This team is not even close.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Everybody on this site that said we have made progress is wrong.
The 2015 dolphins will be 6-10 or 8-8 again at best.Way to many holes to fill and we don't have a coach that can hide our shortcomings.We need to replace both guards, two starting lbs, cb, free safety,
Wr, and a ****ing kicker that can kick it out of endzone to hide our ****ty special team coverage.
Not to mention a new Dc.Worst defenceI the last 6 games in recent memory.

What are the lottery numbers for next week?

"pumpdogs wrote:

Everybody on this site that said we have made progress is wrong.
The 2015 dolphins will be 6-10 or 8-8 again at best.Way to many holes to fill and we don't have a coach that can hide our shortcomings.We need to replace both guards, two starting lbs, cb, free safety,
Wr, and a ****ing kicker that can kick it out of endzone to hide our ****ty special team coverage.
Not to mention a new Dc.Worst defenceI the last 6 games in recent memory.

We have our health!

Two Pro Bowl players. Number of Pro Bowl players correlates with win percentage at 0.74, with the range being 0 to 9, and the average being 2.7. Yep, a good ways off.

Saying we're not close is foolish. We could easily be a playoff team next season. Tannehill is blossoming and that's the most important thing.

We making the playoffs next year baby

"pumpdogs wrote:

Everybody on this site that said we have made progress is wrong.
The 2015 dolphins will be 6-10 or 8-8 again at best.Way to many holes to fill and we don't have a coach that can hide our shortcomings.We need to replace both guards, two starting lbs, cb, free safety,
Wr, and a ****ing kicker that can kick it out of endzone to hide our ****ty special team coverage.
Not to mention a new Dc.Worst defenceI the last 6 games in recent memory.

Before the year, I thought we were close, after the way we closed the season this year (struggling with jets in first game, Baltimore kicking our ***, patriots destroying us, struggling with first year in rebuild mode Vikings team, and then the lowly jets dismantling us in second game), it is very apparent that next year is our destruction year... we used to be viewed as a team on the upswing but I dont think that's the case anymore. Coaching is holding us back and Ross doesn't mind our horrible coaching, ultimately, we are doomed.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Saying we're not close is foolish. We could easily be a playoff team next season. Tannehill is blossoming and that's the most important thing.

As the WR corps, O-line and entire defense crumbles around him. Not to mention the ineptitude of the coaching staff.

I think Miami's going to be hard pressed to get back to 8-8 next year.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

As the WR corps, O-line and entire defense crumbles around him. Not to mention the ineptitude of the coaching staff.

I think Miami's going to be hard pressed to get back to 8-8 next year.

Well, that's what the off-season is for. Things certainly need to get fixed. But we finally have a QB and I'm damn excited about it.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Saying we're not close is foolish. We could easily be a playoff team next season. Tannehill is blossoming and that's the most important thing.

Tannehill is not the problem the defence since denver is the worst defence in the nfl.The offensive line is a mess and special teams coverage is horrible.Tannehill can get even better and it won't matter.Dont even get me started on what I think of philbin.

"yoge wrote:

We making the playoffs next year baby

No way. Philbin will be fired a year late just like big tony.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Well, that's what the off-season is for. Things certainly need to get fixed. But we finally have a QB and I'm damn excited about it.

To many holes to plug in one season.

"pumpdogs wrote:

To many holes to plug in one season.

Every team has holes. The key is filling the right holes this off-season.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Well, that's what the off-season is for. Things certainly need to get fixed. But we finally have a QB and I'm damn excited about it.

I'm excited about Tannehill as well...but that's literally about it. He and Lamar Miller are about the only two players who appear to give a damn week-to-week; I'd have said the same about Branden Albert, but he's been on IR for over a month. Yes, I'm omitting Wake and Grimes intentionally. Grimes has been dog$h!t the past month as well, so there's that.

This team's not going anywhere until Stephen Ross sells it or dies. Lord knows even if he does fire Joe Philbin - it'll be two years too late if he does during/after 2015 - he'll screw up the next hire. That is literally where this team sits.

Ok answer this question.Do we have more holes to fill going into 2014 season or 2015 season?

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Every team has holes. The key is filling the right holes this off-season.

That was said last year too, but our OL is still horrible. Miami is run by morons and that's a problem you can't fix this offseason.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

I'm excited about Tannehill as well...but that's literally about it. He and Lamar Miller are about the only two players who appear to give a damn week-to-week; I'd have said the same about Branden Albert, but he's been on IR for over a month. Yes, I omitting Wake and Grimes intentionally. Grimes has been dog$h!t the past month as well, so there's that.

This team's not going anywhere until Stephen Ross sells it or dies. Lord knows even if he does fire Joe Philbin - it'll be two years too late if he does during/after 2015 - he'll screw up the next hire. That is literally where this team sits.

Exactly how i feel.I live in eagle territory and they have an owner who knows how to hire.Ross is an NFL idiot!

"shamegame13 wrote:

That was said last year too, but our OL is still horrible. Miami is run by morons and that's a problem you can't fix this offseason.

That same **** is said every year but the team still gets no better.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Saying we're not close is foolish. We could easily be a playoff team next season. Tannehill is blossoming and that's the most important thing.

Agree re RT but we could just as easily be sub .500 , and most likely miss the playoffs yet again.

Much much more concerted effort is needed to address the many holes , of course then we still have below average coaching imo . Tough to be overtly positive , though I certainly am about 17 .

"pumpdogs wrote:

Ok answer this question.Do we have more holes to fill going into 2014 season or 2015 season?

Or the same?

"pumpdogs wrote:

That same **** is said every year but the team still gets no better.

Yup, if history has anything to do with it, we are in store for a lame duck season next year.

"dolfan22 wrote:

Agree re RT but we could just as easily be sub .500 , and most likely miss the playoffs yet again.

Much much more concerted effort is needed to address the many holes , of course then we still have below average coaching imo . Tough to be overtly positive , though I certainly am about 17 .

Sure, we could be 5-11 or we could be 11-5. Anything can happen. We are certainly not devoid of talent. This off-season will be important. Hickey needs to make some big moves.

In the end, would I like a new head coach? Sure, but Philbin is here to stay. So I'm going to hope that 2015 is the year we break through the wall.

Faith and Hope. That's my mantra for 2015.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

As the WR corps, O-line and entire defense crumbles around him. Not to mention the ineptitude of the coaching staff.

I think Miami's going to be hard pressed to get back to 8-8 next year.

I will say I wasn't high on Tannehill but that's because it takes me longer to get to where I really like that player.

here is how it is good teams don't pull defeat out of the jaws of victory and that is our problem.

By far and away the Miami Dolphins are and will always be my favorite sports team. They strike me as being similar to one of my other favorite teams, the Cincinnati Reds. The Reds toiled under Dusty Baker and let the prime years of their then stud players, Joey Votto, Jay Bruce and Johnny Cueto slip by, often overpaying the wrong players in the process (Homer Bailey = Mike Wallace, for example). Now, the Reds are starting to trade off their pitching talent yet saying they're close and want to be competitive, but for all intents and purposes, are probably a last place team in 2015 with how the Cubs have retooled. They're relying on Joey Votto and Jay Bruce coming back to All-Star caliber form coming off knee injures (highly unlikely) and their farm system, which is for the most part bereft of talent after a series of trades in Baker's tenure, supplementing the bullpen and the bench. Oh by the way, they still don't have a starting left fielder in the fold.

Miami is similar as you're wasting away what is your best player's prime in Cameron Wake, and I think we're starting to see Brent Grimes go on the slippery slope the past month. You're banking on Branden Albert returning healthy (Votto) and Mike Pouncey going back to being a Pro Bowl caliber center (Bruce) while the rest of the defense is basically a bunch of bad to mediocre players with the exception of perhaps Reshad Jones and Jelani Jenkins. Free agency and the Draft (the farm system essentially) aren't going to supplement you enough to be competitive in 2015, and by the time you start to get there and pay large sums to Tannehill and Pouncey, your best player on defense is probably going to be winding down. I think this team essentially needs to be blown up and built around guys like Tannehill, like Lamar Miller, like Jones and Jenkins, but because people see 8-8, they assume they're "close" when in reality, I think both the Dolphins and the Reds are close to collapse than success.

My hope is that Garfinkel, Marino and Tannenbaum are able to get Ross to realize this before it's too late and you're stuck with a handful of guys being paid large sums and you're not able to replace a Cameron Wake, a Brent Grimes, retool the receiving corps and the interior of the D-line. All your money is going to be tied up into Tannehill, Pouncey, Miller, Jones, Jenkins, etc. while the rest rots away.

Compounding this issues is Ross' insistence on keeping Joe Philbin, a coach who cannot handle outspoken/sometimes troubled or trouble-making players (Bush, Dansby, Davis, Incognito, Long, Marshall, Martin, Smith, and presumably Mike Wallace), who makes bad hires and was damn near willing to fall on the sword for those hires, and fails to adapt in-game and in-season, you're going to be left with a mess.

You can get away with SOME of that when you've got a Brady, Manning or Rodgers at QB and while Tannehill is improving, I don't think he's going to hit that level any time soon if it all.