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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Feb 20, 2021.
He's gonna throw 80 TDs this year
Let‘s hope it’s not for Houston…
Anyone know if he had input on the new QBs coach?
Tua following the Goku model of success?
Success. Defeat. Train harder. Success. Repeat.
Will we see him go Super Saiyan 1 in year two?
Let's hope so!
It's freaking February. Do we really have to criticize Justin Herbert for taking a day off to play golf in FEBRUARY???
The Tweets are clearly more about Tua than they are Herbert. Nothing complicated about it. It's the offseason, down time, not a lot of news, but people are glad to see Tua getting to work early.
It’s only February and you can see the clear size difference in Tagovailoa. The Dolphins last game was January 3rd. This is February 20th...47 days ago. I’ve weight trained. Granted I didn’t have the luxuries that Tua has but to put on that much size in such a short period of time is remarkable.
Yes, we do.
Good God! I really thought last year that he looked skinny out there.
He looks quite different, in a good way though.
So remarkable that it almost worries me. Clearly he's with a trainer eating right, working out right and everything else the right way. 10-15 pounds of muscle after the 1st month is possible with the right training, but it does look like he packed on more than that. Hopefully he's not taking too many supplements since there's so much risk there. If I was an NFL athlete these days, I'd be terrified to step inside a GMC store. So hopefully he has the right trainers that know how to make those gains safely.
He wasn't allowed to have much high intensity workouts last off-season I would imagine. This should do nothing but excite Miami Dolphins fans.
We already have one knucklehead saying he's worried about him taking illegal supplements. lol
The kid is a hard worker. Very happy he is their quarterback.
I have worked out with heavy weights for 30 of my 54 years on this earth and I have never seen anybody with that drastic change in 2 months without help from juice.Just like an actor getting for an action movie.
The good news is the nfl usually doesn't test until the middle of april.Plenty of time to get it out of his system.
Actors actually do this crazy Spartan thing or something to get jacked for some of these superhero roles. The chain is that it's all done without steroids.
Nah they juice.Just like hulk hogan lied about juicing in the 90s.U seriously think the Rock is natural?
Been a Gym rat for. 30 years I know.
Yeah Tua looks like The Rock
My point is u can't transform ur body that quickly without being enhanced!.
I don't give a **** as I'm sure he won't get caught.Hell half half those dudes juice anyway and smart ones don't get caught.
I like it. Get him and the new QB coach/OCs together as soon as permitted. I was going to suggest that he get with his receivers and work on routes and timing but who knows if he knows who will be here in August? Or if there will be a training camp?
I'm seriously thinking he's going to make the leap this year but if there's no off-season program again, it might not be as big as it otherwise might be.
No I don't think the Rock is natural. I'm talking about guys like Hugh Jackman getting shredded to play a superhero, or when Russell Crowe got jacked to play in Gladiator.
I agree that professional wrestlers are all juicing...as are many guys in pro sports.
Look the haters are gonna hate. It doesn't matter that the guy is going beast mode and getting in the shape he should have been last year. He's not going to get props for that. They are going to find whatever the mantra is to support their position.
It's great he's doing what he's supposed to be doing. The NFL is year round THERE IS NOT OFFSEASON. Especially since he didn't play up to ours and his expectations. But NOT everyone is doing this. Glad to see the drive WHEN YOU DON'T have to be having the drive in the "offseason".
I wasn't implying that he's taking steroids or HGH, but there's hundreds of banned supplements in the NFL and a large portion of them can be purchased in a GNC store. Young players really have to be careful due to the league's super-strict policies- it's impossible to memorize the entire list of 300+ names you can't pronounce. Even then, scientists combine this ingredient and that ingredient to make a new ingredient, which may not be fully listed out on the bottle.
I've spent the majority of my life in the gym as well and it's fairly obvious who's taking additional supplements (legal or otherwise). My favorite was always the guys with massive arms/chest benching 350+ pounds with pencil legs. I always thought, "Would it kill you to do a few squats and leg curls while juicing?"
I completely agree- he deserves massive props for taking this seriously and working his tail off. I just hope he's with the right nutritionist.
Yeah, you can't knock the kid for being humble and having a great work ethic. I've got other reasons why I wouldn't have drafted him, but those are two truly rare and positive attributes, especially for today's "professional" athletes. Props to Tua. Hope the hard work pays off and he proves me wrong about him. Would like nothing more than to see him succeed.
When I went into Marine Corps boot camp I weighed 149 pounds and I was solid muscle except for my chest. When I came out I weighed 178 pounds and I still didn't have much of a chest. That was a 29 pound gain in 8 weeks, (boot camp had been reduced from 11 weeks to 8 weeks to get more men faster for Viet Nam) without any supplements.
Most guys had body weight increases or decreases from 5 to 15 pounds. Normal procedure then was to be fitted for your uniform the beginning of boot camp and then re-fitted at the end of boot camp due to changes in body proportions being expected.
Since this kind of body change was clearly the norm, and mostly muscle growth coupled with fat loss, the result is a combination of those two competing differences. If you were lean like me, fat loss didn't occur to much of an extent. This indicates that 15 pounds a month is not a remarkable weight gain, just a little uncommon.
I think The Rock is as natural as Russell Crowe or Hugh Jackman now.
The Rock never really got Hulk Hogan big during his time in professional wrestling, and even though he is a mountain of a man, he also has great genes for being an athlete from both sides of his family.
Three months between the photos, one is him flexing and pumped, the other is him cold (Denver in late November) and huddled. Steroids as the explanation is an absurd deduction. One cannot really tell how much muscle he has even put on.
If he put on 5 pounds of muscle and lost body fat he would likely look like he does right now. And over 3 months with a trainer and nutritionist it would be easy to do. He looks stronger, not like hulk hogan...
I like that Tua is healthy. I hope that he stays healthy. But I'm much more concerned about how he passes the football. Fingers crossed he looks a lot better doing that in pads this year than last.
I can't agree without knowing how much was play call vs. how much was Tua.
There is always "the elephant in the room" of the effect of the play call, when judging a QB's play.
Consider Fitz's miracle pass last year. Clearly that was an incredible effort by Fitz. The question in my mind is, was that in combination with a good play call or bad play call? Along with that there is the fact that all great passes have two independent elements; the throw and the reception. Sometimes when your playing well, everything just "clicks" like a watch mechanism and works as planned and sometimes you just get lucky and end up with a good play.
It's seldom, if ever, entirely the QB unless he is running with the ball. It's just that the QB is the point of attention once a play gets started. The difficulty in identifying what the exact play call was as opposed to knowing the general play call i.e. pass or run or even something else, usually gets lost in the excitement.
Some people claim to know what play was called but I doubt it. They may get it right once and a while but what the heck, even a blind pig can find an acorn now and then.
I think that the play calls were poor, as was the general offense. However, I also think that Tua just flat out looked like a bad passer regardless of the outcome. So, we'll see if more time removed from the injury helps that, but I wasn't enthusiastic about him before he got hurt in college, either.
The play you're referring to was a designed play based on that CB/safety combo in zone/prevent coverage. For whatever reason, that corner was up close to the line and released with the receiver, but only followed him a few yards before sitting in the flats and reading the QB. That gave the receiver about a 30 yard cushion from the safety on that hash WAAAAAY back and the Dolphins had already spotted that flaw in coverage before the snap.
So Fitz knew EXACTLY where that ball was going pre-snap...roughly 25-30 yards down the left sideline to what they hoped would be a wide open, uncovered receiver. By itself, it shouldn't have been enough but you know the rest of the story....the face mask, the insane accuracy, etc. That was 100% the play call though from what they saw in the moment, then it was 100% Fitz for doing the impossible on that throw. Great sideline catch as well, so everyone did their job on that one except the lazy CB and the offensive lineman who missed his block (can't remember which gap let in the immediate pressure).