Ryan Tannehill

"Dummuck wrote:

It is a fact that Fitz know how to read the defense far better then Tannehill He runs because he knows that there is no place to throw in time and runs with it....Tannehill on the other hand stays in the pocket and holds on the ball too long and gets sacked..

I'm not sure Tannehill's issue in that regard is reading defenses, because he seems to often be unaware of the pass rush around him even when it arrives relatively soon after the snap. I think the issue is that he has a limited ability to divide his attention between what's happening downfield and what's happening around him in the pocket. So he's going through his progressions downfield, with a diminished awareness of what's happening in the pocket.

Then when his awareness of the pass rush becomes unavoidable, he transfers his awareness from downfield to it and attempts to move, but by then it's often too late to evade the pass rush successfully and he's sacked.

Watch Joe Burrow by contrast. He's going through his progressions and moving in response to the pass rush at the same time.

"Fin-O wrote:

I have adopted the Titans from here on out, nothing would make me happier than watching them beast thru the AFC.

This Bills defense is killin' Houston...they din' come to play.

Houston ain't helping, dropping gimme INTs.

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

This Bills defense is killin' Houston...they din' come to play.

Houston ain't helping, dropping gimme INTs.

Well coached team with a solid defense and a QB that keeps the chains moving by any means necessary.

Hard not to root for them to be honest.

"Fin-O wrote:

Well coached team with a solid defense and a QB that keeps the chains moving by any means necessary.

Hard not to root for them to be honest.

Never...absolutely hate the Bills. But they're putting together a great team.

That crazy trade Houston made for Tunsil...and that line is getting abused like it's Miami's OL AT Buffalo.

I don't even hate the Bills. I hate the Jets even more than the Patriots.

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

That crazy trade Houston made for Tunsil...and that line is getting abused like it's Miami's OL AT Buffalo.

Tunsil has 14 false starts on the season and two today.

Alright Ryan Tannehill, this is your moment of truth..

I wish him well, hope he can meet this challenge, he deserves success..

Boy did Josh Allen fall apart there....wow...

Let’s show support for our guy. Let’s go Tannehill!

Tannehill lol. Unreal

It is obvious who the best player on the Titan offense is, but they have a PERFECT Qb for that amazing running game. LB's even on 3rd down are scared to get deep, Ryan stays in the pocket knowing they are coming and delivers a great ball.

Titans UP!

"djphinfan wrote:

Alright Ryan Tannehill, this is your moment of truth..

I wish him well, hope he can meet this challenge, he deserves success..

A little more than the usual “challenge”. It’s almost impossible to win there for ANYONE.

So far so good. Threw a dime for a TD with pressure in his face.

This looks like it's going to be a barn burner, so Tannehill will be needed....

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Boy did Josh Allen fall apart there....wow...

Maybe he had a concussion, but Allen made some really bad decisions near the end of regulation and even in OT. He looked lost sitting on the bench. Real questions about him will linger till he plays better in big games. The Bills D also folded when it mattered most.

Not a team I'm going to worry about that much unless Allen shows a lot of growth.

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

Maybe he had a concussion, but Allen made some really bad decisions near the end of regulation and even in OT. He looked lost sitting on the bench. Real questions about him will linger till he plays better in big games. The Bills D also folded when it mattered most.

Not a team I'm going to worry about that much unless Allen shows a lot of growth.

He looked like an impulsive nut.

Pats are doing to the Titans what everyone thought the Titans would do to the Pats.

Titans are just happy to be in the playoffs and are playing like it.

Now, if New England gets up by a significant margin and Tennessee has to pass the ball to come back, prepare for Tennessee's offensive line to look bad!

That's what happens when opposing defenses know you have to pass!

In fact, take a look at how frequently even just two or three rushers get pressure on a hail mary play.

Massive stop there for Tannehill's sake.

Titans defense with a great stand. The offense needs to move the ball, at least for a FG try, and don't let the Pats have a chance for more points before the half.

Just keep feeding Henry!

Great drive by the Titans! Amazing how a run game makes a team so much better.

Titans looking good. You’d think they were losing by 20 based on some posts here.

"The Guy wrote:

The point highlighted above I'll address myself since the article I posted above doesn't do it. Excluding the Denver game, the correlation between Tannehill's number of pass attempts and his passer rating, on a game-by-game basis in 2019, is -0.87, meaning that as he has thrown more passes, his passer rating has plummeted.

That wouldn't be a potential issue if 1) a similar correlation was seen in the league as a whole, and 2) Tannehill didn't have significantly fewer pass attempts per game than the average quarterback in the league. But neither of those things is true.

First, the correlation between pass attempts and passer rating throughout the league, on a game-by-game basis in 2019, appeared to be about -0.03, meaning that there is no relationship between those variables in the league as a whole. Second, Tannehill has attempted roughly 27 passes per game, which is lowest in the league. The league average in 2019 was roughly 35.

In fact, although there is likely a very high degree of error involved given the small sample size (which is another issue in itself), Tannehill's predicted passer rating in 2019, given just a league average number of pass attempts per game (let alone more than average), would be 98.4, about 19 points lower than his actual mark of 117.5.

The league average passer rating this year was 90.4, and so an individual passer rating of 98.4 -- eight points above the league average -- likely wouldn't have been significantly different from how much better he was than the league average in either 2014, when his mark of 92.8 was nearly four points above the league average of 88.9, or 2016, when his mark of 93.5 was roughly four points higher than the league average of 89.3.

So there is some merit to the idea that Tannehill is benefiting from simply being asked to throw the ball a lot less than the average QB in the NFL. And again, the other QBs in the league don't enjoy that same benefit in terms of passer rating from throwing the ball less. The question is, if you're going to pay Tannehill a large sum of money after this season, can you count on being able to ask him to throw the ball just as infrequently, or is that an unrealistic expectation for your team?

Anyway, there are lots of people here with strong feelings and strong opinions. My personal perspective on the issue is that Tannehill is experiencing a "perfect storm" of sorts, in a positive way for him, which is attested to by the info above and the article I posted above. Only time will tell whether his performance is sustainable and whether I'm correct or mistaken.

The above continued in the first half today, where Tannehill had a mere 9 pass attempts. By contrast, Brady had more than double, 22.