Tua is not the Problem

Signing a 41 year old Rivers out of retirement. That would really showcase Tua's amazing arm strength.

 

He is a 26 year old former MVP in a league where even Danny Dimes might get 40 million. Teams will pay in every way.

 

The Brady to Miami rumors have begun again.



It's gonna be a wacky couple of months.

 

What the actual fck

 

Mando's a hack.

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If the Giants give Jones $45m/year, they either see something no one else does, or they are insane.

 

If Tua is not it, why the heck would we give up two first rounders and lock ourselves out finding QBs in the first round?

 

Because the Dolphins are a completely inept and dysfunctional franchise.

WHY WOULD YOU EVER use a top 10 pick on an undersized, injury-prone QB, coming off an horrific hip injury?

 

Harping on Tua for his injury history while giving up 2 first rounders for Lamar Jackson is like calling a 92 Civic slow while buying a Smart Car.

 

You really think Tua and Lamar's injury history are similar? Tua's hip and concussions are the ones that actually end careers. Lamar has also been able to stay healthy two full seasons. Something Tua hasn't since high school.

 

Despite starting the rumor Rich Eisen is currently laughing at the reports that Brady is going to Miami

 

Lamar Jackson hasn't stayed healthy since 2020. And leg injuries can end careers, too.

 

Well Tua has NEVER stayed healthy in the NFL (or college), and Tua's injuries are much more likely to end a career.

Not really close whose future is more uncertain health wise.

 

Lamar Jackson's future is not certain enough to warrant two first round picks.

 

I dont like either Tua or Jackson as our Franchise QB. We are better off signing Brady for another year or two and then take another shot at the draft in a couple of years, hopefully this time with someone other than Grier making the picks.

 

If that's an option, sure. However, I don't know how realistic Brady is.

 

Even if Lamar gets the non exclusive and nothing happens until after the draft there is no way Miami can front load enough of the money to scare off Baltimore from matching.

 

My guess is, Tua will stay, we are drafting/trading up to get a quarterback either late first or early second. And we sign a vet qb

 

And of course the dolphins are going to look into trying to upgrade at quarterback. Grier nor McDaniels are going to tie their careers on a guy that may have chronic brain problems.

 

Off to Atlanta it is then

 

That was more the move they would make if they are trying to keep him.

They can now be assured they are paying market value - the cost of two 1st rounders.

 

He is worth more than that. Guess they have to hope nobody gives him something front loaded because they have no space.

 

He's worth more than what?

 

2 first rounders. Does depend on where the first rounders are but he would get more than that if they openly shopped him.

 

Of course, but my point is the paying team needs to include 2 1st rounders. So that is part of their cost and valuation. What they would pay might be higher if there weren't 2 1sts attached as well. So the Ravens can be sure they are paying market value minus the value of the 2 1st rounders. That's what they'll need to match.

 

That isn't anything scary when you consider the value of QBs in this league. If a team thinks he is worth the guaranteed money then its a bargain for only 2 first rounders. That is without considering this could happen after the draft making that cost even less.

 

Why do you respond with a strawman? Nowhere have I argued that we should go after Jackson.

It is a FACT that it was a stupid choice to take Tua at that spot. REGARDLESS, of how Tua ultimately turns out, it doesn't change a thing. Taking an undersized, injury prone , weak armed QB who was coming off that horrific hip injury was stupid. You take him in the second. No higher.

 

It's more certain than Tua.

 

Not according to Silver...

 

That's fine, but the Ravens are still getting a discount on the market value of him because they aren't paying two first rounders to sign at the same price.

 

I said before the draft that Tua is a second rounder.. and got ridiculed here. They all got info from some guy on twitter that used to post around here that Tua was the Jesus.

i also said on these boards ill take Jalen Hurts over Tua any time, any day. We can pass on drafting a quarterback that early if we cant get burrow. And we will take Hurts with a mid first or early second.. and people laughed at that idea…

i even backtracked on my stance on Herbert.. because i hated watching him play for Oregon, he just smelled like Eli Manning.. but that combine was so impressive that i was like fine, if we are going to take a quarterback with that high of a pick… we could look at Herbert.. he reminded me of Tannehill, with all the off the chart measurements.. but he was not as raw as Tannehill was coming out of college station.


The idea of drafting an injury prone, tiny quarterback coming off a hip injury, from the same academy high school/academy of Marcus Mariota.. all the qbs in that system in hawaii basically play the same way throughout college except Marcus was not throwing to 3 first round pick receivers in Oregon.. what Marcus did statistically in Oregon was more impressive than throwing to the fastest 3 first round picks (smith, ruggs, waddle).

 

Not according to the head coach either.

 

So the source said Mike likes Tua? We know Mike likes Tua. Does Ross like Tua? That's what actually matters here.

 

If the Jets get Rodgers. Dolphins going to be fighting for 3rd with NE. What a depressing future.

 

Again, MY POST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH JACKSON OR ANY OTHER QB. That clear yet?

It had EVERYTHING to do with the fact that HE was a bad pick at that high of a pick. We would not be in this position if they hadn't picked him that high.

 

Rogers took a big step backward last year, not afraid of him, especially with a better defense under Fangio.

As an aside ... looking at the contract that Daniel Jones just signed ... take that 5th year option for Tua to the bank.

 

And yet, knowing I was talking on the subject of using picks on two first round draft picks, you still responded, which you have the right to do. But don't complain about me talking about Lamar Jackson if you know that was the tangent I was on.

 

Ross hasn't interfered with Daniel yet. And considering his meddling shut us out of the first round of the upcoming draft, I don't expect him to interfere here.