WE ARE ND: Official Thread of the Fighting Irish

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DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 23, 2008, 12:40 AM

"alen1 wrote:

Notre Dame fans react to loss on SI.com blog.

LOL.

Good points.

Weis is done after unforgivable loss to Syracuse | FanNation

The buy out might earn him another year. Also winning whatever crap bowl we go to could save his job. We'll see what happens, his contract makes it hard to predict.

King FelixKing Felixsubscriber
Nov 23, 2008, 12:43 AM

even though you are an angel fan, i still feel bad for you don.

ALalen1New Member
Nov 23, 2008, 12:46 AM

A $20 million dollar buyout seems highly unlikely or at least I would think so. I would think you guys are stuck with him for at least another year. I have to wonder though, how do they figure $20 million as the buyout number? If he signed a 10 year deal in 2005 worth $40M and they're paying him 4 million a year, wouldn't he be owed $28 million because of seven years remaining on his deal?

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 23, 2008, 12:50 AM

"King Felix wrote:

even though you are an angel fan, i still feel bad for you don.

Thanks :lol:

"alen1 wrote:

A $20 million dollar buyout seems highly unlikely or at least I would think so. I would think you guys are stuck with him for at least another year. I have to wonder though, how do they figure $20 million as the buyout number? If he signed a 10 year deal in 2005 worth $40M and they're paying him 4 million a year, wouldn't he be owed $28 million because of seven years remaining on his deal?

I dont know. The contract has been a bit of a mystery since he signed it. I dont think any of the numbers that are floating around are confirmed, just rumors/speculation. It's possible i guess that there was a clause that they could buy out the contract for a flat rate of 20 mill, and that how many years are left dont matter.

ALalen1New Member
Nov 23, 2008, 12:54 AM

"DonShula84 wrote:

I dont know. The contract has been a bit of a mystery since he signed it. I dont think any of the numbers that are floating around are confirmed, just rumors/speculation. It's possible i guess that there was a clause that they could buy out the contract for a flat rate of 20 mill, and that how many years are left dont matter.

ESPN had it confirmed at $40 million over a ten year spread, I think. I didn't think about the clause but I think you may be right on that. Either way, that's a hell of a buyout for Weis and it sucks for Notre Dame.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Nov 23, 2008, 09:50 AM

Syracuse??? :lol:

Feel sorta bad for all front-butt, Im sure he will find a coordinator job in the NFL.

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Nov 23, 2008, 10:40 AM

Wow, stunned they lost that game....sad!

BDH -

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"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

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Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Nov 23, 2008, 01:32 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

The buy out might earn him another year. Also winning whatever crap bowl we go to could save his job. We'll see what happens, his contract makes it hard to predict.

Or a nice W against $C. Rootin for you guys there. :up:

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PMZQPMZQNew Member
Nov 24, 2008, 02:07 PM

Here is an interesting copy of an email sent to a friend of mine on the Miami Hurricane Scout.com board.

Funny how so many people were defending Weis after his incredibly inept coaching staff did everything in their power to hand the game to a weak Navy team coached by a young first-year HC...Now, they blow it against a team coached by the dude from Sealab (BIZARRO!)-his 10th win in four years, mind you-and everyone jumps off the bandwagon. Or throws snowballs at it (funny, if you ask me).

This is what you would call Official Rock Bottom, no? How do you watch a team of giant blue-chip recruits on the O-line play Paddy Cake for three seasons and a young QB regress down the stretch two seasons in a row, and Special Olympics teams trot out onto the field in a Clown Car, and NOT see that things are getting WORSE, not BETTER?

I feel like The Cut Off The Left Hand Killer screaming at Cartman, "DO YOU SEE?! DO YOU SEE?!" as this Horror Show unfolds on NBC week after week, Tom Hammond's Giant Dome blocking out the sun so much that Massive Hail Stones rain down upon the Soft, Candy Ass Super Recruits like Frogs and Locusts at the Apocalypse.

How does ANY administration, yet alone one at such a Tradition-Rich School, give a Fat, Arrogant, First-Year HC a 10-YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION for going 5-2 in his first 7 games?

Weis is living The American Dream. Shady Business Practices to pad the resume. Sue the doctor who operates on you. Sue the people who built your mansion. Treat Underlings like dirt. Strong Arm your current employer with False Promises of a Bigger Job Offer (I bet the Giants regret sticking with Coughlin now). Collect your Millions and continue to produce a Crap Product.

Weis is The Ford CEO. Maybe ND can get the guts to finally fire his Arrogant Ass now, and he can go run the Detroit Lions further into the ground. And cut his Golden Boy QB a sweet deal on a Hummer while he's at it.

This is Beyond Bad. Nice to see all the Polyanna Apologists wise up and finally start to smell the stench that has been brewing in Ethanol-Rich South Bend. And they thought it was just Charlie's backed-up bowl...oh no. It's much worse.

Clearly, Terrelle Pryor is withering without King Charlie's tutelage. Brady Quinn also. And clearly, Clausen is thriving under the steady, solid hand of The Play Calling Genius.

Does this guy ever TRULY take the blame for the disaster he has inflicted upon so many Passionate Fans?

Does he EVER back up any of the hundreds of Outrageously Arrogant Boasts he spits out day after day, week after week?

What a fraud. This guy is the George W. Bush of Football. And all these years I thought that Rich Distinction belonged to Dave Wannstache...

16 losses in his last 25 games. 0-2 against Big Least teams this year. Losses to Syracuse, Navy, almost SDSU, Michigan State (every year), Valentine's Day Massacres against the University of Spoiled Children.

OK, THAT is to be expected.

Where does it end? WHEN does it end?

Irish Eyes are crying.

If they haven't already been gouged out.

Swarbrick...act decisively. Be proactive. Assemble a team.

Be Obama-esque. Now.

Do it. Cut the cord. This guy will never leave on his own accord.

Hell, why would he?

Brutal.

Notre Lamers are getting what they deserve after their arrogant ways when Dr. Nosepicker Holtz was cheatin' there (I mean he cheated at all of his other schools you know he was cheatin' there too :wink2: ).

Good luck with the buyout......NOT ! :up:

:sidelol:

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 24, 2008, 06:25 PM

It is entertaining how much other teams fans still care about Notre Dame...though a Thug U fan talking about anyone else's arrogance is pretty funny.

Worry about your own team :up:

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 25, 2008, 06:38 PM

ND vs Texas at the Maui Invitational tonight on ESPN. If the football team sucks, maybe the basketball team can bring a smile to our faces lol.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Nov 25, 2008, 06:59 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

ND vs Texas at the Maui Invitational tonight on ESPN. If the football team sucks, maybe the basketball team can bring a smile to our faces lol.

Can't wait till Ohio St plays ND :D

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 25, 2008, 07:04 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Can't wait till Ohio St plays ND :D

:yes:

I saw that last night. Finally decided to look over the schedule lol.

I'm hoping I can get tickets for ND's trip to UCLA.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Nov 25, 2008, 07:12 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

:yes:

I saw that last night. Finally decided to look over the schedule lol.

I'm hoping I can get tickets for ND's trip to UCLA.

Way to follow your team :up::wink2:

Right before that game we play Miami so hopefully I can rub both those wins in your (alen) faces :D

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 25, 2008, 09:13 PM

What a game lol. North Carolina next...

ALalen1New Member
Nov 25, 2008, 09:45 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Way to follow your team :up::wink2:

Right before that game we play Miami so hopefully I can rub both those wins in your (alen) faces :D

Ahem!

You ain't gonna be nobody.

Jaamal Berry v. Bryce Brown/Lamar Miller FTW!

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Nov 25, 2008, 10:20 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Ahem!

You ain't gonna be nobody.

Jaamal Berry v. Bryce Brown/Lamar Miller FTW!

Talking about College Bball there buddy :D

ALalen1New Member
Nov 25, 2008, 10:29 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Talking about College Bball there buddy :D

:pity:

DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 25, 2008, 11:23 PM

Harangody vs Hansbrough tomorrow should be fun. Just hoping ND can keep it close lol, UNC is stacked. Too bad Zeller got injured, could have had the brother's go against each other.

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Nov 26, 2008, 12:46 AM

"DonShula84 wrote:

:yes:

I saw that last night. Finally decided to look over the schedule lol.

I'm hoping I can get tickets for ND's trip to UCLA.

No student ticket prices for you! :tongue2:

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DonShula84DonShula84moderator
Nov 26, 2008, 03:43 AM

LAHAINA, Hawaii – Late Tuesday evening, as the gym began to empty, a Maui Invitational employee updated the bracket that hangs on a wall near the concession stand at the Lahaina Civic Center.

Tournament chairman emeritus Wayne Duke couldn’t help but smile at the title game matchup.

“North Carolina vs. Notre Dame,” he said. “Wow – you couldn’t ask for a better championship.”

Indeed, the 2,400 fans who trekked to Maui for this week’s tournament have to be feeling fortunate. It’s not often, after all, that you see the top basketball team in the country face off against No. 2 – especially this early in the season.

But that’s exactly what will happen when national title favorite North Carolina plays Notre Dame on Wednesday. The Fighting Irish might be ranked eighth in this week’s Associated Press poll, but after their performance in Tuesday’s 81-80 semifinal victory over No. 6 Texas, it’s no stretch to say that, four games into the season, Mike Brey’s squad is the second-best team in college basketball.

Right behind the Tar Heels.

Second billing suits Irish - College Basketball - Rivals.com

ALalen1New Member
Nov 26, 2008, 03:24 PM

Don, your dream may be coming true!

CHICAGO -- Is Charlie Weis' job as the head football coach at Notre Dame safe because of the size of his contract buyout? The Chicago Tribune cited sources Wednesday who dispute that.

The Tribune, citing multiple sources, reported that earlier reports on the size of Weis' buyout -- previously said to be as much as $10 million -- are inaccurate. The paper also said that the amount isn't enough to affect whether Notre Dame decides to part ways with Weis.

However, a person with knowledge of Weis' contract told ESPN's Joe Schad on Wednesday that the amount Notre Dame would have to pay Weis is much greater than $4 million to $5 million. The source told Schad that the buyout, which is specified in the contract, is "stupifying."

ESPN - Report: Charlie Weis' buyout figure won't keep him safe at Notre Dame

AND

One source familiar with the contracts of Division I football coaches said the typical buyout would be Weis' base salary times the number of years remaining on his deal.

Weis' base salary from July 2006-June 2007 was $598,000, according to the Ft. Wayne (Ind.) Journal Gazette. The newspaper cited figures from Notre Dame's federal 990 tax form, which requires the school to list its five highest-paid employees.

Weis' contract likely calls for annual increases to his base salary. If that average rises to $650,000, the seven-year buyout would be about $4.5 million.

It has been reported Weis' annual compensation package is worth between $3 million-$4 million, which includes money from speaking appearances, media contracts and apparel deals. Some industry sources dispute that figure, saying Weis' total package is closer to $2 million-$2.5 million.

Whatever the case, a consensus is building among sources with ties to Notre Dame that Weis is in danger of being fired after four seasons.

"He has built zero relationships at the school," one source said. "It has been all about him and his ego."

Sources: Weis' Notre Dame buyout smaller than believed -- chicagotribune.com

PMZQPMZQNew Member
Nov 26, 2008, 03:39 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

It is entertaining how much other teams fans still care about Notre Dame...though a Thug U fan talking about anyone else's arrogance is pretty funny.

Worry about your own team :up:

We have no problems with what is going on at Miami, we are ahead of schedule in fact. Next year, and the year after Miami will be in the hunt for the National Championship. Can't say that about the sorry azz Notre Lamers.

When was the last time the Irish were relevant ? 1989 ? :sidelol:

And to use the word Thug, is inappropriate as its only a disguise for the "N" word.

Miami is on the verge of its 2nd rebirth since Notre Lame has been relevant, and you just can't stand it :yes:

PMZQPMZQNew Member
Nov 26, 2008, 03:42 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Don, your dream may be coming true!

ESPN - Report: Charlie Weis' buyout figure won't keep him safe at Notre Dame

AND

Sources: Weis' Notre Dame buyout smaller than believed -- chicagotribune.com

Alen if he loses by more than 28 this week to U$C he is a goner. No question about it. And expect them to hire........Bill Cower, not Meyer. Meyer has it too good at Florida to leave anytime soon. Notre Dame offers nothing close to Florida, as Notre Dame is living off its past, and the future looks to be bleak.

ALalen1New Member
Nov 26, 2008, 03:51 PM

"PMZQ wrote:

Alen if he loses by more than 28 this week to U$C he is a goner. No question about it. And expect them to hire........Bill Cower, not Meyer. Meyer has it too good at Florida to leave anytime soon. Notre Dame offers nothing close to Florida, as Notre Dame is living off its past, and the future looks to be bleak.

I think he will be gone after the USC loss as well. However, I don't see Bill Cowher being there nor do I see a bleak future. While they haven't been the best team under Weis, they have been an extremely talented one in my opinion. They got top notch talent, just bad coaching and I think if they can find a guy who can actually coach them up, they'll be a good team.

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