Week 11 - Dolphins @ J E T S -Black Friday game

Spread is 9.5 now

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

Spread is 9.5 now

Wow...I'm really surprised. What do the oddsmakers know that we don't? The home team typically gets an automatic 3 so Miami with a 9.5 is crazy to me.

I get that the Jets offense can't beat a Pop Warner team, but that defense is scary. I'm hoping that their defense has just thrown in the towel at this point and have said F U to the offense and realize it's not worth risking injury playing all out for a losing season.

Jets are banged up after their game against the Bills. Which is good for us.

"danmarino wrote:

Wow...I'm really surprised. What do the oddsmakers know that we don't? The home team typically gets an automatic 3 so Miami with a 9.5 is crazy to me.

I get that the Jets offense can't beat a Pop Warner team, but that defense is scary. I'm hoping that their defense has just thrown in the towel at this point and have said F U to the offense and realize it's not worth risking injury playing all out for a losing season.

Jets are banged up after their game against the Bills. Which is good for us.

Their offense is just unbelievably bad, and our own defense is now essentially equal to theirs with respect to yardage, allowing 35 more yards through ten games. Our run defense is also signifigantly better than theirs, we've allowed almost exactly the same amount of passing yardage after the catch, and we have more sacks.

So when both teams have a good defense, while one has the #1 offense in the league and the other is #31 and starting a new QB, the line shouldn't be that surprising.

"danmarino wrote:

Wow...I'm really surprised. What do the oddsmakers know that we don't? The home team typically gets an automatic 3 so Miami with a 9.5 is crazy to me.

I get that the Jets offense can't beat a Pop Warner team, but that defense is scary. I'm hoping that their defense has just thrown in the towel at this point and have said F U to the offense and realize it's not worth risking injury playing all out for a losing season.

Jets are banged up after their game against the Bills. Which is good for us.

It's pretty easy. Their offense is historically bad. The new quarterback is bad. The defense isn't as good as everyone makes it out to be. And, their coaching is an absolute joke.

The Jets are about ready to implode and I hope the Dolphins set it off.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

It's pretty easy. Their offense is historically bad. The new quarterback is bad. The defense isn't as good as everyone makes it out to be. And, their coaching is an absolute joke.

The Jets are about ready to implode and I hope the Dolphins set it off.

I really hope you're right, but it's a divisional game and anything can happen. Too many times in history I've seen where a divisional rival, who is supposedly much inferior to the team they're playing, win the game. I don't think this will be an easy game and will come down to the turnover battle.

If Miami wins the turnover battle:

Miami 23
Jets 9

If Miami loses the turnover battle:

Miami 17
Jets 10

Points is at 41? I'm taking the under :chuckle:

If our offence stops turning the ball over inside our 35 yard line this horrible Jets offence is going to struggle to put up 10 points. The front 4 will be able to get a ton of pressure without any help as their OL is horrific, Ramsey has basically taken away one side of the field, I'll be surprised if they even throw at him so just keep an eye on Wilson and they will struggle to move the ball.

Division game, I think anything can happen. As of right now, I think this game and our week 17 game against the hated Ravens are two of the most important games remaining on our schedule. This is a must win game for us in my opinion. We have an opportunity to start running away with the division if we can take this game. Buffalo has a mountain of a schedule remaining against teams that can beat them. Hopefully, the Eagles do us another favor this weekend by beating them. Maybe the Raiders can pull off the upset against the Chiefs? It would be nice to see the Chargers beat the Ravens as well. Getting things like that to go our way are bigger than most think. The main thing though is that we continue to get wins against the teams we're supposed to beat. We should beat the Jets on Friday. It won't be easy, don't expect a huge scoring output either. Some of ya'll are gonna cry when Tua doesn't throw for 500 yards and 5 TD's against a very good defense and that's fine. We come out with a win and i'll be happy. If the final score is 10-6 and we win, I'll be happy. This will not be an easy game for us. If we somehow lose this game, I'll be concerned because it's such a tight race right now in the league. We absolutely need to win this game.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Division game, I think anything can happen. As of right now, I think this game and our week 17 game against the hated Ravens are two of the most important games remaining on our schedule. This is a must win game for us in my opinion. We have an opportunity to start running away with the division if we can take this game. Buffalo has a mountain of a schedule remaining against teams that can beat them. Hopefully, the Eagles do us another favor this weekend by beating them. Maybe the Raiders can pull off the upset against the Chiefs? It would be nice to see the Chargers beat the Ravens as well. Getting things like that to go our way are bigger than most think. The main thing though is that we continue to get wins against the teams we're supposed to beat. We should beat the Jets on Friday. It won't be easy, don't expect a huge scoring output either. Some of ya'll are gonna cry when Tua doesn't throw for 500 yards and 5 TD's against a very good defense and that's fine. We come out with a win and i'll be happy. If the final score is 10-6 and we win, I'll be happy. This will not be an easy game for us. If we somehow lose this game, I'll be concerned because it's such a tight race right now in the league. We absolutely need to win this game.

Exactly. Win this and there is a very real chance we are 11-3 going into the Dallas game.

I'm expecting this to be a very tight, frustrating game. Would be huge if Hunt is back for this, the running game is really struggling right now with the backup backup guards in there.

"Springveldt wrote:

Exactly. Win this and there is a very real chance we are 11-3 going into the Dallas game.

I'm expecting this to be a very tight, frustrating game. Would be huge if Hunt is back for this, the running game is really struggling right now with the backup backup guards in there.

If Hunt and Achane are a go it would do wonders for our offense. They're going to need a great game plan and play calling from MM.

I agree with the majority here, I'd never bet against the Jets playing hard and being competitive against us. I don't think they have enough firepower to beat us unless it happens through defensive turnovers.

However, I'm expecting a blowout close to the point spread, maybe 37-3 Miami or something like that.

"KeyFin wrote:

I agree with the majority here, I'd never bet against the Jets playing hard and being competitive against us. I don't think they have enough firepower to beat us unless it happens through defensive turnovers.

However, I'm expecting a blowout close to the point spread, maybe 37-3 Miami or something like that.

I really hope you're right. It's so much more relaxing to watch the Dolphins with a huge lead. lol

"danmarino wrote:

I really hope you're right. It's so much more relaxing to watch the Dolphins with a huge lead. lol

Yeah, it opens up the playbook on both sides of the ball, and lets Ramsey/X thrive in ball-hawk mode. That's the game I'm hoping to see as well.

"KeyFin wrote:

I agree with the majority here, I'd never bet against the Jets playing hard and being competitive against us. I don't think they have enough firepower to beat us unless it happens through defensive turnovers.

However, I'm expecting a blowout close to the point spread, maybe 37-3 Miami or something like that.

Opposite for me, I'm expecting a dogfight and to see the offence stall a few times through their own errors. Until they prove they can play a clean game on the road I'm going to assume they will find ways to kill 3 or 4 drives and keep the game relatively close.

I still expect us to win but more like 20-9 or something like that. I'm assuming it's going to be a very noisy game, it's at a very weird time (is that 3PM eastern on Friday? It's 8pm GMT, what the hell) so I guess it's a national holiday Friday? There are going to be lots of drunk, hungover from the day before, obnoxious New Yorkers there.

"Springveldt wrote:

Opposite for me, I'm expecting a dogfight and to see the offence stall a few times through their own errors. Until they prove they can play a clean game on the road I'm going to assume they will find ways to kill 3 or 4 drives and keep the game relatively close.

I still expect us to win but more like 20-9 or something like that. I'm assuming it's going to be a very noisy game, it's at a very weird time (is that 3PM eastern on Friday? It's 8pm GMT, what the hell) so I guess it's a national holiday Friday? There are going to be lots of drunk, hungover from the day before, obnoxious New Yorkers there.

I largely agree- maybe 3-4 drives do stall. But with the Jets offense, we'll probably see 10-12 drives? That could be enough for 50+ points if Hill and Waddle manage to shake loose in the open field.

Last week, we played down to Oakland and left a lot of points on the field. I think we improve this week and punch it in a few more times.

31-10 Miami

"Springveldt wrote:

Opposite for me, I'm expecting a dogfight and to see the offence stall a few times through their own errors. Until they prove they can play a clean game on the road I'm going to assume they will find ways to kill 3 or 4 drives and keep the game relatively close.

I still expect us to win but more like 20-9 or something like that. I'm assuming it's going to be a very noisy game, it's at a very weird time (is that 3PM eastern on Friday? It's 8pm GMT, what the hell) so I guess it's a national holiday Friday? There are going to be lots of drunk, hungover from the day before, obnoxious New Yorkers there.

I‘m feeling queasy about this one too. I‘m quite happy Wilson is not playing and that their O-line is more beat up then ours, that will definitely help.

17-10 Miami with a defensive score by each team.

I said in another thread that if neither team turns the ball over, I think we'll win something along the lines of 24-9.

If we can get to +2 or better in turnover margin, then it could look like a blowout on paper due to short fields and punching it in.

If we're reckless or unlucky with the ball, then it could be one of those games that looks a lot closer than it really was. Something like 18-12.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Their offense is just unbelievably bad, and our own defense is now essentially equal to theirs with respect to yardage, allowing 35 more yards through ten games. Our run defense is also signifigantly better than theirs, we've allowed almost exactly the same amount of passing yardage after the catch, and we have more sacks.

So when both teams have a good defense, while one has the #1 offense in the league and the other is #31 and starting a new QB, the line shouldn't be that surprising.

I'd much prefer Wilson be starting for them as their is tape on him. Last year I believe Purdy played his first game against us and he was lights out.

"JJ_79 wrote:

I‘m feeling queasy about this one too. I‘m quite happy Wilson is not playing and that their O-line is more beat up then ours, that will definitely help.

I'm opposite, I wish Wilson was playing. He is terrible.

"dolphin25 wrote:

I'd much prefer Wilson be starting for them as their is tape on him. Last year I believe Purdy played his first game against us and he was lights out.

They don't have the 49ers coaching staff. And our defense staff is a ton better now too.

"dolphin25 wrote:

I'm opposite, I wish Wilson was playing. He is terrible.

I was hoping to see Wilson get totally annihilated by our defense. I live in NJ and hearing the local media blast him every week has been entertaining to say the least.

"dolphin25 wrote:

I'd much prefer Wilson be starting for them as their is tape on him. Last year I believe Purdy played his first game against us and he was lights out.

Because Purdy is good. Tim Boyle is bad.