Tua named starting QB

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

This could get as dangerous as the Josh Rosen experiment. I personally think we killed Josh Rosens career. We almost killed Tannehills. We could easily kill Tua in ten weeks.

Don't be ridiculous re Josh Rosen - he already had 16 games of bad tape on his resume from Arizona. We gave him a look and he didn't take the chance - was there anyone on here who wanted him to play out the season for us last year after the poor play in the 2nd & 3rd games he played when he had the chance?
Ryan is a different matter - he was let down by successive coaching regimes and he needed a change of scenery for him to be able to rehabilitate his career. He wasn't hurt by the current coaching regime - it resurrected his career going to the Titans, as he would not have had the chance last year behind our 2019 Oline

"Sceeto wrote:

OMFG!!!!! Did you see Fitz??? WT-?? I'm a tough enough guy, but man....damn...that's rough.

Man, I know I am in the minority and that's where I usually like it. This move, at this time, just totally sucks the big arse. This is nothing against Tua. As I've said before, this move just reeks of Stephen Ross and I speculated about it when it first happened and now I see Florio and others around doing the same. Why mess with the momentum? I understand that now would be a good time to insert a new QB with the byweek and all if that's what you plan to do, but I see no reason to do that now. I think it is a bad plan. As we know, there have been several great QBs who sat and strengthened for awhile and they are guy who didn't hav e a major injury and surgery just a year ago! Now, as we know Coach Flo, being a standup guy and all, he lets Fitzy know like this? Nah.....something reeks big time. This sucks. I'll always support all my phins come game time, but.........

You are right, it is pure speculation and the likes of Florio and the rest know as much as the rest of us - precisely nothing.
Flo called Fitz into his office and talked to him about it - he told him coach to player. There's nothing wrong with that - Flo probably didn't like the game that Fitz had against the Jets, as he didn't play well from about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter.
So if Tua gives us a better chance of winning, you won't support that? Go and find another team then

"Patster1969 wrote:

You are right, it is pure speculation and the likes of Florio and the rest know as much as the rest of us - precisely nothing.
Flo called Fitz into his office and talked to him about it - he told him coach to player. There's nothing wrong with that - Flo probably didn't like the game that Fitz had against the Jets, as he didn't play well from about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter.
So if Tua gives us a better chance of winning, you won't support that? Go and find another team then

The Miami Dolphins owe Ryan Fitzpatrick nothing. He's a bad quarterback that sometimes has a great game.

Fans really have to get over this whole "but he's such a nice and goofy guy with a funny beard" thing.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

The Miami Dolphins owe Ryan Fitzpatrick nothing. He's a bad quarterback that sometimes has a great game.

Fans really have to get over this whole "but he's such a nice and goofy guy with a funny beard" thing.

You're absolutely right, the Dolphins owe Fitzpatrick nothing. He knew he was the placeholder...the bridge to hold the team together until Tagovailoa was named the starter. He knew that once day Tua was going to be taking over and KNEW this day was coming sooner or later.

From a personal aspect, does it suck? Does it hurt? Is it a bit confusing seeing how you just had back to back blowout wins? Does it feel as if the organization doesn't appreciate what Fitz? Yes, yes, yes and yes. From the emotional point of view all of these questions answer yes but referring to the first paragraph of this post, everyone knew this day was coming most of all Fitzpatrick.

As a quarterback referring to his play, Fitzpatrick isn't a great quarterback. Let's be completely honest here. He's playing for his 8th team in his 16 year career. That's 1/3 of the teams in the league. If he was a great quarterback he would be the face of a franchise. Don't get me wrong, the man can play. Every team Fitz's played for, he's shown flashes of brilliantly bright, blinding light but like a flash of lightening, it's here for a second and gone the next.

Now while as a fan, I TRULY appreciate everything Fitz has done for the Dolphins. He's played better than I thought he would, he's been a true mentor and teacher and he's been a true leader to the team. As most will recall, I was one of the ones VERY skeptical (and still am to a degree) about drafting Tagovailoa. I felt the team had way too many issues to be putting all of our eggs in one basket with the drafting of Tua but this is not the same TEAM. This is not the same culture as previous regimes. I am a bit skiddish and nervous about Tua starting now but for the reasons I stated in my last post, this "racecar" has proven it can run...it's time to see if Tua can really drive.

And, if you thought Fitzpatrick was going to make this cinderella deep playoff run just stop now.

"Patster1969 wrote:

You are right, it is pure speculation and the likes of Florio and the rest know as much as the rest of us - precisely nothing.
Flo called Fitz into his office and talked to him about it - he told him coach to player. There's nothing wrong with that - Flo probably didn't like the game that Fitz had against the Jets, as he didn't play well from about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter.
So if Tua gives us a better chance of winning, you won't support that? Go and find another team then

Hahaha! This is just gibberish. I can't really respond without breaking the site rules. Ok. Your opinions hold the most credibility. :up:

Articles already coming out saying exactly what I thought would happen. Some players are allegedly confused about the change and dont like it.

Couldnt read the full article because it was on Sun Sentinal and I cant bypass their payment requirement.

Again, i dont think this decision has anything to do with Fitzpatrick’s play. We have won two straight, and Fitzpatrick was big in those wins.

this is about transitioning a young highly touted first round quarterback prospect into a starting role with a solid surrounding cast. Usually teams have bad surroundings around their quarterback prospect and throw them in the fire. The dolphins have the benefit of giving Tua an opportunity to succeed from the get-go. Tua is tapped in as the future and face of the franchise. Fitzpatrick is not a franchise quarterback he was a placeholder.

also with the Houston pick being what it is, the Dolphins want to see what they have in Tua now. He cant go out there looking frail and undersized like Pat White. Hes got to look like he belongs in this league.

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

Articles already coming out saying exactly what I thought would happen. Some players are allegedly confused about the change and dont like it.

Couldnt read the full article because it was on Sun Sentinal and I cant bypass their payment requirement.

Yes you can-

Step 1) Clear cookies & read article.

Step 1a) Use a different browser & read article (Chrome, FireFox, Edge, Explorer, etc all have their own sets of cookies).

Step 1b) Use incognito mode & read article. If that fails, you're collecting cookies in incognito mode...go back to step 1.

Step 1c) Use a different device & read article.

Step 1d) <pro users only!> Use your regular browser and as soon as the text on the page loads, hit the "x" button to stop the page loading any further (this is the button that turns into the refresh icon once the page is fully loaded). The lead image loads 1st, then the page text, then ads, then other images, then the pay-wall. So if you're quick on the draw, you can stop the paid prompt to read the text every time from your regular browser. Ultra-fast internet makes this very hard to time correctly, but it's easy on slow to average internet speeds.

Step 1e) <ultra pro users only!> If you're a tech nerd and know your way around browsers, you can block certain sites from storing cookies on your device entirely. I've never done this and the step by step would be different for each browser, but we all need to learn this eventually- just block cookies on the Herald, Sentinel, Palm Beach Post, etc. They track us using our systems and it's completely your right to deny that!

"KeyFin wrote:

Yes you can-

Step 1) Clear cookies & read article.

Step 1a) Use a different browser & read article (Chrome, FireFox, Edge, Explorer, etc all have their own sets of cookies).

Step 1b) Use incognito mode & read article. If that fails, you're collecting cookies in incognito mode...go back to step 1.

Step 1c) Use a different device & read article.

Step 1d) <pro users only!> Use your regular browser and as soon as the text on the page loads, hit the "x" button to stop the page loading any further (this is the button that turns into the refresh icon once the page is fully loaded). The lead image loads 1st, then the page text, then ads, then other images, then the pay-wall. So if you're quick on the draw, you can stop the paid prompt to read the text every time from your regular browser. Ultra-fast internet makes this very hard to time correctly, but it's easy on slow to average internet speeds.

Step 1e) <ultra pro users only!> If you're a tech nerd and know your way around browsers, you can block certain sites from storing cookies on your device entirely. I've never done this and the step by step would be different for each browser, but we all need to learn this eventually- just block cookies on the Herald, Sentinel, Palm Beach Post, etc. They track us using our systems and it's completely your right to deny that!

I tried incognito and it still brought me to the pay to read this article page. I'll try the other things, incognito is usually how I bypass the Herald.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1319005324142125065

Someone else using the racecar analogy? Damn, I'm a freaking genius...that or psychotic....or psychic...the one that doesn't blow up buildings!

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Someone else using the racecar analogy? Damn, I'm a freaking genius...that or psychotic....or psychic...the one that doesn't blow up buildings!

Dr. Psycho?

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Dr. Psycho?

:lol:

"Sceeto wrote:

Hahaha! This is just gibberish. I can't really respond without breaking the site rules. Ok. Your opinions hold the most credibility. :up:

Which bit is gibberish, I am interested? So because my opinion is different to yours, I am wrong?
Fitz came out and said that Flo called him into the office and told him the decision - is that not true then?
Has there been any proof at all that Ross had anything to do with the decision - again, I am interested if you have seen some proof of this apart from speculation in the media, as I haven't?

FitzMagic is upset he lost the job? Didn't he realize he was a "slump buster" or "practice girl?" Come on, man, Tua was essentially the #1 pick in the draft who fell a bit because of injury concerns. FitzMagic should be happy to have had gotten to ball out for a few games; it'll set him up nicely for his next half-year gig on a team desperate for a starter.

"Cashvillesent wrote:

FitzMagic is upset he lost the job? Didn't he realize he was a "slump buster" or "practice girl?" Come on, man, Tua was essentially the #1 pick in the draft who fell a bit because of injury concerns. FitzMagic should be happy to have had gotten to ball out for a few games; it'll set him up nicely for his next half-year gig on a team desperate for a starter.

He's been benched 40 times in his career he should be used to it.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

He's been benched 40 times in his career he should be used to it.

Did Fitz dump your sister or something? You seem to really hate the guy.

He was rooting for Rosen last season, probably still is.

Show some respect to Tua Tsunami.

I like to compare his play similiar to Brett Favre.

So, baby Favre?

Although Im not a Dolphins fans. I think you guys have a really bright future.

"Cashvillesent wrote:

FitzMagic is upset he lost the job? Didn't he realize he was a "slump buster" or "practice girl?" Come on, man, Tua was essentially the #1 pick in the draft who fell a bit because of injury concerns. FitzMagic should be happy to have had gotten to ball out for a few games; it'll set him up nicely for his next half-year gig on a team desperate for a starter.

Of course he was upset he lost the job, he loves playing football and realized he could have started his last game. He's just going to be a year older next year. The press conference was chopped up for quotes selling far more drama than was there. He was honest about feeling sad with losing his job. And, unlike last year, when Rosen started, Tua is clearly the future. He called Josh starting last year a sink or swim situation, which it was. Josh sank, and Fitz took the job back. He clearly doesn't expect Tua to sink. He also talked about how his job now was to support Tua however he can, preparation wise, what he is seeing game day from the D, etc... Basically, continuing the mentorship. He said that it takes the whole QB room to have success in the NFL. That narrative doesn't drive clicks so it is being ignored nationally.

He laughed when talking about how he's in a job where the day after being fired he's in a zoom meeting with the guy who fired him, in a room the guy who replaced him. The way that quote was used wasn't the way he said it.

"Two Tacos wrote:

Of course he was upset he lost the job, he loves playing football and realized he could have started his last game. He's just going to be a year older next year. The press conference was chopped up for quotes selling far more drama than was there. He was honest about feeling sad with losing his job. And, unlike last year, when Rosen started, Tua is clearly the future. He called Josh starting last year a sink or swim situation, which it was. Josh sank, and Fitz took the job back. He clearly doesn't expect Tua to sink. He also talked about how his job now was to support Tua however he can, preparation wise, what he is seeing game day from the D, etc... Basically, continuing the mentorship. He said that it takes the whole QB room to have success in the NFL. That narrative doesn't drive clicks so it is being ignored nationally.

He laughed when talking about how he's in a job where the day after being fired he's in a zoom meeting with the guy who fired him, in a room the guy who replaced the very next day. The way that quote was used wasn't the way he said it.

It wasn't the media for me. A few things he said rubbed me the wrong way.

Saying he got fired when he didn't. There are a lot of people really struggling right now. While sucky, he went from starting quarterback to not starting quarterback. He still can play this season if Tua is injured.

Saying that he had to go into meetings with the person who fired him and the person who replaced them. Saying that is rare. When it isn't rare. It is very common. At least in the tech/IT field. I have known many people who have trained their replacements. Heck, similar things happened to me.

And the selfish fan thing I want to be excited about Tua and see the talks about Tua. Not feel sorry for a Journeyman who is on his 8th team.

Honestly, I don’t love the move considering we are in contention and have a winning streak. At this point, I trust Flores and they need to see what we have. We have a lot of draft capital that will shape our organization next year. Not that they’re drafting a QB, but it may impact how they decide to build around him or whoever our QB is.