What are They THINKING
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Abbi NormalNew MemberOPStop the insanity, OL at 15.............what do they think we have a team like the Pats who actually have skilled QB WR RB TE's and can afford to take a linemen
Love the playing it safe strategy. We don't want to screw up our QB position or take a risk on a RB like we are all set there. Christ we have Henne and NO RB.........
Somebody wake me I'm having a night mare, can our organization be This Clueless...
Ireland is going forward alright, to bad though he's facing the wrong way.........
They are consistent though not like we need to take a risk. hell we'll have two pro bowl linemen (at best) and no skilled players to actually do something with the ball.....
Only one thing to do now and thats LOL
because reality is to depressing to think about......
And to think some people are actually excited
Positives
Good shot at #1 pick in 2012 draft
potential for organization to hire staff which is in the 21 century.... (scarry thought cause owner is also on the clueless boat)
hey we have 3 - 7th rd picks maybe a good shot at MR irrelevant
The insanity and cluelessness of this organization is to clear to ignore. And the organization will be going nowhere till somebody tells and gets through to the owner the "King has no clothes". And that maybe a skilled player who actually handles the ball might be important..........
Oh ya FA........Don't know how, but actually counting on them screwing that up as well.
Go ahead people, justify this train accident
padre31luxury_boxEh, really it is quite simple, the running game went from #4 to #22 in the NFL, if it is not fixed the offense will be poor once again.
Really quite simple actually.
We have been the worst team, statistically, at blocking at the second level.
The Aqua CrushNew MemberA dominant oline with Pouncey, Jerry, Carey and Long is not a bad thing at all. The one thing that has always been consistent with winning teams is they win the battles in the trenches. It is what dictates every play for every game.
If you have a good oline, it can buy your playmakers more time. With more time anyone can make plays in the NFL.
I like the pick, but that could just be me. Not sure if that's the justification you were looking for but that's how i see it.
padre31luxury_box"alen1 wrote:
We have been the worst team, statistically, at blocking at the second level.
A lack of speed has an effect, add in Henne was one of the worst at completing passes down the field and the offensive woes are no mystery.
CitizenSnipsNew Memberthink of the offensive line like the foundation of a house. If you don't have a foundation, or worse, you have a S****y one, your house is going to fall apart or never get built.
there WILL be FA .... to help with RBs, outside of picking one up in the mid rounds either late today - but more likely early tomorrow.
sorry, but Pouncey was really an easy call to make for this regime -- it fit a need, was the best at either G or C, and was a safe pick. he will come in an perform from day 1.
i just laugh every time i read we'll get the #1 pick next year .... gheeeesh ... get a grip. we will not be any worse than we were last year .... for sure.
MonstBlitzforum_veteranI'm only upset with the pick if Ireland and company believed that any of the QBs left were an upgrade over Henne. Otherwise, you can't be too angry at the pick. If there was no franchise QB to be had, the best you can do to improve your offense is to try and build a dominant offensive line.
mrozsubscriber"The Aqua Crush wrote:
A dominant oline with Pouncey, Jerry, Carey and Long is not a bad thing at all. The one thing that has always been consistent with winning teams is they win the battles in the trenches. It is what dictates every play for every game.
If you have a good oline, it can buy your playmakers more time. With more time anyone can make plays in the NFL.
I like the pick, but that could just be me. Not sure if that's the justification you were looking for but that's how i see it.
I am sorry but did you see in Jerry that makes you think he is going to be on the team this year much less starting and much less dominant? I mean I like the Pouncey pick but Jerry sucks butt!
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padre31luxury_box"mroz wrote:
I am sorry but did you see in Jerry that makes you think he is going to be on the team this year much less starting and much less dominant? I mean I like the Pouncey pick but Jerry sucks butt!
Yeah, JJ was terrible in 2010, have to give them some time though as Carey was terrible as a Rook as well but turned it around.
Abbi NormalNew Member"padre31 wrote:
Eh, really it is quite simple, the running game went from #4 to #22 in the NFL, if it is not fixed the offense will be poor once again.
Really quite simple actually.
OK then get a RB.....priorities man..........there's so much we have to upgrade to me I think we need to take big gambles at this point on RB or QB, because we are still in the mid stages of rebuilding our Offense. What if Ingram is the real deal or a QB thats available. priorities. Ya we got a good guard maybe a good center whos improve from this year. just a crazy pick for our team........
These guys are through pulling the rug over my eyes hopefully you catch on soon Papy. You are knowledgeble and thats why I'm answering your post.......
padre31luxury_box"Abbi Normal wrote:
OK then get a RB.....priorities man..........there's so much we have to upgrade to me I think we need to take big gambles at this point on RB or QB, because we are still in the mid stages of rebuilding our Offense. What if Ingram is the real deal or a QB thats available. priorities. Ya we got a good guard maybe a good center whos improve from this year. just a crazy pick for our team........
These guys are through pulling the rug over my eyes hopefully you catch on soon Papy. You are knowledgeble and thats why I'm answering your post.......
Eh, I think they view Running Backs as easily acquired but Olineman difficult to acquire, so they go OL first, then find their Rb second.
To me that is backwards, but I'm just a dude with a keyboard.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
Eh, I think they view Running Backs as easily acquired but Olineman difficult to acquire, so they go OL first, then find their Rb second.
To me that is backwards, but I'm just a dude with a keyboard.
This is a runningbacks are a dime a dozen league at the moment
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Springveldtforum_veteran"Abbi Normal wrote:
OK then get a RB.....priorities man..........there's so much we have to upgrade to me I think we need to take big gambles at this point on RB or QB, because we are still in the mid stages of rebuilding our Offense. What if Ingram is the real deal or a QB thats available. priorities. Ya we got a good guard maybe a good center whos improve from this year. just a crazy pick for our team........
These guys are through pulling the rug over my eyes hopefully you catch on soon Papy. You are knowledgeble and thats why I'm answering your post.......
What's the point in getting a RB that will only be running into the backside of our OL since they get no push and create no holes?
We need to fix the interior of the OL or our season is over before we even start. Just look at our division, all 3 teams have good/great DL's. Buffalo has potentially one of the best DT pairings in the league with Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus. If we can't run and can't keep guys out of our QB's face then what's the point in picking skill players?
If you win the battle in the trenches more often than not you will win the game.
padre31luxury_box"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
This is a runningbacks are a dime a dozen league at the moment
Which is a mistake imho, and creates opportunities for teams that move contra to that theory.
KillerphinsNew Member"Abbi Normal wrote:
OK then get a RB.....priorities man..........there's so much we have to upgrade to me I think we need to take big gambles at this point on RB or QB, because we are still in the mid stages of rebuilding our Offense. What if Ingram is the real deal or a QB thats available. priorities. Ya we got a good guard maybe a good center whos improve from this year. just a crazy pick for our team........
These guys are through pulling the rug over my eyes hopefully you catch on soon Papy. You are knowledgeble and thats why I'm answering your post.......
I'm happy with the pick...... as of now Henne is still the starting QB because they didn't value any of the QB's there higher. Deal.
As for running back we can still get one and not have to reach. No need to get one at #15 when you can bolster the OL which is a huge.
Fans are so impatient that they lose track of the process.
Shouldn't this rant be in the rant forum? :wink2:
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
Which is a mistake imho, and creates opportunities for teams that move contra to that theory.
like who?
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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padre31luxury_box"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
like who?
Eh, Ingram or Leshoure, but I don't think either is a HoF running back however in yrs past they would have mid rd #1 picks.
As teams move more to passing offenses, and defenses adjust by going smaller and quicker to cover them the team that can run the ball with power have a huge advantage.
Nappy Rootsforum_veteranI love all the people saying "Look at this team. Look at that team"..."Pats can afford to take these types of players. We can't!"
How many first rounders have the pats spent on skill players? Yea...
How many have the Steelers spent on them?
Packers?
These teams don't draft skill players in 1st round outside of QB..which is a 1st round position. WR, RB, and TE are not first round positions IMO.
Now all these teams have a QB so that point is moot. But all those teams had QBs fall in their lap. Brady to 6th. Big Ben dropped in the draft to 11..and Rodgers dropped all the way to the 20s to the Packers. No QB dropped to 15 so we went with the most important position on offense after QB. It's simply smart.
It's a point I've always said and don't understand how people don't understand it. You don't take someone just to take the position.
You don't draft Mallet at 15 just to take a QB. Obviously they don't feel like he's that great or they would have taken him...
Not that this FO has shown the ability to evaluate QBs. But their the ones getting paid to turn this thing around.
I just know it better start next season
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CitizenSnipsNew Member"padre31 wrote:
Which is a mistake imho, and creates opportunities for teams that move contra to that theory.
jamaal charles 3rd round
ray rice 2nd round
blount undrafted
arian foster undrafted
michael turner 5th round
frank gore 3rd round
peyton hillis 7th round.
i dont feel like looking up anymore but this list can get a lot bigger im sure. These guys just come from out of no where all the time. It truly is the one position that just isnt dictated by draft value.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
Eh, Ingram or Leshoure, but I don't think either is a HoF running back however in yrs past they would have mid rd #1 picks.
As teams move more to passing offenses, and defenses adjust by going smaller and quicker to cover them the team that can run the ball with power have a huge advantage.
Ingram maybe, I highly doubt Leshoure would be. This wasn't exactly a strong draft.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Springveldtforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
Eh, Ingram or Leshoure, but I don't think either is a HoF running back however in yrs past they would have mid rd #1 picks.
As teams move more to passing offenses, and defenses adjust by going smaller and quicker to cover them the team that can run the ball with power have a huge advantage.
Ingram is going to look like an absolute stud running behind that Saints line this year. If Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas look pretty good behind it I expect Ingram to look special. Wouldn't surprise me to see him end up ROTY.
padre31luxury_box"CitizenSnips wrote:
jamaal charles 3rd round
ray rice 2nd round
blount undrafted
arian foster undrafted
michael turner 5th round
frank gore 3rd round
peyton hillis 7th round.i dont feel like looking up anymore but this list can get a lot bigger im sure. These guys just come from out of no where all the time. It truly is the one position that just isnt dictated by draft value.
Mendenhall, LT, Bush, Jackson, AP, D Williams, C Johnson etc.
padre31luxury_box"Springveldt wrote:
Ingram is going to look like an absolute stud running behind that Saints line this year. If Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas look pretty good behind it I expect Ingram to look special. Wouldn't surprise me to see him end up ROTY.
People are mentioning Reggie Bush leaving NOLA but P Thomas could be leaving as well.
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