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Tyler Horton waived

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  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    From PFT:

    The Dolphins welcomed safety Reshad Jones back to practice on Tuesday as their mandatory minicamp got underway and they also said farewell to another member of the secondary.

    The team announced that they have placed cornerback Tyler Horton on waivers. No players have been added to the roster at this time.

    Horton signed with the Dolphins after going undrafted out of Boise State this year. He had 46 tackles, a sack and an interception that he returned for a 99-yard touchdown. He had five overall interceptions over four college seasons.

    The move leaves the Dolphins with 11 players listed as cornerbacks on their roster. That number does not include Minkah Fitzpatrick, who shifts between cornerback and multiple other spots on the team’s defense.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    When Adam Engroff gave his notes on Tyler Horton, he sounded largely disinterested to me and all but said that Josh Boyer was the driving force behind signing Horton.

    And that concerns me because when I watched Horton play, I thought he looked clearly speed deficient, and clearly out of his depth against anyone with any talent. A product of a system which didn't ask him to cover much ground. He ran a 4.72 at his pro day but that only confirmed what you could already see.

    There was an article later that featured a lot of Josh Boyer talking about their success in NE finding undrafted free agent corners like Malcolm Butler (the main guy they talked about), Jonathan Jones, and J.C. Jackson. Boyer recalls how Butler ran a 4.62 at his pro day and he and Brian Flores were at the water cooler talking about how there's no way Butler is a 4.62 guy, he looks much faster on tape.

    Evidently, they felt that this history has given them free license to mine corners who ran slot forties, because that's exactly what they did, post-draft. They took Tyler Horton (4.72), Nik Needham (4.67), and Montre Hartage (4.62).

    I think they've got the wrong idea for multiple reasons.

    For starters, they have conveniently forgotten that Jonathan Jones ran a 4.29 at the Combine, and J.C. Jackson ran a 4.44 at his pro day. Neither of them were slow timers or slow players. They went undrafted, the Patriots scooped them up, and they've been successful. For some reason it's all about Malcolm Butler. Why?

    And let's talk about Butler. Yeah he ran a 4.62 at his pro day. But his laser-to-laser Flying 20 (second half of the forty) was 1.87 seconds, which is identical to J.C. Jackson (who ran the 4.44 as I said), and nearly identical to someone like Rock Ya-Sin who went #34 overall this year. When Boyer and Flores got to the water cooler and started talking about how Butler looks faster on tape than a 4.62, they were making an accurate observation. His top speed WAS as fast as those other fast guys. It was just the track start that disagreed with him, and honestly that happens, sometimes. The track start isn't a football move.

    Going back to Horton (1.98), Needham (2.04), and Hartage (1.96), they didn't just run poor forties, they also showed really poor top speed.

    It's really no wonder that, among the corners at camp whose names people don't recognize, Jomal Wiltz has made the most noise. He ran a 4.43 at his Iowa State pro day. He's a legit fast player.

    I think there's a possibility that Montre Hartage could catch on as a pure SLOT corner, but ultimately I doubt it, because he'd probably have to climb above Jalen Davis for that honor, and Davis is a better player IMO. Already we've heard about how Davis intercepted Josh Rosen in the end zone and would've returned it for a 100 yard score. Hartage made a play or two earlier in OTAs, but I just think Davis will put him away, especially in his second year.

    I don't like the sort of reasoning from Boyer on this one and I think he should let the scouts go back to doing the scouting of UDFA corners.
     
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  3. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    At least they moved on quickly instead of just trying to show they were right.
     
  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Technically, he moved on. He decided this isn't for him, and left the team to go be a law enforcement professional.
     
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  5. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I guess you don't need to be that fast to catch crooks. LoL.
     
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  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Don’t know anyone who can run faster than 1500 feet per second
     
  7. AGuyNamedAlex

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    Sonic The Hedgehog. Obviously.
     
  8. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Maybe. While Sonic the Hedgehog’s exact speed has never been stated, it is presumed he is running faster than the speed of sound, varying on ambient air temperature of about 757 mph, or approximately 1100 feet per second.

    Wait, what was the original point again?
     
  9. Silverphin

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    Good luck to him. Better to figure things out sooner than later.
     
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