Viruses changed human evolution, study shows
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Topdawg13New MemberOP
Italian scientists said on Friday they had found evidence of how viruses helped change the course of human evolution and said their discovery could help in the design of better drugs and vaccines.
They found more than 400 different mutations in 139 genes that play a role in people's risk of catching viruses — a finding that may also help explain why some people sail through flu season unscathed while others seem to catch every bug around.
It is no secret that viruses have affected the human gene map — studies have shown that 8 percent of the genome is made up of so-called endogenous retroviruses, which incorporate their genetic code into ours.
The Italian scientists searched through the genome for evidence of infection and linked it to genetic variation — a method they thought would be a good way to find genes linked with viruses. They found more gene mutations where populations had been infected by many different viruses.
"We found that these genes had been selected — and from this concept we can extrapolate that many of these genes might make you more or less susceptible to viruses," Manuela Sironi, who led the work, said in a telephone interview.
Sironi stressed that the work was "very preliminary" and would need to be replicated by others and tested in the lab.
She also said a similar method to the one her team used could be used to find genes that boost or cut the risk of infections from other bugs such as bacteria.
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GISHforum_veteranEvolution has come to a halt though. Survival of the fittest doesn't apply when the medical system keeps genetically inferior people alive.
Sethdaddy8forum_veteran"Topdawg13 wrote:
Sironi stressed that the work was "very preliminary" and would need to be replicated by others and tested in the lab
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Desidesforum_veteranWell... yeah. We needed a study to show this? I thought this had been established for decades.
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unluckylucianoNew Member"GISH wrote:
Evolution has come to a halt though. Survival of the fittest doesn't apply when the medical system keeps genetically inferior people alive.
that would be true if it wasn't for things like cancer, aids, and such.....
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GISHforum_veteran"unluckyluciano wrote:
that would be true if it wasn't for things like cancer, aids, and such.....
you dont want to debate me on evolution. cancer, aids, and such have little impact on evolution. why? because you only have to survive long enough to reproduce in order to beat evolution. so only children who die of those diseases can stop the growth of human genetics. if we want to rid the world of certain things, it takes cold hearted actions. ask hitler. im not saying he was right for what he did, but he knew how it worked.
unluckylucianoNew Member"GISH wrote:
you dont want to debate me on evolution. cancer, aids, and such have little impact on evolution. why? because you only have to survive long enough to reproduce in order to beat evolution. so only children who die of those diseases can stop the growth of human genetics. if we want to rid the world of certain things, it takes cold hearted actions. ask hitler. im not saying he was right for what he did, but he knew how it worked.
true, however, what was the survival rate of aids and cancer at one point? We have beaten it to a point to where it no longer acts as population control, which means more then likely something else will come along.
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GISHforum_veteran"unluckyluciano wrote:
true, however, what was the survival rate of aids and cancer at one point? We have beaten it to a point to where it no longer acts as population control, which means more then likely something else will come along.
thats true about every plague or disease. until our science learns to stop it, it wrecks havoc. Natural selection never has a chance to run it's course. The world is trying to get rid of us, but we won't let it. Therefore we will never evolve any further.
unluckylucianoNew Member"GISH wrote:
thats true about every plague or disease. until our science learns to stop it, it wrecks havoc. Natural selection never has a chance to run it's course. The world is trying to get rid of us, but we won't let it. Therefore we will never evolve any further.
if its killing people I fail to see how it is ineffective............... not to mention other forms of population control are coming into effect, one thought to be smaller families, i.e. the nuclear family that exists in the united states, that is also related to poverty but you get the point.
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Stitchesluxury_box"unluckyluciano wrote:
if its killing people I fail to see how it is ineffective............... not to mention other forms of population control are coming into effect, one thought to be smaller families, i.e. the nuclear family that exists in the united states, that is also related to poverty but you get the point.
It's not killing enough people, that's why it's ineffective.
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unluckylucianoNew Member"Stitches wrote:
It's not killing enough people, that's why it's ineffective.
define enough? aids is ravaging africa and china....... at least aids is.
edit: I see what you guys are saying, but seems to me like not enough people dying won't be a problem.
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Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"unluckyluciano wrote:
define enough? aids is ravaging africa and china....... at least aids is.
Not killing enough Americans
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Stitchesluxury_box"unluckyluciano wrote:
define enough? aids is ravaging africa and china....... at least aids is.
edit: I see what you guys are saying, but seems to me like not enough people dying won't be a problem. There are other factors, not to mention our technology is a form of evolution IMO. We may not physically advance but we can always advance technology wise.
30% of the population.
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unluckylucianoNew Member"Stitches wrote:
30% of the population.
hmmm i can see what you guys are saying.
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LayfieldNew MemberWhy do people have to die if we can defeat these viruses in different ways? What difference does it make if 80% of the planet died because of Polio or whatever if humankind is capable of coming of with solutions that don't involve so much death.
GISHforum_veteran"unluckyluciano wrote:
define enough? aids is ravaging africa and china....... at least aids is.
edit: I see what you guys are saying, but seems to me like not enough people dying won't be a problem.
if a fast spreading disease breaks out, and only people with 6 toes are immune, then humans have evolved to having 6 toes, because the rest are dead. humans have stopped evolving because we create our own immunity to the environment. Aids and cancer are just 2 ways of dying. They have no more impact on the genetic course of humans than someone falling out a window and dying.
unluckylucianoNew Member"GISH wrote:
if a fast spreading disease breaks out, and only people with 6 toes are immune, then humans have evolved to having 6 toes, because the rest are dead. humans have stopped evolving because we create our own immunity to the environment. Aids and cancer are just 2 ways of dying. They have no more impact on the genetic course of humans than someone falling out a window and dying.
i understand evolution bro lol you are missing my argument, that being that 1) there are still diseases killing millions and 2) there are still other ways to thin the herd, ie the famine in russia and china that occurred during communism, the one in dafur, wars , etc.
I agree though if your argument is like stitches that its not killing enough.
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GISHforum_veteran"unluckyluciano wrote:
i understand evolution bro lol you are missing my argument, that being that 1) there are still diseases killing millions and 2) there are still other ways to thin the herd, ie the famine in russia and china that occurred during communism, the one in dafur, wars , etc.
I agree though if your argument is like stitches that its not killing enough.
yeah, until a disease erases an entire group of people, its just another thing that people die from.
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