What are your feelings on Henne????

he looked really good Vs NO......he will be fine, iam happy with what we have as our backup QB

The kid has looked good when he's got some talent around him. He seems to have struggled when playing with the 2nd teamers and scrubs.

I think he needs more experience and hoping Sparano does like he mentioned and gives him some playing time during the regular season.

If Henne doesn't pan out, then I'm afraid all this regime will accomplish is climbing out of the depths and back into the mediocrity that we've been mired in for years....there's a LOT riding on this kid. Our future to be exact.

JS

"SICK wrote:

he looked really good Vs NO......he will be fine, iam happy with what we have as our backup QB

really? I was just watching NO and it prompted me to make this post. I didn't see anything worth noting. Just curious how others felt. Do you think he could take over for Penne and we wouldn't skip a beat??

"2socks wrote:

really? I was just watching NO and it prompted me to make this post. I didn't see anything worth noting. Just curious how others felt. Do you think he could take over for Penne and we wouldn't skip a beat??

not yet.....thats why he is 2nd on the depth chart.....he made some good throws, started out 7 for his first 7......and had avery nice throw on the run to ted ginn

"jetssuck wrote:

The kid has looked good when he's got some talent around him. He seems to have struggled when playing with the 2nd teamers and scrubs.

I think he needs more experience and hoping Sparano does like he mentioned and gives him some playing time during the regular season.

If Henne doesn't pan out, then I'm afraid all this regime will accomplish is climbing out of the depths and back into the mediocrity that we've been mired in for years....there's a LOT riding on this kid. Our future to be exact.


JS

My concern the medoicre looks and our future:unsure:

"SICK wrote:

not yet.....thats why he is 2nd on the depth chart.....he made some good throws, started out 7 for his first 7......and had avery nice throw on the run to ted ginn

Yea that throw to Ginn was a beauty. One of the better throws I've seen in a while!!!!!

I am not impressed with Henne after all the high praise coming out of the Trio on him as to his progress (as they see it). If he's so good he should have been fighting for the starters spot can any here say, in truth, that he looks ready to start? Anyone???:shifty:

As I said in an earlier post he reminds me of Drew Bledsoe - great arm - but in no way was he ever a franchise QB IMHO.

Please Jeff just keep looking and for heavens sake resign Penny!!!:up:

Henne is growing into a starting QB as an understudy to a Master of the game.

"2socks wrote:

really? I was just watching NO and it prompted me to make this post. I didn't see anything worth noting. Just curious how others felt. Do you think he could take over for Penne and we wouldn't skip a beat??

I think he could start right now and handle himself quite well. Would he be as efficient, probably not, but I think we would see bigger plays with him at the helm. I think he's at the stage now where he needs playing time to improve. He's not really going to grow much more sitting on the bench

I'm very satisfied with Henne. As far as I can tell, he can make all the throws. his biggest problem is timing. he holds the ball too long and doesn';t make his reads fast enough, but all of that irons itself out after more playing time. I think henne will be just fine.

Henne is making progress...but nothing other than more playing time and experience will get him to the point he needs to be wrt reading defenses.

Wait and see.

He's got the arm, but there's a Mount Everest-sized boneyard of great NFL arms that were attached to non-NFL-caliber Quarterbacks.

My gut feeling: John Beck, Part II.

"2socks wrote:

I guess my opinion is still reserved. I am not at all impressed and I'm not in a panic because I think he will be okay.....but that's my problem he does nothing for me.

What do you guys think????

Oh my! oh My!....He can make all the pro throws and has a very good arm. He HASN"T played in a game that counts when the blood is flowing! He has the potential, but you haven't seen him yet.

Here in lies the problem too. When he does play everyone( fans ) will expect him to be perfect from the start. The only way he can be very good is to play when it counts, not holding the clipboard!

"GRT8 wrote:

Oh my! oh My!....He can make all the pro throws and has a very good arm. He HASN"T played in a game that counts when the blood is flowing! He has the potential, but you haven't seen him yet.

Here in lies the problem too. When he does play everyone( fans ) will expect him to be perfect from the start. The only way he can be very good is to play when it counts, not holding the clipboard!

So does putting him in mean we have to sacrifice a season or 2 of 5-11, 7-9 in order for him to take us where we want to go :confused2:

Are we so conditioned to failure and disappointment that we expect immediate success and gratification or do we as fans give up on a player too soon? I am surprised there is not a, we should have drafted Matt Ryan post on this thread. Henne must have shown Parcells, Ireland and Sparano something or they would be looking for more insurance behind Pennington. IMHO I think Henne is learning behind one of the best teachers he could have in the NFL. If given a chance and time Henne may become a good quarterback. Not all good and great quarterbacks become an instant success, some take time to develop.

"Onehondo wrote:

Are we so conditioned to failure and disappointment that we expect immediate success and gratification or do we as fans give up on a player too soon? I am surprised there is not a, we should have drafted Matt Ryan post on this thread. Henne must have shown Parcells, Ireland and Sparano something or they would be looking for more insurance behind Pennington. IMHO I think Henne is learning behind one of the best teachers he could have in the NFL. If given a chance and time Henne may become a good quarterback. Not all good and great quarterbacks become an instant success, some take time to develop.

would you mind naming a few?

"2socks wrote:

would you mind naming a few?

How about Chad Pennington. Didn't start a game til his third year.

Matt Cassel's pretty obvious. Drew Brees was terrible his first few years. Kurt Warner couldn't even get on an nfl squad.

He just needs more reps. Don't forget he's been throwing to guys with very little to no NFL experience. I like how he throws the ball. Chad's intelligent and knows where placement needs to be based on where coverage is, and has shown promising accuracy on making those throws IMO.
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"CitizenSnips wrote:

How about Chad Pennington. Didn't start a game til his third year.

Matt Cassel's pretty obvious. Drew Brees was terrible his first few years. Kurt Warner couldn't even get on an nfl squad.

Not to knock your post because it did take Brees two years and the threat of being pulled for him to revive himself. Matt Cassel will be a one year wonder, wait and see, you can't blame Kurt for a coach's blindness. BTW you could put Johnny U on your list too. He was cut by none other than the Steelers and then only brought into the Colts as a back up cause he wasn't protypical at the time!!

As to John Beck, with his 108 QB rating this PS, after only playing in less than 1/2 of one PS game last year, nothing during RS last year, and only one series game two and all of game four this PS, the second if memory serves, plied against Henne's time last year PS, RS, OTA's, and all PS games this year so far plus Tony and Jeff's indorcement and his 70's rating this PS (including playing time with our first stringers). No, I'm not impressed with our Mr. Henne and I hope and pray that Penny stays upright or IMHO we are in trouble. :wink2::shifty:

Assuming Penninton stays healthy, I think they put Henne in this year when the score is lopsided either way or Pennington is ineffective. Next year we have a fight for the starting position. If Henne wins Pennington becomes a player-coach. If Henne loses he continues to play every time the score gets lopsided or Pennington is ineffective. Sort of like Craig Morton and Roger Staubach.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

I think he could start right now and handle himself quite well. Would he be as efficient, probably not, but I think we would see bigger plays with him at the helm. I think he's at the stage now where he needs playing time to improve. He's not really going to grow much more sitting on the bench

That about sums it up. When Henne was in briefly with the first stringers, he looked great out there. even with the second team he looked pretty damn good still. He needs to play now, I see him maybe getting some time in there this year.

As for the doubters... What do you really want from him? He had a good preseason, only threw one pick that i recall, should have had an extra TD pass that Williams dropped. He did everything we asked him to do on the field. Did he have a rough outing against tampa? Yes, did he bounce back strong from that outing against the saints? Heck yes! What more can you ask for at this point? Why wouldnt you be impressed. He's not making stupid mistakes often, he's accurate, and has a strong arm, and seems to have good command over the team on the field. So, what's not to be impressed with? Is it because he didnt lite it up in the preseason and throw for 7 or 8 td's? I mean come on, its preseason. We didnt really show anything offensively at all.

Henne is going to be fine, he's going to be the future of this team, and I really don't think we have anything to worry about. He's learning from one of the best game management qb's there is, and he has all the physical tools, and a great coaching staff as well. Nothing to worry about....

"2socks wrote:

So does putting him in mean we have to sacrifice a season or 2 of 5-11, 7-9 in order for him to take us where we want to go :confused2:

No, but don't expect him to be a veteran playing at a high level, because there is only so much you can do watching and practicing. Game speed is much faster than practice speed.

I'll be the first to make a bold statement. Lets call it what it is.......

If Chad gives you the best chance to succeed, that is a bold statement. Its hard to replace a QB that played so well last year and on a team that is still building its identity. Sure Miami won the division. BUT did they do it when New England had Brady? I am proud of what Miami accomplished, but to expect it this year is a tougher challenge, period!

To maintain team karma, Penny should start again. The team wants him to also ( the players). With that said, Henne is the future and at what point do you play him? If Chad is healthy all year( chances are against it ) do you site Henne another year? I think Miami has two good QB's and capable of playing in a team role within the game plan. There is only one QB on the roster capable of taking over a game though and his name is Henne!

The real problem is the fact the offensive system doesn't take advantage of Henne's arm, so when he is the starter, will the OC change? That will be the challenge, MARK MY WORDS. :)

"CitizenSnips wrote:

How about Chad Pennington. Didn't start a game til his third year.

Matt Cassel's pretty obvious. Drew Brees was terrible his first few years. Kurt Warner couldn't even get on an nfl squad.

how about Aaron Rodgers ??