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The Unofficial Thread to Discuss Official Trades

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Paul 13, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I might be interested if FA doesn't work out for me.:up:
     
  2. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    No one wants to pay the the price but I bet if he hit free agency he would have alot of interest. The guy is good and you should not think of him as a hole in your defense.
     
  3. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    eagles got a great deal for slaton. slaton + westbrook = :omg:
     
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  4. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Sub Pending Luxury Box

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    Houston and I had been working a deal for Trent Cole for 2 weeks.

    Personally, I think I got fleeced if you look at the trade in a vacuum. trading a young defensive end and 2 picks, including a 2nd rounder is NOT a good deal IMO. Offensive players are WAY overvalued in this league and because of that I had to overpay for Slaton.

    If I was a real GM and someone phoned me wanting a 2nd rounder, a 5th rounder and a young Pro Bowl defensive end for a 2nd year running back (albeit a good running back) I would tell them to commit themselves to an insane asylum.

    The only way this deal works for me is if I can trade Bryan Westbrook so I can lower my cap number and get another day one pick.
     
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  5. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I think it was a pretty fair trade on both sides. Trent Cole is a Top 10 DE in the league (Pro Bowler) and will match up great on the strong side opposite Mario Williams. I think Cole doesn't get the credit he deserves here because he isn't in our Divison or Conference. Cole is only 26 years old and is entering his Prime, but has been extremely consistant the the last 3 years. In those 3 years, he is averaging aout 70 Tackles and 9.8 sacks a year. With a DL consistant of:
    Trent Cole Amobi Okoye Shaun Rogers Mario Williams

    Watch out!!!

    As far as losing Steve Slaton... Yeah, it is going to hurt, but I will be able to get a solid back-up for Larry Johnson in the mid rounds (probably 3rd). This HB class is has a lot of depth and I should be able to find my own Tashard Choice, Kevin Smith, Jamaal Charles, Tim Hightower, or Tashard Choice; all HBs taken in the 3rd round or later. Well, that is unless Gish swoops in and picks Jamaal Charles in the 1st again :up:.
     
  6. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    burn in hell.
     
  7. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Oh come on Gish, you know we love you :up:
     
  8. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    is that why you refuse to trade with me?
     
  9. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I fear you as well. You always do soo well on your trades I don't want to risk getting the short end of the stick against you.

    I am trying to copy your process and trading ideas... Your Yoda, I am young Skywalker. :knucks:
     
  10. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    well sometimes skywalker should trade yoda a 2nd round pick.
     
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  11. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I have three 2nd round picks now... which one you want? lol
     
  12. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Nice trade Houston... You've had quite a few nice trades. Your front 7 is nasty... Adding another talented DE like Cole is big.
     
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  13. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    So the Eagles are going to get the #21 pick they started with :lol:
     
  14. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Thank you very much, my friend! :knucks:
     
  15. unifiedtheory

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    LOL! Yah, when I looked back on how everything turned out I did a lot of sideways movement.

    With that said of course...

    I got younger and cheaper at running back.

    My defensive line is basically the same (although I do think Patrick Kerney is an upgrade at left end if I can get a pass rusher to replace Cole).

    I added Tony Gonzalez which is a massive upgrade on LJ Smith.

    My O-line is a bit of a mess right now but if I can sign a free agent or two and make a trade I'm working on I could be alright.

    I think it turned out alright....pending the draft.
     
  16. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    There have been 2 huge trades lately... I would love to get everyones opinions!

    I think the Tuck and DeSean Jackson deal was pretty fair on both sides. The Giants still have 2 solid DE's in Mathias Kiwanuka and Osi and added another solid young WR. They also moved up in the 1st round.

    The Eagles on the other hand now have two great DE's in Patrick Kerney and Justin Tuck. They should be able to get a WR with pick #47 to replace Jackson.

    Great overall trade!

    I'd also like to hear what people think about my trade for Thomas Davis and Steve Smith : )
     
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  17. unifiedtheory

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    I think both trades work for both teams.

    Like I said to PSG (the Giants GM) making trades is a pleasure when both parties are negotiating fairly and not trying to fleece the other guy.

    Everyone wants to "win" a trade but I think the best trades and the ones that actually get done 99% of the time are the ones where both teams feel they "won" the trade.

    If you make a trade and feel like you came out better then you went in then you won it regardless of other peoples opinions. As well as that, every trade looks different when you look at the entire picture and don't look at a single deal in a vacuum.

    I know some of the deal I have made look kind of odd when you look at them as just THAT trade but I had a process (Sabanism) that I was trying to do and it all came together almost perfectly.
     
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  18. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I think this is a good trade for both of us. I think we both got what we wanted and like you said, it wasn't like pulling teeth.
     
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  19. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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  21. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    How'd I do?

     
  22. alen1

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    IMO, very good. I find Cromartie overrated and you got nice additions at OLB and DE as well as picks. You did better than I thought you would to be honest. I wouldn't have given you more than a 3rd or fourth for AC.
     
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  23. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Thanks... He had originally included Anthony Henry in the deal, but I didn't have a use for him to be honest... so he swapped him out for a fourth round pick. His offer was certainly a good one... so good that I had to stop the auction short and risk losing a better offer. But I didn't want to risk losing his offer either.

    Cromartie is good, but so are Jammer and Cason. I could certainly part with him.... and continue my master plan. :shifty:
     
  24. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Henry can play FS too but I don't know if you need that. In the end though, I think it was a good deal.

    :lol:
     
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  25. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    You did pretty well considering you had spare CB's. Picks were definitely a great deal.
     
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  26. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    The Cincinnati Bengals have acquired the #1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft from the Detroit Lions.

    A press conference is expected later tonight.
     
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  27. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    So the Bungholes were THAT worried about Detroit taking their guy?
     
  28. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Actually ... we just had too many picks and were looking to move up. :yes:

    Now we don't have to worry about Straz taking our guy. :shifty:
     
  29. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    No.
     
  30. Fin-Omenal

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    I wouldve rather been on YOUR side of that deal, well done.
     
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  31. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    and with the first pick in the 2009 GM League Draft.....the Bengals select........Samphin.
     
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  32. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Speaking of your side...
     
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  33. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    I was happy with what I got since I HAD to trade him for cap reasons, I think the Bears did well also.
     
  34. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    :lol: wow what a horrible move to gain the number 1 draft pick. At least you guys win the Aaron Curry sweepstakes. I'm so glad I dropped out because honestly if Lions didn't take Curry I was.
     
  35. alen1

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    Hey laugh all you want, we are in the spot that we want to be and I don't give a damn if you like it or not. :up:

    And why is everyone under the assumption that we take Aaron Curry? Is it that hard to look at our roster to see that we have made trades for four linebackers that we like and plan on starting? Jesus.
     
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  36. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    lol so you move up to take a Linemen which btw is a very deep class. I'm sure with 2 of those 1st rounders you could have got 2 great Linemen or what ever need its just a bad move IMO.

    I don't understand the move but good for Detroit at least they understand they cant be the best right away.

    Also I say Curry because he is head and shoulders the best player in the draft. So you move up to take Baylor's Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe.
     
  37. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I don't think you'll take Curry. I know you're taking K Graham Gano 1st overall...:shifty:
     
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  38. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Smokescreen Lingo...
     
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  39. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    I am just glad that Reggie Wayne is out of my division and conference! Woo Hooo
     
  40. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    We know that its a deep class. We are well aware of it. We still have those two first rounders. We'll get the guy we want.

    Ok.

    Yes, if that's what you want to hear then yes, we did.
     

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