Washington Redtails?

"Fin D wrote:

Spoken like a person who has never experienced bias or racism aimed at them.

Would Jews be just big babies if Germans had a rugby team called the Berlin Big Nose Jews? Is that just being insecure?

Your male, lily white ass has literally no business telling people what should or shouldn't offend them when it comes to race or religion.

The day you understand what its like to be part of a group that has been murdered, enslaved, discriminated against is the day you have the right to judge something like this.

I swear to god, this board loses their **** when ESPN appears to slight the Dolphins, but people are just being sensitive little babies when their entire race is mocked by a sports franchise....sigh......

Hehehehe...

U SOO mad. :up:

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Hehehehe...

U SOO mad. :up:

Why is this so funny to you? Why do you get so much enjoyment from people insulting entire races?

"Fin D wrote:

I swear to god, this board loses their **** when ESPN appears to slight the Dolphins, but people are just being sensitive little babies when their entire race is mocked by a sports franchise....sigh......

Smartest thing and keenest insight you've ever had on this board. Bravo.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Fin D you're seriously my favorite poster on this board. I'm sorry if I pissed you off buddy, I just think everyone and everything is fair game when it comes to jokes and what not. I don't get offended about anything so that's how I feel everyone else should be too. Sorry that we disagree on that.

And I laughed really hard when I read the Berlin big nose jews haha. I can't help myself.

Also, engines don't have it so bad these days. They take all our money at their rigged casinos, don pay taxes, and have their own laws.

I care more about upsetting you than I do an entire race of people that will never impact my life.

Look, jokes are one thing. This is entirely something different.

This is a constant reminder that Native Americans have been and still are considered second class citizens and defined not by their historical or cultural importance but how they differ from the white protestants who raped, pillaged and murdered them into submission. You can't possibly relate to that because you've no idea what that must feel like.

Say you cheated on the love of your life. let's say she found out and you were truly remorseful and she took you back. Would you run around wearing a shirt with a picture of her crying over your infidelity, with a slogan that said, "with a face like this no wonder she was cheated on"?

Forget the Native American's stance for a second....weren't they screwed over so badly by us, that it would be the stand up thing to do, to not mock them with something as stupid as a football mascot?

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

My thing about it is that it's 2013 and there aren't any people left that were oppressed during this country's horrible early years. An 18 year old black kid complaining about slavery while he's rockin' $180 Jordan's or the 22 year old son of a casino partner bitching about America's original take over is just ridiculous.

I don't know much about Indian tribes throughout the res of the country but I have visited at least 20 regions up here in Washington because they are everywhere and what I've found is that they are resentful, bitter, and extremely rude to every day patrons or visitors to their reservations. My ex is a bar tender at the Snoqualmie casino about 20 miles east of Seattle. She has worked there for two years and has zero enlightening stories about engines but hundreds of prett nasty ones.

Just calling it how I see it, man.

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today. I whined and cried like a little bitch at first but I've grown up a lot and realized it really didn't matter and just thought it was funny. As someone much wiser than I once said, if it weren't for comedy, life would be awfully tragic.

Do you have any idea how much of a racist you're being right now? In fact, "calling it like you see it" is the very nature of racism.

You act like every Native American owns a casino. Which is ridiculous.

1 in 4 Native American lives below the poverty line. In many reservations there's up to 69% unemployment. A lot of the reasons for this goes back to the past and how they were treated. Not too mention how they are treated today, by people like yourself or even because they aren't taken seriously in part because of the national view of them portrayed by the Redskins or Chief Wahoo.

And you've further enforced my point that you've no idea what its like for people to be bigoted against you, when you think your skinny jeans fiasco is comparable to the plight of Native Americans, Jews, African Americans, women, gay, Latinos, etc. in this country.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

My thing about it is that it's 2013 and there aren't any people left that were oppressed during this country's horrible early years. An 18 year old black kid complaining about slavery while he's rockin' $180 Jordan's or the 22 year old son of a casino partner bitching about America's original take over is just ridiculous.

I don't know much about Indian tribes throughout the res of the country but I have visited at least 20 regions up here in Washington because they are everywhere and what I've found is that they are resentful, bitter, and extremely rude to every day patrons or visitors to their reservations. My ex is a bar tender at the Snoqualmie casino about 20 miles east of Seattle. She has worked there for two years and has zero enlightening stories about engines but hundreds of prett nasty ones.

Just calling it how I see it, man.

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today. I whined and cried like a little bitch at first but I've grown up a lot and realized it really didn't matter and just thought it was funny. As someone much wiser than I once said, if it weren't for comedy, life would be awfully tragic.

Gesus.

"Fin D wrote:

Why is this so funny to you? Why do you get so much enjoyment from people insulting entire races?

Cause u soooo mad

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"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Cause u soooo mad

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I'm not mad....I'm bewildered.

I'm bewildered as to why you are soo upset that people are offended by a racist mascot, that you feel the need to antagonize and troll this topic like you have a personal vendetta against me.

I ask again, (and it would be refreshing for you to sack up and have a thoughtful discussion instead of resorting to this kind of...whatever the hell you call what you're doing....) why are you happy that people are offended? What personal stake do you have in the fact people are offended? What is missing in your actual life that you get off on this sort of thing?

Why are you so mad what me and others think just because it's not what you think?

I admit it I even laugh at black jokes guess I'm going to hell

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"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Why are you so mad what me and others think just because it's not what you think?

I admit it I even laugh at black jokes guess I'm going to hell

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Again, I'm not mad. Why are you avoiding my questions?

"Fin D wrote:

Again, I'm not mad. Why are you avoiding my questions?

You are mad look at all the attacking you did to Aqua, you are emotionally caught up on this issue just admit it and try and move on

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"Fin-Omenal wrote:

You are mad look at all the attacking you did to Aqua, you are emotionally caught up on this issue just admit it and try and move on

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I would think most people with a conscious would be emotionally caught up in issues of racism.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

You are mad look at all the attacking you did to Aqua, you are emotionally caught up on this issue just admit it and try and move on

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Ok, well if we are going to just make stuff up and repeat it over and over and over while avoiding what the other person is saying...then there's no point in trying to engage you in an actual conversation, because you've proven, you are flat out incapable. You literally lack the ability.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today. I whined and cried like a little bitch at first but I've grown up a lot and realized it really didn't matter and just thought it was funny. As someone much wiser than I once said, if it weren't for comedy, life would be awfully tragic.

You're equating skinny jeans to slavery and slaughter. If you cried and whined like a little bitch about skinny jeans, I could only imagine what it would feel like knowing that a few hundred years ago you would have been enslaved simply because of your complexion. You've done a great job illustrating how little perspective you have.

Because I don't care if someone else is offended, I have my own life to live.

Did you go bananas when the movie White Men Can't Jump was released??

It's only words and have zero bearing on everyday life.

"Stringer Bell wrote:

You're equating skinny jeans to slavery and slaughter. If you cried and whined like a little bitch about skinny jeans, I could only imagine what it would feel like knowing that a few hundred years ago you would have been enslaved simply because of your complexion. You've done a great job illustrating how little perspective you have.

Wow.

Keep it up and I'm going to tell a Mod on you.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

My thing about it is that it's 2013 and there aren't any people left that were oppressed during this country's horrible early years. An 18 year old black kid complaining about slavery while he's rockin' $180 Jordan's or the 22 year old son of a casino partner bitching about America's original take over is just ridiculous.

I don't know much about Indian tribes throughout the res of the country but I have visited at least 20 regions up here in Washington because they are everywhere and what I've found is that they are resentful, bitter, and extremely rude to every day patrons or visitors to their reservations. My ex is a bar tender at the Snoqualmie casino about 20 miles east of Seattle. She has worked there for two years and has zero enlightening stories about engines but hundreds of prett nasty ones.

Just calling it how I see it, man.

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today. I whined and cried like a little bitch at first but I've grown up a lot and realized it really didn't matter and just thought it was funny. As someone much wiser than I once said, if it weren't for comedy, life would be awfully tragic.

Are you...referring to Native Americans as "engines?"

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Because I don't care if someone else is offended, I have my own life to live.

Did you go bananas when the movie White Men Can't Jump was released??

It's only words and have zero bearing on everyday life.

Then why are you so offended by it?

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Redtail Hawks isn't too bad of a name. I don't think the NFL needs another bird team.

Washington Presidents
Washington MinuteMen
Washington Marines
Washington Soldiers
Washington Americans
Washington Revolution
Washington Rattlesnakes (due to the don't tread on me flag)

Washington Hogs
Washington Porkers
Washington Pigs
Washington Arnold Ziffels

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Then why are you so offended by it?

Because its just NOT RIGHT! :cry:

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today.

There are no words.

And, frankly, if there was a fighting whities team and logo, I'd be the first person to laugh my ass off. Look at how much **** I've gotten for the whole skinny jeans things from about 5 years ago. I still hear about it today.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Oh come on I didn't equate the two. All I'm saying is people are too sensitive ability damn near everything. That's my point. Whether it's bullying, racism or whatever. If people would laugh instead of getting their panties in a bunch over something that likely has zero impact on THEIR life anyway, we'd have a lot less issues.

It does have an impact on their life. That's what you don't understand. Its why I keep saying you have no frame of reference for understanding this as a problem.

Stereotypes being perpetuated breeds more racism. The more racism, the less opportunities are afforded people who are being discriminated against.

You also need to understand there's a difference between a joke and major symbol not meant for humor.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Maybe I am racist but I don't reserve it for particular groups of people. I'm just as hard on my own type (candy ass white folks or however you described it) as I am any other race. Stereotypes exist because they're real. They don't define an entire race but there are groups of each race that reinforce stereotypes.

Ok Cletus.

Stereotypes are not real. They are small views of a group that are then applied to the whole group. The problem is as those stereotypes are reinforced they cause huge swaths of people to be considered less than other groups. The bull**** you are advocating is how EVERY major tragedy against a race is perpetuated, from slavery to the Holocaust to genocide. Its an infection that spreads and grows.

You are flat out wrong about this Travis.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Because I don't care if someone else is offended, I have my own life to live.

Did you go bananas when the movie White Men Can't Jump was released??

It's only words and have zero bearing on everyday life.

If you're alright with being a racist, that's fine. You have that right. At least you take ownership of it.