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Veteran Free Agents Still Unsigned

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, May 25, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I think Miami has to take a hard look at some vet offensive linemen, including Nick Mangold, Cyrus Kouandjio., and Orlando Franklin. They have a better shot at making the roster than some of the other players that will come to camp. There are depth issues that have to be addressed, esp on this line. In addition, I think we need to bring Revis in for a look. Again, depth issues. I know I will get backlash for this, but injuries happen, and we need depth. There are Jets/Tannenbaum connections here too.
     
  2. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    According to reports they made an offer to Franklin.
     
  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    did not know that. That makes me feel satisfied that they AREN'T satisfied with the line.
     
  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes, but I'm not sure Franklin is much of an upgrade at this point. He hasn't exactly been good the last couple seasons has he? What are your thoughts on what he has left?
     
  5. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Franklin has been playing terrible the last couple of years. He wouldn't be much if at all better than what we have with bushrod and larsen.

    Revis could be an intriguing option if he moves to free safety.

    At this point all free agents available are castoffs with injury or performance concerns. For cheap I would take a chance on some of them.

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  6. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    Revis is not Revis anymore. Guys get old, sometimes faster then you would think.
    Pass.

    Only one of those I'd have interest in is Mangold. I think he's got a good year or two left in him.
    I just don't see Pouncey making an entire season and I wasn't too impressed with our subs last year.
     
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  7. danmarino

    danmarino Quarantining like a MoFo Club Member

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    Some guys fade quickly and some guys get traded to teams in which the scheme is not a good fit. When Franklin played for Denver he had 3 really good years. Gase was the OC for 2 of those years. I think if Gase wanted him he would push for him. I heard the offer the Dolphins gave was really low. So, I'd think that Gase isn't overly impressed with him.
     
  8. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Sign Revis and have him at safety or as backup safety. Would he be FS or SS? Never really understood the difference to be honest.
     
  9. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    one is free and one is strong. :)
     
  10. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Thats helpful bud! Thanks. Now I know everything about it. :crapstrom:
     
  11. 'Phinomenal`Phanatic'

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    SS should be thumpers, and FS should be ball hawks. :loser:
    In an ideal world, both are both, and one would just line up on the "Strong" (TE)side of the offense.
     
  12. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The difference between the two positions is fading. In years last you'd have a distinct difference, now not so much. In many ways it mirrors how the difference between right and left tackle has also been mitigated.

    Really in today's NFL you're looking for guys who can cover moreso than being huge hitters. You don't want wimps back there but given the emphasis on the passing game you'd lean more towards that than looking for in the box bangers. Those types of safeties are more often than being given time as nickel backers and such as defenses want more versatility rather than isolated skill sets that don't cross over.

    That's why a guy like Jabril Peppers was highly sought after by a good number of teams: versatility.
     
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  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Would you say the two most important traits to look for in a safety are physical and mental quickness?
     
  14. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I would say I expect a lot of security and patrolling with a safety. hey what do I know about football, right?
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    I didn't ask you and your answer doesn't even make sense with what I asked.
     
  16. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    LOL
     
  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    lol?

    Seriously, you're not making any sense. "Patrolling" and "security" aren't traits which, mean they have literally nothing to do with my question. And again, the question wasn't asked of you. Had I asked a question of you, it wouldn't be football related as your opinion of football related matters has proven to be as useful English lit degree.
     
  18. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Yes, but I always put mental ability over physical traits. Again I quite Dick Vermeil who said that he prefers guys who have instinct over guys who have just speed.

    No instincts means you'll run yourself out of plays as opposed to guys who have instincts who are already a step ahead to begin with.
     
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  19. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    I assume you're messin around.
     
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  20. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Finally you get it at least


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  21. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    I'm not that old yet.
     
  22. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think it's a "what's he got left" thing. He's not really that old so he shouldn't be deteriorating at least not beyond what experience should be able to compensate for. The question is whether he just played above his level for a couple of seasons and is now returning to his baseline or did he play better b/c he was in the right scheme and had the proper motivation. I don't know that answer, but either way he's probably not more than competent anyways. Competent is better than what we've had here during Tanny's career so that would be an upgrade over last season. But I don't see getting competence out of the group we currently have as an unreasonable expectation either. You're probably right that he may not be much of an upgrade. My understanding is that the contract we offered was pretty close to the minimum so the Dolphins seem to agree.
     
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