Vic Fangio joins the Dolphins

"KeyFin wrote:

Okay, so they've agreed to terms but contracts haven't been signed yet. That's fairly normal- you talk 1st, sign after. Maybe it was a video interview or a meeting away from the offices. This doesn't worry me at all.

Only thing that would worrie me is if the 49ers lose Ryans, that’s probably the only place I could see him going besides here.

"JJ_79 wrote:

Only thing that would worrie me is if the 49ers lose Ryans, that’s probably the only place I could see him going besides here.

Yeah they are probably going to lose Ryans, and we are probably going to miss out on Fangio.

Seems to me Fangio is holding out for a better offer from San Fran once Ryans is gone. We are not his firsr choice and he is only considering us because of the money we threw at him.

This shit is unbelievable, only in Miami. And to think we could have had Fangio last year if it werent for idiot chris grier.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/.amp/news/miami-dolphins-vic-fangio-watch-continues

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah they are probably going to lose Ryans, and we are probably going to miss out on Fangio.

Seems to me Fangio is holding out for a better offer from San Fran once Ryans is gone. We are not his firsr choice and he is only considering us because of the money we threw at him.

This **** is unbelievable, only in Miami. And to think we could have had Fangio last year if it werent for idiot chris grier.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/.amp/news/miami-dolphins-vic-fangio-watch-continues

He would have known the SF job was going to open up so all along that doesn't make sense. Ryans was always getting a head coach job.

I would have an easier time believing he changed his mind because of Sean Payton and maybe he wasn't expecting him to get a job.

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah they are probably going to lose Ryans, and we are probably going to miss out on Fangio.

Seems to me Fangio is holding out for a better offer from San Fran once Ryans is gone. We are not his firsr choice and he is only considering us because of the money we threw at him.

This **** is unbelievable, only in Miami. And to think we could have had Fangio last year if it werent for idiot chris grier.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/.amp/news/miami-dolphins-vic-fangio-watch-continues

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah they are probably going to lose Ryans, and we are probably going to miss out on Fangio.

Seems to me Fangio is holding out for a better offer from San Fran once Ryans is gone. We are not his firsr choice and he is only considering us because of the money we threw at him.

This **** is unbelievable, only in Miami. And to think we could have had Fangio last year if it werent for idiot chris grier.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/.amp/news/miami-dolphins-vic-fangio-watch-continues

I dont blame him, he can look like a genius coaching a team that has 5+ players that can be on the all defensive and even all pro teams.. or he can go with no tax and more comfortable living in Miami..

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah they are probably going to lose Ryans, and we are probably going to miss out on Fangio.

Seems to me Fangio is holding out for a better offer from San Fran once Ryans is gone. We are not his firsr choice and he is only considering us because of the money we threw at him.

This **** is unbelievable, only in Miami. And to think we could have had Fangio last year if it werent for idiot chris grier.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/.amp/news/miami-dolphins-vic-fangio-watch-continues

Don't think he will make more money in SF, it's just the better job and his girlfriend seems to live on the Westcoast and we never were his first choice anyway.

"JJ_79 wrote:

Don't think he will make more money in SF, it's just the better job and his girlfriend seems to live on the Westcoast and we never were his first choice anyway.

Then why agree with Miami assuming he did? He knew that job was going to open.

I think its safe to say that we don't have him. I don't know what went on but this is typical dolphins bs that we have seen forever. Hope the front office knows which candidate we need next.

"Fireland wrote:

Then why agree with Miami assuming he did? He knew that job was going to open.

Don't know, maybe money and leverage? Now with Payton in Denver it looks like the 49ers are not his only option.

Looks like SF
I wouldn’t say this blew up in our face because the Organization never claimed he was signing here, just the hopeful fans
By tomorrow I’m ready to move on to Desai and tell Fangio to hit the bricks

"JJ_79 wrote:

Don't think he will make more money in SF, it's just the better job and his girlfriend seems to live on the Westcoast and we never were his first choice anyway.

And his Mother lives in Florida. so it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other when it comes to personal reasons I think.

We are just going to have to wait and see. However the Dolphins haven't brought any one else in since this last weekend they either KNOW he is signing in Miami or being extremely foolish in not continuing the search.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't exclude either possibility.

Oh good grief:

https://www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2023/1/31/23580781/denver-broncos-head-coach-sean-payton-defensive-coordinator-vic-fangio-miami-dolphins

This guy better make up his friggin’ mind already.

What a cluster-F.

It makes sense though, if you think about it. When the deal with Miami was announced, it looked like Payton would not be returning to the sidelines, so I'm guessing he decided to take the money and the Miami gig. He probably agreed in principle, and while they were finalizing things, the Broncos news broke and the 49ers lost which opened up 2 new options.

I'd compare it to having a fantasy football trade worked out in principle with your buddy, but he hasn't officially clicked that "accept" button in your league yet. While you're waiting for your buddy to accept, he gets a better deal and accepts that.

Super greasy, and screw him if that's the case. He's got the right for sure, but with a small hiring pool of 32 teams, you would think coaching candidates wouldn't be so quick to burn bridges with these types of antics.

Edited to add:

You've gotta be a believer in karma in these types of situations. A year ago, my wife and I made an offer on a vacation property in NY and the seller accepted. There is a 3 day attorney approval window in NY. The seller received a "better" offer while ours was still being approved. They accepted and instructed their attorney to reject our offer. It's generally frowned upon, and considered bad practice in the real estate world but perfectly legal. We didn't lose too much sleep over it and moved on.

A couple months later our agent came back to us and said the deal fell through, and the "better" offer they got came from a couple who had just divorced and could no longer purchase the property. Seller wanted to know if we were still interested. Of course, we politely told them to pound salt.

If this doesn’t go through, then this has to be the final nail in Grier’s coffin, right?

I would also throw this out there: despite what some have claimed, Miami is not at fault here. They interviewed the guy, made an offer and it was reported by others that a deal was in place. Now Fangio is dragging his feet for whatever reason and appears to be considering other options. It doesn’t seem like it’s a ploy for more money, as the Dolphins offer was supposedly enough to make him the highest paid assistant in football.

PS. If he spurns our offer, whatever team he goes to gets added to my hated teams list.

PPS. If he goes to Denver, I say we immediately interview their DC, who did a great job with their D this season.

"Sceeto wrote:

If this doesn’t go through, then this has to be the final nail in Grier’s coffin, right?

Obviously its the Dolphins and its hard to give them the benefit of the doubt when they seem to constantly find themselves in embarrassing situations but its hard to really think they didn't anything wrong here.

Grier has plenty of real blunders without handing him undeserved ones

"Fishhead wrote:

PPS. If he goes to Denver, I say we immediately interview their DC, who did a great job with their D this season.

I like that move. Denver defense gets a coach they probably don't want (I read somewhere there are at least a few players on the team from when he was HC who want nothing to do with him) and Miami gets the one they probably like.

"Sceeto wrote:

If this doesn’t go through, then this has to be the final nail in Grier’s coffin, right?

If Grier’s job was in jeopardy, Ross would have fired him after the playoff game loss. Lets all face the reality that Grier is here to stay for another season.. wouldnt shock me if he gets an extension.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I Lets all face the reality that Grier is here to stay for another season..

I just can't.

"Fishhead wrote:

I would also throw this out there: despite what some have claimed, Miami is not at fault here. They interviewed the guy, made an offer and it was reported by others that a deal was in place. Now Fangio is dragging his feet for whatever reason and appears to be considering other options. It doesn’t seem like it’s a ploy for more money, as the Dolphins offer was supposedly enough to make him the highest paid assistant in football.

PS. If he spurns our offer, whatever team he goes to gets added to my hated teams list.

PPS. If he goes to Denver, I say we immediately interview their DC, who did a great job with their D this season.

If we didnt have such a bad reputation for toxicity and mistreating coaches, I believe he would have signed without a second thought. It still falls on Grier and the FO for giving us such a bad reputation that no self respecting coach wants to come here, even when offerred boat loads of money.

Kris Richard was just let go by the Saints, for whatever that’s worth. Maybe to go to Denver?

PS. Tua is out of concussion protocol finally

I hope we didn't whiff on Fangio. I was so excited about this! Hopefully it's just some delay or something.

"Sceeto wrote:

I just can't.

I want him gone too… i said years ago, ross shoold fire him and back up a brinks truck to Ozzie to get him out of retirement.. but here we are, stuck with Grier.. that position has been pretty terrible for decades on the dolphins…

just for reference, every GM we have had since 2004 has accumulated a below .500 record during their tenure here. Im talking Spiellman, Mueller, Hickey, Ireland and Grier.

Chris Grier currently has a record of 56-58 as the GM of the dolphins.. and watching how we won some of those games, is a miracle in itself. Especially all the questionable dumb stuff we did to our roster right on final cuts with Flores..

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I want him gone too… i said years ago, ross shoold fire him and back up a brinks truck to Ozzie to get him out of retirement.. but here we are, stuck with Grier.. that position has been pretty terrible for decades on the dolphins…

just for reference, every GM we have had since 2004 has accumulated a below .500 record during their tenure here. Im talking Spiellman, Mueller, Hickey, Ireland and Grier.

Chris Grier currently has a record of 56-58 as the GM of the dolphins.. and watching how we won some of those games, is a miracle in itself. Especially all the questionable dumb stuff we did to our roster right on final cuts with Flores..

So, you’re not gonna contribute that record to the coaches we had?

"EasyRider wrote:

So, you’re not gonna contribute that record to the coaches we had?

Who do you think hires the coaches and picks the players? GM is ultimately responsible for everything.

As somebody else mentioned, it could very well be that Fangio is under contract to the Eagles as a consultant and as such, there may be language in his contract that limits his ability to publically announce anything outside of Eagles business while their season is still in progress. Maybe not but, it's a possibility.