Thorough Brian Billick interview from 560 discussing Fins, Ireland, Flynn etc.

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  1. caneaddict

    caneaddict Season Ticket Holder

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    Anyone who missed the Billick interview from the Michael Irvin show today here's the link:

    http://wqam.com/index.php?page=781

    Sounds like he would be very interested in the Phins job as long as he gets to be involved in the personnel conversations with Ireland/Peterson and is not just brought in to stay quiet and focus purely on X's and O's
     
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  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Post whoring tonite, but Billick has pretty much always said the same thing, only after Sparano was fired he started using "vision with the GM".

    FWIW, Jimmy Johnson does not understand the Fisher hype, says (paraphrasing) that "my he sure has not had a lot of winning seasons" and when asked about Fisher to Miami, points out "has Billick been interviewed yet"?
     
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  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I thought that was a fascinating interview with Billick. Interesting that he still is under the belief that Carl Peterson has been named President when that is supposedly not going to happen now. When he talks about a partnership with the GM and the personnel decisions, I think he wants some say there. Maybe not final say in trades or free agent acquisitions. But rather who to keep on the 53 when cut down day looms in late August. He mentioned that he advocates what the Falcons did with Mike Smith and Tom Dimitroff and how the owner brought them in together at the same time. Says he likes how that was done. Ultimately its up to the owner though and what he wants as the vision of the team. I like Billick a lot. Very smart cerebral coach.
     
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  4. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Hire this man.

    Or Fisher. Or Bowles.
     
  5. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I really don't see the hype with Billick to be honest. He never stuck out in my mind as an exceptional coach; I always found it funny that he was supposedly an "offensive minded coach" when they offense was never that good and they were always known for their defense. Plus, he has been out of the league for about 5 years. That is a long time to not coach a down and come back as a Head Coach. The game and its schemes, trends, etc change so much that even a year of is a challenge, much less 5 years. It was a completely different game back then.
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    IMO, the sign of a great coach is knowing how to adapt to the strength and weaknesses of your team. Remember some guy named Don Shula? Billick knew the strength of that Raven team was its defense. They did win a SuperBowl with Trent Dilfer at qb. Is that outdated? Maybe. But Billick knows (if you listened to the interview) that today's game is different. He talked about the Pats and Packers having the #1 seeds, but also having the worst defenses in the league. He knows it's a qb driven league now. And if your not sold on what you got, you'd better get something better. He said of Moore that he thinks he's a good quarterback but would need to study his tape in depth before making a final decision on him.
     
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  7. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I have a problem with coaches who have been out of coaching for a while.
     
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  8. CaribPhin

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    As a co-ordinator he ran a talented offense in Minny. A record breaking offense. In Baltimore he didn't really have a shot at too many slam dunk QB's. He drafted Jamal Lewis instead of Pennington which was the right move but passed on him again for Travis Taylor which was a bad one. He passed on Brees for Todd Heap. He had just won a Super Bowl with Dilfer so I don't think QB was his priority. The Ravens also got Grbac who had put up some numbers at the time. I can't blame him for passing on someone 31 other teams passed on the year he won the super bowl. Looking back at his drafts, in the absence of a good QB, the Ravens almost always made good first round picks. Here's the first round picks during his tenure:

    Chris McAlister - Pro Bowler
    Jamal Lewis - 2,000 yard rusher
    Travis Taylor - Should have taken Pennington here
    Todd Heap - Pro Bowler; addressed above
    Ed Reed - Possible HOFer
    Terrell Suggs - Full-time football player, all around monster
    Kyle Boller - Bad pick. Had a great career at Cal, but never panned out. Missed out on some damn good players like Tillman, Nnamdi, Mathis, and Boldin.
    Mark Clayton - Once bitten, twice shy. Two spots later, Aaron Rodgers got drafted by the Packers. Most likely didn't want to mess with another Cal Tedford QB. Compounded by the missing of Roddy White. Clayton did have a stellar career at Oklahoma though.
    Ngata - Monster
    Grubbs - Solid starter

    Now usually, after leaving the game a coach will see where they made mistakes. Gruden does his college QB camp and you can tell he loves young QB's. What is truly scary about Billick is that he seems to not have learned much about the QB position being important, and he doesn't appear to be good at QB evaluation. He co-ordinated Cunningham in Minny, and has watched QB's take the league by storm. But here's his 2011 Mock Draft:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Brian-Billick-2011-NFL-mock-draft-042711

    No thank you if he wants player acquisition power.
     
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  9. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I think Ozzie Newsome was responsible for all those drafts not him though.
     
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  10. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    No thank you!

    BB got fired because he didn't kick a field goal against a winless team, US! We just got rid of a HC who didn't know when to kick and when to not kick a FG and some want us to hire another? GET REAL!
     
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  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Maybe my memory is hazy... but what?
     
  12. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    My favorite SAT Question:

    Tony Sparano is to Offensive line as Billick is to ______.
    A. Offense
    B. Quarterback
    C. Both
     
  13. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    You can look at his time with the ravens like this, but you can also look at how he hitched his wagon to Boller and how poorly that turned out. How much of that was him and how much of that was Newsome, we'll never know, but either way they hitched their wagon to the wrong QB and it killed his opportunity there except for the year that Ravens D came together and beat everyone...
     
  14. Larryfinfan

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    Ummmm....Ozzie Newsome has always had personnel power in Baltimore, not the coach. That's where any blame for selections need to go, not necessarily to the HC. That said, something has to be said for his ability to get to and win the SB with Trent Dilfer... Seriously, if you look up mediocre backup QB in the official NFL dictionary, it'll have Dilfer's picture...
     
  15. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Billick wasn't advocating for personnel power. Far from it.

    He said it's truly a GM's league now. That the league has become so complex that one man can't wear all the hats. "One-stop shop" as he put it.

    Billick said it's got to be a partnership between coach and GM. At least for him. He said that's what he had in Baltimore with Ozzy Newsome. That sometimes he'd convince Ozzy on something and other times Ozzy would convince him. He said there has to be a structure of power in place (Ozzy had personnel power), but he and many other established head coaches aren't looking for a situation like in Tampa, where -- judging by who they're interviewing, per Billick -- Mark Dominick is looking for a guy to just coach and be quiet, etc. while he wields all the power.

    Listening to his words, it's pretty clear to me that Brian Billick would not be calling plays either. He talked about his "3 AM Rule". If youshould wake up at 3am (like he does) and you're thinking about whether 'the dig be at 14 or 18 yards', you're probably an offensive coordinator type. If you're thinking about cap decisions, draft, etc. you're probably the personnel guy. If you're thinking about who are you going to hire to coach this position, who am I going to keep on the 46 man roster, implementing structure, etc......well you're probably more of a head coach.

    "What are you thinking about? Because that's who you are."

    He said some of these guys wearing multiple hats (like head coach/playcallers) are getting a bit overwhelmed out there. If you're waking up thinking about that dig route, "well then who's being the head coach?" and you're probably missing some things during the week's preparation and/or on gameday.

    It's pretty clear to me that he does want to coach. Says he's a coach and always will be. Like a lot of guys, he's got that fallback of TV that is fun. He's clearly not as in demand as Bill Cowher, but I think he's doing more specific work than Cowher in that he preps for calling games each week. And, of course, he talks about returning to coaching openly. I think he could come back and do it.

    Billick said Miami would be a great opportunity to restore a prestigious franchise to greatness. Says he doesn't know Jeff Ireland so obviously they'd need to see if they could form that partnership. Has a lot of respect for Carl Peterson (who he was under the impression was hired as team president).

    Talked about Matt Flynn and the history of failure of guys who flashed like that. Says it's a small sample size, and you'll have to pay for admission, but it's probably a risk worth taking. Thinks Flynn's tape is just enough to make it worthwhile.
     
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  16. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There is no reason not to bring him in for an interview, window shpping.
     
  17. Ohio Fanatic

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    wrong....see record setting Vikings offense. your comparison is completely irrelevant only because Billick had one great offense and one bad offense whereas Sparano had nothing, done nothing, still proven nothing. And furthermore, even though his offenses looked ugly, he focused on running the ball and had team rushing totals that were to be admired - typically 1600-2400 yds/season, and some of those with RBs like Terry Allen. Jamal Lewis had over 2000 yds I believe under Billick. The man played to his team strengths. In Minny, it was passing, in Baltimore is was rushing and defense.
     
  18. caneaddict

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    If you listen to his interview, it's clear he now understands the need for a franchise QB. He specifically discussed the #1 seed teams in the playoffs having the worst defense in the NFL.

    However, that link you shared is pretty enlightening. He knows the importance of offense and QB but I think he's a poor evaluator of QB talent. He obviously felt Cam Newton would be a bust based on the snippet he wrote next to Washington's pick. Also, he felt Gabbert would succeed. I remember an interview with him once where he was asked what he regretted most from coaching and his answer was Kyle Boller. He didn't regret taking Boller and trusting him, he regretted not getting more out of Boller and coaching him or putting him in a better position to win because he still felt Boller had the skills to be as good as any QB in the league.
     
  19. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I'd take Billick over any of the other guys who have been interviewed. Except maybe Fisher.
     
  20. Pandarilla

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    He's very good at staying out of the way of his playmakers. Recognizes what hand he's been dealt. He's a character.
     
  21. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    How is it that Mularkey is getting an interview (if that thread is true), but Brian Billick isn't?
     
  22. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I have my guess......
     
  23. ChrisKo

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    Not sure I can ever get over Brian talking smack to Madison from the sideline during a game - Holding up the ring saying, "This is the closest you'll ever get to one of these". I wonder if Sam ever approached Brian later to show off his NYG ring for beating the Pats?
     
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  24. djphinfan

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    I just don't like this kind of pursuit for a coach.. Not sure if I'am gonna be able to get my point across here but,The man has no interest in us before it became known, he's looking at it from a total business like decision ya know, there is nothing in his heart...I mean Iam sure there are coaches hired like this who have has success, but I wouldn't be suprised if there was some evidence favoring coaches who had ties to the organization and got promoted, men who developed a passion first before they got the job..IDK

    I wanted Fisher because in his case I felt he was well removed from his feelings and is going to fall in love with his new team..however, the fact that he has to think about whether he wants to be our coach, is like your girl thinking about being with another man..Fu^% that..I want someone who is devoted...

    Billick is different from Fisher, Fisher didn't take a job as analyst, cause he wants to just be a coach, and be committed to that next team, its all about money it seems..of course he'd be interested, Ross has put it out there that he will pay his coaches and players top dollar, but I just don't see the passion for us..not sure if that makes sense.
     

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