The Walking Dead - Season 5

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Plus they don't have the budget for it IMO.

Yep, which is cool. It's not cheap to make dilapidated sets that are Eve changing, zombie makeup, blood, guts, etc. On top of gun shots (fake), explosions, etc.

The CDC explosion in season 1 was one of the worst I've seen on TV lol.

"daphins wrote:

Yep, which is cool. It's not cheap to make dilapidated sets that are Eve changing, zombie makeup, blood, guts, etc. On top of gun shots (fake), explosions, etc.

The CDC explosion in season 1 was one of the worst I've seen on TV lol.

I went back and re-watched the series earlier this year and that season 1 looked super cheap. They've come a long ways IMO.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

I went back and re-watched the series earlier this year and that season 1 looked super cheap. They've come a long ways IMO.

They manage their budget better. AMC is too cheap/poor to foot a bigger budget despite the ratings. The biggest reason why Frank Darabount was fired and why most seasons are specifically locked down to one area (farm, prison, etc...). I like how they're moving around now. We'll see how far that goes in the future.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

I went back and re-watched the series earlier this year and that season 1 looked super cheap. They've come a long ways IMO.

so are you suggesting that anyone who gave up on the show during season 2 should push through it?

"ToddPhin wrote:

so are you suggesting that anyone who gave up on the show during season 2 should push through it?

I think so, yes.

"ToddPhin wrote:

so are you suggesting that anyone who gave up on the show during season 2 should push through it?

Probably not...

The first half of season 3 is really good. The second half is sloooow. Much like Season 2. Only two standout episodes (Clear, This Sorrowful life) and a really disappointing finale. A bait and switch IMO. Season 4 is the opposite. Starts out slow, gets better. Season 5 has been very good, aside from one episode, which featured a character so terrible, her own "sister" doesn't give a **** about her.

Given what I know about your taste in TV shows (which is pretty good, IMO), I can't recommend it for you. There are only a few characters that are really interesting, most are somewhat one dimensional and fill a cliched role. Think of TWD as a Michael Bay film. It's not terribly deep, but there are cool moments, and occasionally, everything comes together to be really satisfying.

Other times, you're better off not thinking because the characterization, motivation, etc... feels incomplete. Probably because there are way too many episodes (16) per year. This show would do well to trim the fat and combine various characters together and streamline stories to about 10-12 episodes. Season 3 is a great example. First 8 episodes were strong. The next 8 episodes, only two rose to that level. I do like the EP/Showrunner Scott Gimble though. I think he's been an improvement. The episodes he writes are by far the best on the series, outside of the pilot. And he has actually made Walkers a viable threat again.

Seasons 3-4 (and 5 so far) are better than season 2. But if you start watching again, don't expect a completely different show.

"ToddPhin wrote:

so are you suggesting that anyone who gave up on the show during season 2 should push through it?

I'd say no. If you're not interested enough after the first 1.5 seasons, then it's not worth your time.

I've had friends that skipped season 2/3 and just started watching season 4. Just read the spoilers online and do that if you're that interested.

There's no way that van would have landed on its wheels. But I do like that they have gone into the city. Sure the special effects aren't the greatest, but I agree that they're better than when the show first started. Their effects' team is bigger, the budget has gone up no doubt. But if you're watching this show for the effects, you need to go watch something else.

Seems a major theme in the show this season is comparing the characters now to what they were at the start of the zombie apocalypse.

So they go from the Termites to the Hospitalites.

Noah is the guy with Darryl at the end of Episode 3 and Rick and Crew head back into Atlanta to save Beth and Carol.

Predictable script. What's not predictable is how they do it and how the main group and Abraham's Group re-unite. I suspect we won't see the group together until the second half of the season.

I'm curious how Morgan fits into this as he's following the Termite signs but if Rick's group goes into Altanta next episode I doubt they'd feel the need to return to that wooded area near Terminus.

I would hope we'd see Morgan again before the mid-season break.

"DolPhinPhan7 wrote:

So they go from the Termites to the Hospitalites.

Noah is the guy with Darryl at the end of Episode 3 and Rick and Crew head back into Atlanta to save Beth and Carol.

Predictable script. What's not predictable is how they do it and how the main group and Abraham's Group re-unite. I suspect we won't see the group together until the second half of the season.

I'm curious how Morgan fits into this as he's following the Termite signs but if Rick's group goes into Altanta next episode I doubt they'd feel the need to return to that wooded area near Terminus.

I would hope we'd see Morgan again before the mid-season break.

I doubt they would risk the lives of the entire group by sending everyone to Atlanta, they'll probably leave people like Carl, Judith, Father Gabriel, Tyreese, etc at the church.

Wouldn't be surprised if we seen Morgan at the mid-season finale... but also wouldn't be surprised if it was just a tease to get people talking.

"Paul 13 wrote:

There's no way that van would have landed on its wheels. But I do like that they have gone into the city. Sure the special effects aren't the greatest, but I agree that they're better than when the show first started. Their effects' team is bigger, the budget has gone up no doubt. But if you're watching this show for the effects, you need to go watch something else.

Seems a major theme in the show this season is comparing the characters now to what they were at the start of the zombie apocalypse.

yeah, landing on its wheels was a bit silly, especially since the injury to Carol, caused by the seat belt, would correspond better to landing on it's front end.
the zombies in the sleeping bags was amusing.

"Paul 13 wrote:

There's no way that van would have landed on its wheels. But I do like that they have gone into the city. Sure the special effects aren't the greatest, but I agree that they're better than when the show first started. Their effects' team is bigger, the budget has gone up no doubt. But if you're watching this show for the effects, you need to go watch something else.

Seems a major theme in the show this season is comparing the characters now to what they were at the start of the zombie apocalypse.

yeah, landing on its wheels was a bit silly, especially since the injury to Carol, caused by the seat belt, would correspond better to landing on it's front end.
the zombies in the sleeping bags was amusing.

it's all setup for next week and the mid season finale... Stupid Sasha...

"Paul 13 wrote:

it's all setup for next week and the mid season finale... Stupid Sasha...

I didn't really get that. He seemed like a cool dude. And Noah vouched for him. I guess if he were really a "bad guy" he could have hurt Sasha more once she was on the ground. Maybe he knew he was dead if the trade went through? Those other cops would of ratted him out maybe?

They should let Gabriel die in the woods. I'm tired of him.

"Clark Kent wrote:

I didn't really get that. He seemed like a cool dude. And Noah vouched for him. I guess if he were really a "bad guy" he could have hurt Sasha more once she was on the ground. Maybe he knew he was dead if the trade went through? Those other cops would of ratted him out maybe?

maybe... or maybe Noah is covering his bases. nothing ever goes as planned that's for sure.

anyone notice that the new background melody in the new season is almost the same as the background melody in the Last of Us video game? sounds like they slightly altered it.

Not sad/10

at first I was a little surprised... but then not so much.

Anybody catch after the credits?

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I did. Looks like someone is going to look for Rick and the crew.

I wasn't sad about Beth, but then my wife tells me she is the one person who had hope and a positive attitude.

yeah we saw Morgan again. Makes me wonder how much time has passed between our regular cast leaving the church and Morgan seeing it. There were some clues... the rabbit's foot, bullet (and I forget the third thing). There's some symbolism there from his prior episodes I'm assuming. Although he found the map to Washington DC where he now thinks Rick is headed. Morgan looks at peace though (shushing that walker before he knifes it)... which is good.

I get the feeling that he is going to "save" Rick, as I think Rick has been "out here too long."

Great episode last night, imo.

Beth almost always had the smallest role as a regular character since she got introduced in Season 2, so it wasn't the end of the world. I'm guessing Morgan isn't a 'Section 8' anymore like he was a couple seasons ago when Rick found him holed up.

I've liked this season so far, better than the last one. Gotta wait 3 months now to finish it.

A bit of a spoiler.

That entire Hospital storyline seems like a plot device to finally get the group to leave Georgia. Eugene was lying but his goal still was to go to the DC area. That's where the group needs to go now.