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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by dolfan06, Sep 21, 2008.
was started here in arkansas by Houston Nutt. the pats didn't know how to stop it
I'm sure in the very long history of football someone lined the running back in the quaterback position before....i doubt highly it was invented at arkansas.....sorry
It wasn't invented at Arkansas.
he said "started" I said "invented" close enough......
Well the wild hog did start at Arkansas, lol, but it is the same as the wildcat offense which I don't think was invented at Arkansas.
The direct snap can be very tricky to run.
Behind the scenes there was some serious game planning going on this week.
Good ol' Bill got schooled.
Good job Henning.
Yes, it came from Harrison HS, in Harrison, AR. It was brought to the Hogs by Lee's predecessor at OC for the Razorbacks.
Sorry, wrong info: It was brought to the Hogs by Gus Malzahn, now the OC at Uof Tulsa, when he was the Hogs OC. He came to the Razorbacks after being the OC at Springdale(AR) HS for a few years. He was the predecessor of Lee at U of Arkansas.
Ohio St ran it with Ginn in his years at OSU.
You know we were desperate for a win when parts of the game finds its way into the Lounge.
It's an old offense. Tom Jackson was talking about people running it against UofL when he went their and Lee Corso talking about how to defend against it back in the day. Arkansas, or the HS coach they got to be their OC didnt invent it. They just used it.
the direct snap to a running back has been done before, the single wing has been done before. but both at the same time with the option to run or throw was done first at Arkansas.
please get your facts straight, i live 1/2 hour from U of A in fayetteville, i know!
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Yeah, and I invented the orgasm.
but in the 50's version they used one back. this offense uses two backs and can be snapped to either one.
i didn't say invented, i said "started". Lee brought it out of moth balls, inserted another back and called it the "wild hog" instead of "wildcat"
the 'WILD HOG" was started in arkansas, SORRY!
maybe the NAME- "wild hog"
but not the formation itself....
comon man....thats like saying the dolphins started the 2 back system....because we are dolphin fans....this game has been around a long time, it is foolish to think that this was started in arkansas not that long ago....
and my highschool coach started the wing-T offense....
the single wing with 2 backs WAS started in arkansas, i've got an email to the editor in kansas we''ll know for sure in a day or two.
name or otherwise the dolphins copied the razorbacks. i don't have any problem with somebody having another opinion than mine, as long as they have one and just don't try to discredit mine. as of now i'll just let it go. PEACE OUT FRIEND!
your statement is not one of opinion....you are claiming that this formation/style of offense was STARTED at arkansas.....i say that in this long history of football i find it hard to believe that this formation was STARTED at arkansas a few years ago......
dont take it personal dood
He may have added to it like Walsh did with the WCO.
this is correct, the single wing is an old offense, arkansas just added a back.
you added a back so you "started it" ???
that's like saying sense you added chocolate chips to the mix you "started" cookies.........
I think I understand what dolfan06 is saying. The original single-wing offense that Pop Warner came up with did not feature the extra back. With the addition of the back, the scheme/formation is its own. For example, Don Coryell's offense was originally the WCO. Paul Brown then add his own stuff to it and then it eventually ended up with Bill Walsh. Walsh added his stuff which was then known as the WCO while Coryell's offense is known as "Air Coryell." Basically, he's saying that Arkansas started the "Wildhog" offense while Pop Warner invented the single-wing.
I don't understand why it is so important to fight about this. Arkansas figured out a way to make an obsolete play relevant again. They brought it back into use, what is so hard about giving them the credit? The Miami Dolphins Staff does, why can't we?
bringing it back to use.....isnt starting it.....just saying
no, its like saying, "the wildcat" offense is in the books, David Lee took it out and added a back and called it "the wild hog". so you see it, it is different.
agree to disagree bro
A lot more teams are starting to use the wild hog. UCLA used it today and that's not something you see out of Norm Chow's playbook (this time they used a WR). So teams are picking it up with defenses getting caught off guard.
no, if i added chocolate, i made chocolate chip cookies which are different from peanut butter cookies. both are a cookie, yet different. "the wildhog" is different from "the wildcat".