Wallace steps in it before he even plays for MIA: Mocks Jason Collins for coming out.

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SumlitSumlitNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:37 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

do you have a choice to be homosexual?

In what way are they different?

Are you saying homosexuality is a disease? Twit that, please.

slickj101slickj101forum_veteran
Apr 29, 2013, 02:37 PM

"schmolioot wrote:

Where's the science that it isn't? And why would anyone choose this lifestyle knowing the difficulties you would face? Completely illogical, if it were truly a chice.

Hence, there isn't a right or wrong answer on it, which was my point.

Who's to say you make the choice when you're an adult and understand the difficulties? Could be it's as simple as when you're a little kid and you pick which color you like best. Who knows.

Silence

It's ******* Golden.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:37 PM

"Sumlit wrote:

Are you straight DJ?? If so, can you imagine yourself being homosexual? If you're straight, you cannot even fathom being sexually attracted to other men. Sure you can acknowledge another man being attractive, or admire him for his physique, but being sexually attracted to another man is something completely alien to a straight man.

Homosexuality is a completely alien feeling, state, nature, whatever, to a heterosexual man. To say so, does not mean you are expressing hate or superiority.

I'm a strait man who cannot think about another man in that way, however, I know there are gay people who feel the same about us..we both should know where the time and place is to make fun of each others preferences..

For him to get say what he did, after hearing about Collins admission to the public, just tells me he's probably prejudice against homosexuals and completely ignorant on the subject of homosexuality, and dumb enough to not figure it out on his own.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:38 PM

"Sumlit wrote:

Are you saying homosexuality is a disease? Twit that, please.

no. I'm saying it's genetic. Down Syndrome isn't a disease fyi.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


Charlie: If you're not as educated or as informed what you do is you start your own party and you yell the loudest.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 29, 2013, 02:39 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

do you have a choice to be homosexual?

In what way are they different?

Well, what is homosexuality?

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:39 PM

Wallace steps in it before he even plays for MIA: Mocks Jason Collins for comin

"unluckyluciano wrote:

do you have a choice to be homosexual?

Exactly. That's the main point here. Do you or do you not? Some feel you do. Some feel you do not. You're just born gay.

Mike Wallace clearly believes it's a choice. I don't think he meant anything in disgust.

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:39 PM

"FinNasty wrote:

To any straight person, homosexuality would be less preferable than being heterosexual. To any gay person, heterosexuality would be less preferable than being a homosexual.

The only types that would not find one more preferable than the other would be bi-sexuals, no?

No, they should be viewed as different, but equal. Being gay does not warrant having someone shake their head at you. Baffling how this even warrants clarification.

“Come on, shake your body baby, do that conga!”

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:40 PM

"Anonymous wrote:

Judging from this post, you care more than anyone. You care a little too much, actually.

I'll tell you why I care, because I know public insensitive things can hurt people, depress people, make people question their existence and self worth..I care because I've felt compassion for kids who are picked on in school because of how the sperm fertiled the fu$$ing egg...

His'nBeatYour'nHis'nBeatYour'nNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:41 PM

"Sumlit wrote:

So far, you've said two things more insulting that what Wallace twitted.

For you, being a Homosexual is the same as having a nationality and suffering a disease.

Your inability to see anything outside a very narrow viewpoint is more insulting (to our collective intelligence) than what Wallace tweeted and apologized for.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:42 PM

"Vinny Fins wrote:

He cares so he must be gay, right?

And thats hilarious because gay = LOL?

this is where I say SMH.

his insinuation was as stupid as Wallace remarks.

SumlitSumlitNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:42 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

I'm a strait man who cannot think about another man in that way, however, I know there are gay people who feel the same about us..we both should know where the time and place is to make fun of each others preferences..

For him to get say what he did, after hearing about Collins admission to the public, just tells me he's probably prejudice against homosexuals and completely ignorant on the subject of homosexuality, and dumb enough to not figure it out on his own.

You are assuming DJ. If you are reaching a conclusion with just assumptions, then are you not as guilty of ignorance as you suppose Wallace is?

The comment was insensitive, no doubt. Throwing that comment like that on twitter without the benefit of context a conversation affords you, was stupid too. But the reaction of people here suggest something more.

Everyone is bashing Wallace for his supposed homophobia and ignorance. His twit does not show that. People are assuming so. People are being guilty of the same ignorance they are reprimanding.

SumlitSumlitNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:43 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

no. I'm saying it's genetic. Down Syndrome isn't a disease fyi.

Down Syndrome is a genetic disease, a mutation. It might not be a disease like a cold, but it a disease.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:44 PM

"Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. That's the main point here. Do you or do you not? Some feel you do. Some feel you do not. You're just born gay.

Mike Wallace clearly believes it's a choice. I don't think he meant anything in disgust.

even if it is a "choice" then it is the result of something firing in his head, which makes it chemical, which makes it what? Something genetic/physiological.
I really don't care what wallace does/doesn't say. But, I can see why people find it offensive.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


Charlie: If you're not as educated or as informed what you do is you start your own party and you yell the loudest.

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:44 PM

Wallace steps in it before he even plays for MIA: Mocks Jason Collins for comin

"djphinfan wrote:

his insinuation was as stupid as Wallace remarks.

I didn't assume you were gay, genius.

SumlitSumlitNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:45 PM

"His'nBeatYour'n wrote:

Your inability to see anything outside a very narrow viewpoint is more insulting (to our collective intelligence) than what Wallace tweeted and apologized for.

My narrow viewpoint? Perhaps you can elaborate. Which of my views do you find narrow?

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:45 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

"I just can't understand why anyone would choose to have down syndrome."

Exactly fu$$inly.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:47 PM

"Sumlit wrote:

So far, you've said two things more insulting that what Wallace twitted.

For you, being a Homosexual is the same as having a nationality and suffering a disease.

no, it means we have no control over what happens at conception..

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:47 PM

Wallace steps in it before he even plays for MIA: Mocks Jason Collins for comin

"unluckyluciano wrote:

even if it is a "choice" then it is the result of something firing in his head, which makes it chemical, which makes it what? Something genetic/physiological.
I really don't care what wallace does/doesn't say. But, I can see why people find it offensive.

I just wanted to point out that comparing it to Down Syndrome was not right

I wish he didn't say it. I don't find what he said offensive but it's a **** storm.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Apr 29, 2013, 02:48 PM

The real problem isn't what he said or how he feels.

The REAL problem is that he put it out there for virtually millions of people to see it.

He's free to say and feel what he wants, but if he puts it out for EVERYBODY to see, he can't be surprised or,upset at what he has coming back his way.

Just keep your controversial opinions off tweeter or farcebook or whatever other public media. THAT is where he crossed the line.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:48 PM

"Sumlit wrote:

Down Syndrome is a genetic disease, a mutation. It might not be a disease like a cold, but it a disease.

yes I know what down syndrome is.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


Charlie: If you're not as educated or as informed what you do is you start your own party and you yell the loudest.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Apr 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

"Anonymous wrote:

I just wanted to point out that comparing it to Down Syndrome was not right

I wish he didn't say it. I don't find what he said offensive but it's a **** storm.

If they are both genetic then yes it is right.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


Charlie: If you're not as educated or as informed what you do is you start your own party and you yell the loudest.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

"slickj101 wrote:

I know I'll get ripped for this but unless someone can show the actual science that proves homosexuallity isn't a choice at some point in one's life, then I don't see how it's fair to assume that it's not.

Just saying.

Man slick, and man with no name, that's a disappointing take on the subject..

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 29, 2013, 02:50 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

The real problem isn't what he said or how he feels.

The REAL problem is that he put it out there for virtually millions of people to see it.

He's free to say and feel what he wants, but if he puts it out for EVERYBODY to see, he can't be surprised or,upset at what he has coming back his way.

Just keep your controversial opinions off tweeter or farcebook or whatever other public media. THAT is where he crossed the line.

Exactly, imo he was more of a punk by deleting the tweet, if you are going to say it, stand by it.

You said it, you own it.

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:51 PM

Wallace steps in it before he even plays for MIA: Mocks Jason Collins for comin

"unluckyluciano wrote:

If they are both genetic then yes it is right.

They aren't.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 29, 2013, 02:51 PM

"schmolioot wrote:

Where's the science that it isn't? And why would anyone choose this lifestyle knowing the difficulties you would face? Completely illogical, if it were truly a chice.

If people at this point in their lives haven't seen enough physical evidence, their just lost in their beliefs or blind faith.

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