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The Ted Ginn really stinks thread...!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by 54Fins, Oct 25, 2009.

  1. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    should have beat Indy.....no doubt

    and we were the better team today despite the second half collapse
     
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  2. finserg

    finserg Well-Known Member

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    Indy and this game was a disgrace
     
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  3. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    your the only one that thinks so.. The better team wins, not loses
     
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  4. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    34 year old Donald Driver would easily be the #1 WR on the Dolphins. :lol:

    Ted Ginn. Jr is as good as gone next season. Too bad we couldn't get Rick Spielman to bite before the trade deadline...

    This is exactly 2 games Ted Ginn, Jr has lost for us this season against the two likely Super Bowl contenders. (Colts and Saints)

    Does anyone REALLY think that he will become our go-to-guy? Ever???

    I am still glad we didn't trade for Bowe. As good as some think he is, I would rather roll the dice having extra draft picks, namely our 2nd rounder+ we saved by not trading, when the offseason rolls around.

    Maybe we see someone we REALLY like in the first round of the draft and we need that 2nd rounder as ammo to move up to get him? Or we just sit tight and another Sean Smith (but the safety version :lol:) falls to our #2 we still own?

    Draft picks are MUCH more valuable than gold when draft day approaches...
     
  5. High Definition

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    Ginn and Bess both suck.
     
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  6. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Parcells should realize by now that this team needs a#1 WR.
     
  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Still don't think it's fair to hang the loss on Ginn.
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  8. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    3, dont forget the back to back 3rd down drops against San diego in the 4th he had
     
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  9. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think anyone is blaming him for the loss. Most people are just stating their displeasure with his in consistent play, his obvious efforts to avoide contact at all costs, and his inability to CATCH the football.
     
  10. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    You leave Bess out of this.
    He did nothing but play well.
     
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  11. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    If we are going to blame Ted Ginn then you had better get out your pencil and paper cause Teddy's name won't be the only one on there.

    Tell me again just how many sacks our 55 million dollar oline gave up? Henne goes back to staring down his WO's! Joey the mouth, again! where were you today Joey? And as for dropped balls just where were your sticky hands Mr. Bess? There is plenty of blame to go around if thats the game you want to play.

    Face it, we got our butts handed to us by a MUCH BETTER team today, deal with it and quit crying in your milk. At the very least we know just how much we have to improve to get to where the Saints are now and Parcels was right, we are better but we aren't good YET!! Playing the blame game is for losers. AND WE ARE NOT LOSERS!

    I love our team and was horse at half time but could see the writing on the wall when Brees drove them down for a TD just before the half.

    WE played a class team out there guys, PLEASE, don't turn our great effort into less than what it was, my hat is off to all of our team!:up:

    We are on the right road and have a ways to go but lets go with class, ok?!:up::wink2:

    P.S. The ribs were outstanding!!! At least something came out right.
     
  12. Soundwave

    Soundwave Phins Sympathizer..

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    Ginn refuses to compete for the ball.

    he's soft.
     
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  13. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    There's two guys in this thread hanging this loss, and two or three others on Ginn.

    And the guy that said that Bess played well today...what game were you watching?
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  14. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Whats to defend? He pretty much layed the golden egg today!!

    I'm down with suiting up someone else in his family to see how they do because he's just not getting it..
     
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  15. Ozzy

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    Yeah many things went wrong in the second half and Ginn is only a part of it but I'm getting tired of seeing his inconsistant play and I was a huge supporter of him
     
  16. High Definition

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    Told you that we'd regret passing up on Hakeem Nicks. I like Vontae a lot and I'm confident that he'll be at least a solid starter, but Nicks would have solved a MAJOR problem present and future.
     
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  17. SICK

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    expecially considering we still got sean smith.....not getting a WR early stings more.

    but. with will allen out, iam glad we got both those kids......speed up their growth process
     
  18. High Definition

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    That fumble of his got the party started for the comeback. Otherwise, you're looking at 31-3, 27-3, or even 24-3 at the half.

    If Ginn can get hammered for a DROPPED PASS then Bess should be hammered for a TURNOVER.
     
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  19. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    I'm more upset watching Pattrick Willis become one of the best Lb'ers in the league...
     
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  20. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    The difference...

    Bess continuously makes plays and is consistent. He doesnt drop very many of them. Hes not starting material, at the moment, obviously, but that doesnt mena he sucks. Bess has shown he has major upside. Ginn? So far, he has fabulously underachieved at this level, and that is an understatement.

    Bess has a future here, as a role player. Ginn cant seem to find a role. Hes a square peg in a round hole on this team.
     
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  21. eric

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    i want to see turner in the next game.
    surely anyone good enough to even warrant a draft pick ought to be able to do more for us then ginn.

    the kid cant cut it. only way i see him on this team next year is if no other team is willing to give us enough to trade him.

    hes fast. i get it. who cares. fast doesnt mean a thing if you dont catch the ball or make people miss tackles.

    tedd ginn doesnt have the brains, the hands, the guts or the heart to be a good receiver. i dont give a damn who he can outrun.

    i dont see how turner hasnt seen the field yet. whats the story on this kid? is ginn better in practice or something? what did we draft this guy for? has he even been activated for a game yet? i dont care if he sucks. start him in ginns place for at least the next game. give him a shot and give ginn something to think about.
     
  22. Gitrdone

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    So going by this, we should BOO Bell and Wilson off the field also.
     
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  23. Gitrdone

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    Not today, i think he was holding hands with Ginn and got butter all over them also.
     
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  24. Xeticus

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    I was done with Ginn at the beginning of the season. He's had some flashes thus year where you think he might be maturing and then he has games like this.

    I've thought for a couple of weeks that Hartline can replace Ginn. Hartline is much bigger, a little slower and with much better hands. Also he's much smarter. Where as Ginn has an admitted learning disability Hartline has an off the charts football IQ and the team has said in interviews that Hartline has mastered all 3 wide receiver positions and I think I recall all the special teams ones as well.

    Ginn's speed and potential don't make up for the dropped balls, the inconsistency and the mental errors. I think even without his mistakes we had a good chance of losing today. But I still swear up and down that his errors cost us the Colts game.

    I don't trust the kid to catch the ball. i'd use him as a returner and on special plays like reverses. He's a special teamer, he's not an nfl caliber receiver. Hopefully the trifecta will see it that way.


    The following is a quote from Armando at the Miami Herald. (I know, just read it anyway.)

    Let me start with the receivers. Guys, it is time to bench Ted Ginn Jr. I'm not saying cut the kid. I'm not saying punish him in any way. It's not his fault he's not up to answering the call most of the time as he drops key passes, or plays scared, or fails to make plays any good receiver would make.

    I'm saying the experiment needs to end.

    Brian Hartline is today already a more productive receiver. Think about it. Ginn had eight passes thrown his way Sunday. He caught two for 16 yards. Hartline had five passes thrown to him. He caught three for 94 yards. Ginn is faster. But Hartline is better. Give the better receiver more plays and let the faster receiver go return kicks or something.


    It's obvious to everyone I think. Ginn is a mistake and it's time to stop trying to salvage something for that first round pick. Let's move on already.
     
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  25. Bpk

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    This post is made even better by the fact that under your Member Name it says "One Classy Guy"
     
  26. Bpk

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    If I were Ted ginn's coach I would hit the SNOT out of him in practice til he begged to quit the team...because he'd either GET OVER that fear, or it'd break him.

    Either way, we'd be able to progress and move on.

    He has fear... make him confront it.

    Let the defense practice their hitting on him once a week. I am not even kidding. Stupid idea? Maybe, but it's a last straw attempt to get this kid to man up or weed him out of this platoon.
     
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  27. Bpk

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    By the way... now we see why Chad Pennington 'never seemed to throw to Ginn'!?!?

    -sigh- I feel bad for the kid. But, this is why you don;t draft track stars when you can get receivers.

    Look at Hey-Bey versus Crabtree. Crab has already surpassed Hey-Bey's season after ONE game.
     
  28. texanphinatic

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    Its ok to draft track starts, provided they also want to play football. See Harvin, Percy. He is everything we hoped Ted would be. Dangerous wideout - though hes not a #1, hes a huge threat anytime hes on the field, and a special team return monster.

    Remember how excited Cam was to tell us how great Ginn would be returning kicks/punts, let alone the WR aspect. Nothing ... You could have PAID Mueller and Cam to have a worst draft almost.
     
  29. BuckeyeKing

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    The difference between Harvin and Ginn other than physical appearance is toughness and playing aggressive. Also Harvin is much better in space than Ginn.
     
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  30. adamprez2003

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    If the season were over today, I would have no problem replacing Ginn, Fasano and Bess. The only two people that I trust right now are Camarillo and Hartline. Ive defended Ginn for his entire career but today's game really disappointed the hell out of me. We had to wait for you to learn how to beat press coverage the first year. Then we had to wait for you to learn how run proper routes last year. Now we have to wait for you to learn how to catch? Ginn is becoming just another track star failure. Its too early to completely write him off but its becoming increasingly difficult to have any faith in him. He's being given ervy opportunity to become the go to guy in the passing game and he's blowing it. He's not going to get many more opportunities
     
  31. k-bayfinfan

    k-bayfinfan Bikini Inspector

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    Maybe we can covert ginn into #28's personal tackling dummy so that that non tackling FA waste can stop missing tackles that cost us games!
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  32. Skeet84

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    Every WR has bad games and its hard when they had Sharper over him most of the game with a CB. Besides he was not the reason we lost. Blame him if you want but he is a #2 playing a number #1. He needs a #1 on this team but is still our most dangerous weapon in passing game
     
  33. k-bayfinfan

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    Dude bess had a bad game yes I agree. However you fail to realize that bess is a chain mover for us and he's also a good open field blocker. Didn't show in this game. The fumble wasn't retuned for a TD. We had our chances to prevent them from scoring before the half. He may not be physically gifted as some of the other receivers but the guy has lots of heart and fights and claws for yards for the other guys fighting and clawing for him. Unlike TGJr.


    And on a related subject I think gibril wilsons sux and deserves blame for this loss right along with ginn.
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  34. CANEPHINS

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    Everything I need to know about Ginn is shown right here....

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  35. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I'm with you on that. I supported him for the last time after yesterday.

    Hartline has some great hands. I'd rather start him. What's the worse that could happen? Let's see what the rook has!!


    :up:
     
  36. opfinistic

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    I'm not gonna throw more **** on the pile, but I am disappointed in Ginn so far this season. It seems like whenever a crucial pass is throw his way he ends up dropping it. I hope he can work on his hands and step up as we approach the 2nd half of the season, and that he doesn't end up being Chris Chambers v2.0; a WR that never seemed to live up to his potential.
     
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  37. Silverphin

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    This whole thread is one big crap fest IMO. But what do I know?
     
  38. Big E

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    Being slightly better than mediocre, doesn't make him good sorry.
     
  39. SeanP

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    You know, I don't hate the guy by any means. He suits up for our team, and as a fan I can't justifiably HATE him, it's not in me.

    However, I am really disappointed in his play. If he can't catch those important balls (especially that one that hit him just below the numbers, come on, all he had to do was come up a foot and it would have been on the chest), then he's not of any use to us.

    I advocated he's probably a better #2 guy, as a lot of other people did. But when it's a matter of catching the balls (not a matter of getting open), it's almost entirely on him. Maybe the pass was a bit fast, I don't know, but that's still 90% on him to catch it. NFL Receivers make those catches.

    Ginn did not cost us the game, but he sure as hell did not help us. I'd say he's got these next 2 games to show up, and if he doesn't, we'll be bringing in others to start for him.

    At this point I'd rather see anyone on our squad starting than him. Our own players are causing more dropped/intercepted passes than the defense... something is CLEARLY wrong with that... And don't even get me started on Fasano...
     
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  40. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    I think you are missing the point... Bess is extremely reliable. he had a fumble, yes, it happens (Although his knee was down-but hey, its kharma for his dropped pass in the 1st). All season bess has cuaght just about everything that has been thrown to him, Ginn has dropped just about everything that has been thrown to him. In terms of this game, sure, we can hammer both Bess and Ginn, in terms of the season, Ginn is the only one that deserves a hammering because Bess is 10 times more a reciever than Ginn is.
     
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