can't keep the Oline off our LB's then stopping the run is going to be an issue.

Ithought it looked like the first preseason football game.
Defence ahead of the offfence as it usualy is this time of year.
The offensive line has to run block better,it take a little while time for them to get thier timeing down,I think they will and we should see improvement Saturday.

"padre31 wrote:

Well, I've got some issues after rewatching the game for the second time.

1. Waay to undisciplined, too many flags, that is not Sparano Ball

2. Eric Green is Sparano's Tavares Tillman

3. Starter against Starter, the Jags Dline won the battle in the running game

4. The TPain song

5.Guys were not making plays for P White, his stat line says "2-7 1 int" but he played much better than that he cannot throw and catch his own passes.

I did like the fact our 3rd team defense was not going to roll over and give up a score, and I did think our Special Teams units played well.

Thoughts?

White was rather inaccurate, IMO. The interception wasn't his fault though, but it was a fullback (I think) who tried to catch the pass...

"Crappy Tipper wrote:

Oh yea, I forgot Eric "The Top" Green getting spun around and giving up nearly every catch thrown his way.

The running game was a concern of mine as well, though Jacksonville has some pretty meaty dudes in the middle of that DLine, plus we didn't try much outside.

I just hope Green doesn't get the nod because "I won't start a rookie Cb in the first game".

I used to call Tillman "asbestos helmet" Green may need a nickname like "runway" or "I-22" when you need to move the ball, go that route..

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

White was rather inaccurate, IMO. The interception wasn't his fault though, but it was a fullback (I think) who tried to catch the pass...

Interesting. I thought his passes were surprisingly accurate. The one thing I noticed is he seemed to lock on to his recievers, and he scrambles when he could simply move up in the pocket. But it's early.

"padre31 wrote:

I just hope Green doesn't get the nod because "I won't start a rookie Cb in the first game".

I used to call Tillman "asbestos helmet" Green may need a nickname like "runway" or "I-22" when you need to move the ball, go that route..

He really did look lost out there and for a guy coming in against the second string offense he should have stood out if he wanted to be the starting corner.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

White was rather inaccurate, IMO. The interception wasn't his fault though, but it was a fullback (I think) who tried to catch the pass...

Is there somewhere else he is supposed to hit the reciever other than his hands?

Pat White cant play in the pocket and thats a problem. I was very unimpressed with him but the INT was not his fault.

Our Special Teams is still pretty bad.

Pat White was very accurate. I dont know what game you guys were watching. He did a great job.

"Skeet84 wrote:

Pat White cant play in the pocket and thats a problem. I was very unimpressed with him but the INT was not his fault.

Our Special Teams is still pretty bad.

I was more impressed by White, as he was better than I expected. But I did feel like he was out of place in the pocket. His throws were fine for the most part. The INT was no doubt Kimble's fault.

"padre31 wrote:

Well, I've got some issues after rewatching the game for the second time.

1. Waay to undisciplined, too many flags, that is not Sparano Ball

2. Eric Green is Sparano's Tavares Tillman

3. Starter against Starter, the Jags Dline won the battle in the running game

4. The TPain song

5.Guys were not making plays for P White, his stat line says "2-7 1 int" but he played much better than that he cannot throw and catch his own passes.

I did like the fact our 3rd team defense was not going to roll over and give up a score, and I did think our Special Teams units played well.

Thoughts?

1st preseason game. Nuff' said

"Crappy Tipper wrote:

He really did look lost out there and for a guy coming in against the second string offense he should have stood out if he wanted to be the starting corner.

At this point, Nate Jones and Jason Allen (did I really say that!?!) are easily ahead of Green.

Green was as bad or worse than Reggie Howard.

"Stitches wrote:

Green was as bad or worse than Reggie Howard.

Was he worse than Terry Cousins? :lol:

Vontae Davis.

"padre31 wrote:

At this point, Nate Jones and Jason Allen (did I really say that!?!) are easily ahead of Green.

Barring a major turn around he's making the first set of cuts pretty easy for the coaches.

Green, Cousins or how about Jamar Fletcher?

"Lt Dan wrote:

1st preseason game. Nuff' said

Hey, we're Phinfans, it's not like anyone is saying "Vontae Davis is a bust"..

Or are they..:shifty:

"padre31 wrote:

Well, I've got some issues after rewatching the game for the second time.

1. Waay to undisciplined, too many flags, that is not Sparano Ball

Agreed

2. Eric Green is Sparano's Tavares Tillman

Agreed

3. Starter against Starter, the Jags Dline won the battle in the running game

Agreed

4. The TPain song

Disagree. I kinda like it

5.Guys were not making plays for P White, his stat line says "2-7 1 int" but he played much better than that he cannot throw and catch his own passes.

AGREED!

I did like the fact our 3rd team defense was not going to roll over and give up a score, and I did think our Special Teams units played well.

Thoughts?

Thoughts are in bold.

"mbmonk wrote:

Was he worse than Terry Cousins? :lol:

Cousin was actually solid in his one year with the Dolphins. Carolina threw a lot of money at him in free agency and he left-which I believe is what led to the Reggie Howard acquisition.