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Tua's Agent Dropping Miami Hints? Or Nah?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Honestly my experience with medical professionals is they are basically idiots.

    I've had several family members die or not receive proper treatment due to misdiagnosis of disease.

    I've also had a doctor who kept accusing me if drinking red bull and beer causing pain in my sides, even though I didnt drink either at the time AND WOULD NOT STOP.

    So yeah, I have no faith in doctors or their prognosis of anything going forward. It wouldnt be a career ruining lie at all, you just say he had an unexpected set back.

    So maybe I am biased against them, I'm just saying it would really be irrelevant to me what they say, because like I said I believe they are more often wrong than right.
     
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  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    This is what is known as "anecdotal" evidence and has zilch to do with how Tua has been diagnosed, treated and rehabbed. When his medical team is out there making public positive prognostications, it's because they (who are likely many steps ahead of your local doctors) are the elite in their profession and are confident in their work. They aren't going to lie and risk undermining their elite status. These aren't your local ER doctors or family practitioner. Just as some athletes are better than others, some doctors are better than others. An elite athlete will be treated by an elite doctor.
     
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  3. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    My main issue is multiple injuries the last couple years playing in college and what his durability will be getting hit by faster and stronger players in the NFL. I’m not against taking him, I just don’t want to use our top pick on him. Too big of a risk imo.
     
  4. tirty8

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    Is that the narrative we are going with?

    Lamar Jackson, the likely league MVP, lost to Derek Henry who had a historically good playoff run.

    If you would take RT17 over Jackson, I've got nothing for you.
     
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  5. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I was comparing Ross's belief that Lamar Jackson was a great prospect at QB, combined with his faith in Tannehill. Miami decided against both options though and the point was that it had to bother Ross quite a bit watching that playoff game KNOWING THAT his GM's passed on both players.
     
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  6. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    You're assuming status = skill and that isnt necessarily the case. I can point to a lot of people with "status" in their field who arent doing anything but taking up oxygen others could be breathing.

    Now, I admit my view was overly pessimistic but to flat out assume because someone has a certain status they are always right is equally as ridiculous to me.

    Even if you dont want to call it "lying" which I dont think I directly said, if I did I'll walk that part back. It still doesn't imply you should consider their opinion 100% accurate.

    Also I'd like to point out the hospital my experiences have occurred at is actually probably the best (or one of at minimum) in at least Florida. So I'd expect accuracy from them.
     
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  7. cbrad

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  8. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    frank gore had 3 ACL reconstructions on the same knee, before he graduated college/was drafted.
     
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  9. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    Bo took 5 years to be diagnosed. Tua took 5 seconds.
     
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  10. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Gore was drafted in the 3rd round. Definitely worth taking that kind of risk at that point in the draft. My issue is taking that big of a risk with the 5th pick.
     
  11. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    RB vs QB.
     
  12. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Gore would have gone in the first, early second at the latest, without the injury.
     
  13. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    So?
     
  14. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    So I was responding to "RB vs QB." Which implies that it's different somehow because of their positions. But Gore would have been a first round pick and he dropped two rounds, so what's the difference? Tua is a QB whose game depended a lot on mobility. Not running, but keeping a play alive. If that mobility is affected by the injury, his stock may drop, just like Gore's did. We'll find out more after April, I suppose, when he works out for teams.
     
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  15. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    The difference is Tua is an elite level QB prospect who will likely be throwing before the draft and not on his third knee tear.

    The reason Gore was brought up in the first place was to show that sometimes the 'injury risk' thing can be overblown. I don't know if I entirely agree with that premise (and I didn't bring him up), but regardless, there we are.
     
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  16. Tin Indian

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    TeamTrenchBuilders. Nice. Well you can count me in. No line then it doesn't matter what other pieces you have. How many exhibits of guys blowing up through the middle of the line do you need?

    That said, Tua should be our 1st pick. I watched more Bama football then I can stand this year till he was Hurt. He can play. I only have durability concerns with him but if he can "red shirt" behind Fitz AND Rosen this season other than some mop up duty he should heal well and learn at the same time. I am good with it.

    Another note, I'm in that camp that you should draft a qb every year or two. Never know what you may find.
     
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  17. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Look, I apologize, I didn't mean #teamtrenchbuilder as an insult. We definitely need an offensive line. You are totally right about that.
     
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  18. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    No problem. We're good.
     

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