UDFAs

"padre31 wrote:

4.19?

Wow, speed, speed, speed.

Alice Davis was kicking from it's grave and screaming when the Raiduhs didn't take him in the first :shifty:

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Bray is a project. 3 years in prison might not be enough. He might never get it lubricated first.

Uhm, you left out a few VERY key words their m8

Bray went to the Chiefs.

Probably the happiest I'll ever be about not signing an UDFA.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Man! Tyler Bray! Thats awesome. This kid has got some skill...Scott Mitchell 2.0? I'm mean seriously...I don't expect him to become anything more than a backup for us but I like Devlin a couple years ago and I really like Bray this year. Those are a couple of good UDFA's. Think we should just cut Moore and let Devlin be the backup. He's earned it in my opinion.

-Plays with very slow and heavy feet, struggles to reset them when moving through options or after a pump fake
-Can’t create space for himself in the open field, very rarely picks up yardage with his feet
-Very slight of frame with a thin lower half

Velocity inconsistencies arise due to mechanical issues, will leave some short passes in the dirt, then laser one in 30 yards downfield
-Mechanics worsen the farther downfield he wants to throw, elongated wind-up gets longer and longer

Very poor decision maker under pressure, game speeds up too much for him
-Incredibly squeamish about hanging in late to deliver the ball, will not sacrifice himself to wait for receiver to break in his route
-Often feels pressure that’s not there and continually backs farther and farther away
-Allows his lead shoulder to fly open when trying to get rid of it quickly under pressure, steps to the side throws with all arm
-Drops his eyes quickly when trying to elude pressure
-Poor handler of the football, very loose with it even when eluding pressure; very fumble prone
-Footwork falls apart if he’s not able to get it out on time with his drop
-Threw the ball up into double coverage late if pressure was on its way on numerous occasions

Locks eyes onto receivers too often which defensive backs can easily follow
-Really struggles when initial reads fail and is forced to improvise outside of the pocket, unable to cover ground to create space or reset his feet on the

Very emotional player, will ride the highs and lows of the team
-Benched in the Vanderbilt game for what the coaches deemed to be “too amped up” causing poor play
-Didn’t improve at the rate most expected since getting 5 starts as a true freshman

Like the two receivers they grabbed. Don't know if the Mount Union guy is ever going to learn to deal with physical coverage but if he does, he's quick enough and he can catch. Bumphis could be a real sleeper if his hands ever get miraculously better.

At the moment, if all these UDFAs are correct, our roster is at 93.
Some people are getting cut before camp.

Bray has talent and if he works for it could be PS this year n next then when Moore departs compete w devlin for backup

Cut Moore? No friggin way

Apparantly KC offered a larger signing bonus. Good for KC I like Bray physical skills, as UDFA great value, but it wasnt like he was our future

we seem to love Oregon LBs, with Clay, Kaddu and Jordan :yes:

Jordan is a DE :(. Also wonder if with pickups of Collins and Bumphis, the poster yesterday that was having a heart attack we didn't have a dedicated slot guy/4th or 5th WR to replace Bess is feeling better today?

I'd like to see us give Greg Reid a shot. Kid was a stud and the ultimate risk taker.

"PhinGeneral wrote:

Or his tight end.

"phinsational wrote:

what if he's used a lot?

Split end?

Not sure which site or signings are legit, but here are three different sites that have differing lists:

nationalfootballpost.com...............................nepatriotsdraft.com.......................................dolphinsdraft.com
Clay Belton, QB, Findlay................................Jasper Collins, WR, Mount Union......................Chad Bumphis, WR, Mississippi State – 5-11 200
Chad Bumphis, WR, Mississippi State................Jordan Kovacs, S, Michigan............................Michael Clay, OLB, Oregon – 5-11 225
Chris Burnette, DL, Old Dominion.....................Rob McCabe, LB, Georgetown..........................Kyle Martens, P, Rice – 6-5 225
Michael Clay, LB, Oregon...............................Clay Belton, QB, Findlay.................................Jordan Kovacs, DB, Michigan – 6-0 195
Jasper Collins, WR, Mount Union.....................Cameron Marshall, RB Arizona State..................Jasper Collins, WR, Mount Union – 5-10 185
Chris Denton, WR, Mount Union......................Keelan Johnson, S, Arizona State.....................Taylor Stockemer, WR, Arkansas State – 6-4 215
A.J. Francis, DT, Maryland.............................AJ Francis, DT, Maryland................................Eric Bergman, OL, Southern Illinois – 6-3 250
Jordan Kovacs, S, Michigan...........................Terrell Sinkfield, WR, Northern Iowa..................Chris Burnette, DT, Old Dominion – 6-3 285
Cameron Marshall, RB, Arizona State...............Michael Clay, LB, Oregon................................Rob McCabe, MLB, Georgetown – 6-1 225
Rob McCabe, LB, Georgetown........................Brandon Ogletree, LB, BYU..............................Alonzo Highsmith, OLB, Arkansas – 6-1 230
Brandon Ogletree, LB, BYU............................Chris Burnette, DT, Old Dominion......................Emeka Onyenekwu, DE, LA-Lafayette – 6-3 250
Taylor Stockemer, WR, Arkansas State...........Chris Barker, OG, Nevada ................................Brandon Ogletree, OLB, BYU – 5-11 230
Keelan Johnson, S, Arizona State...................Sam Brenner, OG, Utah.................................. Clay Belton, QB, Findlay – 6-6 230
Terrell Sinkfield, WR, Northern Iowa................Corey Broomfield, CB/S, Mississippi State...........Cameron Marshall, RB, Arizona State – 5-11 215
Chris Barker, OG, Nevada..............................Peter Tuitupou, TE, SJSU................................Keelan Johnson, S, Arizona State – 6-0 210
Sam Brenner, OG, Utah.................................Pat Ward, OT, Northwestern...........................A.J. Francis, DT, Maryland – 6-5 310
Corey Broomfield, CB/S, Mississippi State.........David Hinds, LB, FAU (Tryout).........................Terrell Sinkfield, WR, Northern Iowa – 6-0 190
Peter Tuitupou, TE, SJSU
Pat Ward, OT, Northwestern
David Hinds, LB, FAU (Tryout)

"peakz wrote:

According to multiple sources, Dolphins sign Tennessee QB - Tyler Bray.

training camp fodder - but so we thought of Pat Devlin. You never know..... :up:

"daniel3 wrote:

Jordan is a DE :(. Also wonder if with pickups of Collins and Bumphis, the poster yesterday that was having a heart attack we didn't have a dedicated slot guy/4th or 5th WR to replace Bess is feeling better today?

He's better standing up, and prefers to play standing up. He is a Sam in the base defense IMO.

Not a huge need for us but UofA QB Matt Scott would be a great backup qb to bring in. Dude is a bad ass and it amazes me that he didn't get drafted

Burnette out of ODU is definitely one of ours. His agent went to one of the local high schools and this is his first class of possible NFL players (he apparently worked for the Redskins until recently). My newspaper has been blowing up about his half dozen crappy prospects, and Burnette was the only one outright signed.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

How bout you shove your unnecessary jackass comment up your ass.:up:

That was not very nice. If you read your initial post, you truly deserve some teasing. It was in a friendly way. How about you pull the stick out of your A$$:up:

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

How bout you shove your unnecessary jackass comment up your ass.:up:

Hahaha he was actually pretty nice considering the amount of ignorance your post had in it. You actually suggested we cut one of, if not the best back-up QB in the league for an udfa with a peanut for a brain, who looked miserable with a 1st and 2nd round WR to throw to.

"Trowa wrote:

Tony Jefferson, Philip Lutzenkirchen, Da'rick Rodgers, Tyler Bray and Chase Thomas would be nice.

Edit: Philip Lutzenkirchen is a Ram.
Edit 2: Da'Rick Rodgers is a Bill.
Edit 3: I got one right, Tyler Bray is a Dolphin

Nope. All wrong. As usgggge. :shifty:

Many of these UDFAs are guys that I'm not that familiar with.

One that I am somewhat familiar with is Jordan Kovacs and he's got my interest. Modern day Rudy. His story is really cool. But you look at what he did at his pro day, this guy isn't just some slow white guy who made good with pure heart. His numbers are better than a lot of the safeties drafted. He went from a regular campus student who had ZERO scholarship offers coming out of high school, rehabbing an old knee injury and biding his time for the next student body open tryouts, to being a defensive STARTER...in about 10 months' time. Fathom that. He's 12th on the the all time Michigan tackles list with over 300 tackles in his career. In his final year he was the team's Bo Schembechler MVP. The fact that he actually put together good numbers at his pro day (4.62 forty, 10'2" broad jump, 35" vertical, 4.25 shuttle, 6.81 cone, 17 bench reps...at 5'11" and 205 lbs) shows how hard he works. He's like Shamarko Thomas except not quite the same natural athlete. He won't be out-worked...by anyone.

Coaches could find him tough to cut when cut down dates come. On tape he's like Dr. Who. He's always there. Watch every defensive snap, if he's not making the tackle, he's coming into the frame on the close-up either right as the ball carrier is taken to the ground, or immediately after. Either way, #32 is always there.

Don't believe me? I counted, against Virginia Tech in the 2012 Sugar Bowl. He wasn't by any means always an "in the box" safety in that game. He was often deep center field or otherwise lined far off the ball, weak side, etc. He blitzed on 4 plays where the ball came out. I don't count those plays. But on the 75 other defensive plays in the game, he was on the field for every single one of them, he physically engaged the ball carrier while the play was still live on an astounding 29 of those plays. He was credited with 11 tackles in this game. But on 18 other players he got to the ball in time to physically engage the ball carrier while the play was still live. Only on 23 out of the 75 non-blitz plays did he not show up in the immediate vicinity of the ball at the end of the play.

That's a guy that is always around the football. As a safety, that's some serious hustle. Hustle aided by athleticism that is better than people probably would've thought.

He either made the tackle or visually came into the camera close up on

Anyone know if Josh Johnson cornerback from Purdue went anywhere? Couldn't find anything

"btfu149 wrote:

Anyone know if Josh Johnson cornerback from Purdue went anywhere? Couldn't find anything

Signed with San Diego.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Many of these UDFAs are guys that I'm not that familiar with.

One that I am somewhat familiar with is Jordan Kovacs and he's got my interest. Modern day Rudy. His story is really cool. But you look at what he did at his pro day, this guy isn't just some slow white guy who made good with pure heart. His numbers are better than a lot of the safeties drafted. He went from a regular campus student who had ZERO scholarship offers coming out of high school, rehabbing an old knee injury and biding his time for the next student body open tryouts, to being a defensive STARTER...in about 10 months' time. Fathom that. He's 12th on the the all time Michigan tackles list with over 300 tackles in his career. In his final year he was the team's Bo Schembechler MVP. The fact that he actually put together good numbers at his pro day (4.62 forty, 10'2" broad jump, 35" vertical, 4.25 shuttle, 6.81 cone, 17 bench reps...at 5'11" and 205 lbs) shows how hard he works. He's like Shamarko Thomas except not quite the same natural athlete. He won't be out-worked...by anyone.

Coaches could find him tough to cut when cut down dates come. On tape he's like Dr. Who. He's always there. Watch every defensive snap, if he's not making the tackle, he's coming into the frame on the close-up either right as the ball carrier is taken to the ground, or immediately after. Either way, #32 is always there.

Don't believe me? I counted, against Virginia Tech in the 2012 Sugar Bowl. He wasn't by any means always an "in the box" safety in that game. He was often deep center field or otherwise lined far off the ball, weak side, etc. He blitzed on 4 plays where the ball came out. I don't count those plays. But on the 75 other defensive plays in the game, he was on the field for every single one of them, he physically engaged the ball carrier while the play was still live on an astounding 29 of those plays. He was credited with 11 tackles in this game. But on 18 other players he got to the ball in time to physically engage the ball carrier while the play was still live. Only on 23 out of the 75 non-blitz plays did he not show up in the immediate vicinity of the ball at the end of the play.

That's a guy that is always around the football. As a safety, that's some serious hustle. Hustle aided by athleticism that is better than people probably would've thought.

He either made the tackle or visually came into the camera close up on

wow, they must have really dig deep then, who would have thought that is possible and i mean that with all the due respect to your knowledge of the college players pool

"MrClean wrote:

Signed with San Diego.

Thanks! Got to follow my Boilers too don't really think he's going to amount to much unfortunately though

Hey you can't know every single one of these guys, lol. Between the ~250 players that are drafted and the ~12 to 18 players every team signs as undrafted free agents...that's over 700 players!