To cure the Offensive woes....

I see it pretty much the same way, only I'd go with two Te's and a Fb formation and just pound the ball with Ricky and Ronnie.

Sparano has done a great job so far, I do wonder if he has overthought things and moved away from what the base offense personnel can do to win games.

"padre31 wrote:

I see it pretty much the same way, only I'd go with two Te's and a Fb formation and just pound the ball with Ricky and Ronnie.

Sparano has done a great job so far, I do wonder if he has overthought things and moved away from what the base offense personnel can do to win games.

That is what I was going after Brother. Let's play power running the ball football. It just like the wildcat was a round peg in a square hole on Sunday. I like Ricky running the ball more then I do Ronnie. Cobbs needs to touch the ball as well running, and catching.

lets watch Ginn streak down the sideline for 40 yards wide open for the rest of the year with nobody to throw the ball to him and then watch post after post pop up saying he sucks. Thats my vote.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

That is what I was going after. Let's play power running the ball football. It just like the wildcat was a round peg in a square hole on Sunday. I like Ricky running the ball more then I do Ronnie. Cobbs needs to touch the ball as well running, and catching.

What amazes me is we have one of the creators of modern power running football as the offensive coordinator, Dan Henning was a part creator of the One Back offense, we could ride Ronnie like Washington rode Riggins and Gerald Riggs and George Rogers to playoffs after playoffs.

It's boring to watch though...really boring..not quite Wannyball but close, the did take more chances than Wanny ever did.

"padre31 wrote:

What amazes me is we have one of the creators of modern power running football as the offensive coordinator, Dan Henning was a part creator of the One Back offense, we could ride Ronnie like Washington rode Riggins and Gerald Riggs and George Rogers to playoffs after playoffs.

It's boring to watch though...really boring..not quite Wannyball but close, the did take more chances than Wanny ever did.

I think Ricky would be the one to ride, and let him go wild. I am sorry but I am not as high on Ronnie Brown as the rest of the family is.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

I think Ricky would be the one to ride, and let him go wild. I am sorry but I am not as high on Ronnie Brown as the rest of the family is.

Well, the cool thing would be is the offense would be designed to facilitate whichever running back had the ball, even Pat Cobbs.

As for Ronnie, he takes some time to warm up, like 7 carries then he starts rolling, which is a bad thing with Sparano's dedication to splitting carries.

"padre31 wrote:

Well, the cool thing would be is the offense would be designed to facilitate whichever running back had the ball, even Pat Cobbs.

As for Ronnie, he takes some time to warm up, like 7 carries then he starts rolling, which is a bad thing with Sparano's dedication to splitting carries.

We have Ricky, Patrick, and Lex to use if Ronnie is not having a good game running. Plus we could use Ronnie as a receiver as well. We need to keep defenses guessing, and right now we are not doing that at all.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

We have Ricky, Patrick, and Lex to use if Ronnie is not having a good game running. Plus we could use Ronnie as a receiver as well. We need to keep defenses guessing, and right now we are not doing that at all.

I agree that RW is deserving of more touches and is out playing Brown.....however, the last thing I wanna see is us putting more pressure on Penny and asking him to do more.

Unless it's asking him to hand the ball to Henne and be a coach..

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

We have Ricky, Patrick, and Lex to use if Ronnie is not having a good game running. Plus we could use Ronnie as a receiver as well. We need to keep defenses guessing, and right now we are not doing that at all.

Lexxy would be the H-Back.

And the 1 Back does not really keep defenses guessing, so that would be a drawback, but our Oline is supposed to be our strength and some good smashmouth football would allow them to form some cohesion.

BTW, "Whoo's"? Is that meant to be "Woes"?

"padre31 wrote:

Lexxy would be the H-Back.

And the 1 Back does not really keep defenses guessing, so that would be a drawback, but our Oline is supposed to be our strength and some good smashmouth football would allow them to form some cohesion.

BTW, "Whoo's"? Is that meant to be "Woes"?

I just walked through the door after a long day bro.

"jetssuck wrote:

I agree that RW is deserving of more touches and it out playing Brown.....however, the last thing I wanna see is us putting more pressure on Penny and asking him to do more.

Unless it's asking him to hand the ball to Henne and be a coach..

I want Chad to feel comfortable that with a succesful run ning game, he just has to manage, and keep the defense by playing honest. I want to see some medium range passes completed, and not all dink and dunk that the defense can just sit on.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

I just walked through the door after a long day bro.

Hear ya Bro, I got an unexpected min vacation myself...which means no money coming in...not so good really.

As for the offense, I cannot believe we will be as unprepared for the Colts, not at home and not on MNF.

"padre31 wrote:

Hear ya Bro, I got an unexpected min vacation myself...which means no money coming in...not so good really.

As for the offense, I cannot believe we will be as unprepared for the Colts, not at home and not on MNF.

This week will be important to get Jake back on his feet, and prepared for Fenney. I think Jake will bounce back.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

This week will be important to get Jake back on his feet, and prepared for Fenney. I think Jake will bounce back.

Carey had a crap game as well, for all the focus on Jake, VC gave up two sacks as well, to me we should run at those DE's to get some hits on them and slow them down a bit.

And it helps that they are not on Turf this week and it will have been two weeks since the semi legendary 2.5 hour final practice...the one Erik Walden passed out after...the players should have their normal legs back by Monday.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

I want Chad to feel comfortable that with a succesful run ning game, he just has to manage, and keep the defense by playing honest. I want to see some medium range passes completed, and not all dink and dunk that the defense can just sit on.

Honestly, I just don't think you can expect much more from him than what you have been seeing. Even on the intermediate stuff, the WR has to have some serious separation for the ball to get there before the defender can close on it.

I think that's why u see Penny just standing there like that in the pocket....he's desperately trying to find a window he can fit the ball into.

I want to see Chad Pennington under center, not on the fricking side line any more.

I've never been a big proponent of the Wildcat. I know many here are, and that's cool. Is it a fad, or is it here to stay? And, I don't just mean The Dolphins, I mean the NFL. Well, I reckon we'll just have to see how it all shakes out. I think when it's used sparingly, and under the right circumstances, it can be very effective. But, I just don't know that it works as a staple of your offense, every game. But, that's just one man's opinion. And, really...what the hell do I know? :confused2:

As far as Ronnie vs. Ricky, and while Ricky may have looked better last Sunday, there is absolutely no doubt (at least in my mind) who the better RB is. Thing is, regardless of who is better, they're each gonna have games in which one of them is gonna have the hot hand. So, you ride the hot hand. In that respect, I think they are arguably the best RB tandem in the league. So, guess what...run the ball baby! Like FFIC said...let's play power run football. And, when opposing D's start stacking the line, then you challenge them through the air.

But, like I said before...what the hell do I know? :blush:

"padre31 wrote:

Carey had a crap game as well, for all the focus on Jake, VC gave up two sacks as well, to me we should run at those DE's to get some hits on them and slow them down a bit.

And it helps that they are not on Turf this week and it will have been two weeks since the semi legendary 2.5 hour final practice...the one Erik Walden passed out after...the players should have their normal legs back by Monday.

Carey is really the one that scares me the most.....he looks lethargic out there at times. Like he's just not into it

Long if nothing else, should be serviceable even in the worst case scenario. Carey hasn't impressed me in a long time....even last year I thought he was under-achieving

"jetssuck wrote:

Honestly, I just don't think you can expect much more from him than what you have been seeing. Even on the intermediate stuff, the WR has to have some serious separation for the ball to get there before the defender can close on it.

I think that's why u see Penny just standing there like that in the pocket....he's desperately trying to find a window he can fit the ball into.

That O Line needs to be stuck together like glue this week. During, and after practice as well. Need to put some extra time in. They need to get better together and give Chad some time to do his thing. At the same time, Chad has got to get rid of the ball.

Dolphins would be so much better if we had a dynamic Runningback.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

That O Line needs to be stuck together like glue this week. During, and after practice as well. Need to put some extra time in. They need to get better together and give Chad some time to do his thing. At the same time, Chad has got to get rid of the ball.

When he had time he had poor vision. Chad needs to pull it together as well as the rest of the team. Receivers were open the entire game.

"jetssuck wrote:

Carey is really the one that scares me the most.....he looks lethargic out there at times. Like he's just not into it

Long if nothing else, should be serviceable even in the worst case scenario. Carey hasn't impressed me in a long time....even last year I thought he was under-achieving

I think they have a view of what a RT should look like, and Carey has put on weight to fit their template, in 07 he was an okay LT, since he moved back to the RT he has really porked up and it effects his mobility too much imho.

But that is also all the more reason to run the ball more often, why have tap dancing bears when they could be mauling people instead?

"padre31 wrote:

I think they have a view of what a RT should look like, and Carey has put on weight to fit their template, in 07 he was an okay LT, since he moved back to the RT he has really porked up and it effects his mobility too much imho.

But that is also all the more reason to run the ball more often, why have tap dancing bears when they could be mauling people instead?

Well thats what coach said they were going to work on. Pushing defenders don field.

"huck1974 wrote:

Well thats what coach said they were going to work on. Pushing defenders don field.

I also think Smiley and Thomas are not fluent in the offense, if Surferosa's stats thread is accurate, both had horrendous games last Sunday.

Thomas has the pec issue and Smiley is coming back from a compound broken leg so they may need time we don't have to get up to speed.